MotorWerks 924 1.8t conversion kit

MotorWerks 924 1.8t conversion kit

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MaximusIV

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11 posts

152 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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has anyone had any experience with Motorwerks racing and their 1.8t conversion kits?

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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I have just read up about it on the website. Sounds excellent.

The 1.8T 20 valve engine is a good choice as it was fitted to countless VAG cars. It is very strong and reliable even in standard form with a bit of remapping. I have heard of fully forged engine is running over 500 BHP without too much trouble!

Your thread just caught my eye as I usually track my my 1.8T Octávio vRS running 245 BHP and 310 ftlb of torque. The car weighs 1200 kg.

This is all with a standard engine with just a remap, bigger intake and a larger intercooler.

Are there any cars running this set up in England? That sounds like a really good track day car. After tracking rear wheel drive TVRs for some time it is a bit strange running a front wheel drive car but it is surprisingly quick.

I hope someone responds to this as it would be good to find out some real-world information.

My 1.8T.


rufusgti

2,530 posts

192 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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The various Facebook groups catering for 924/44 often have info on 1.8t conversions. It seems very popular in the US as a kind of budget version of the LS swapped cars.
I can't say the conversion really enthuses me at all, but mainly because I've run battered old mk4 golfs with these engines for ever and although hardy, they're not in any way exciting. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better. In fact if it's a 924 then it could be interesting.

What kind of costs are involved in the swap? I know a guy with a rather nice 924.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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rufusgti said:
The various Facebook groups catering for 924/44 often have info on 1.8t conversions. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better.

In the US, with a relatively cheap, light yank V8, I sort of get it. Otherwise no.


Greedydog

889 posts

195 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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blade7 said:
rufusgti said:
The various Facebook groups catering for 924/44 often have info on 1.8t conversions. Although let's be honest, the original Porsche engines are no better.

In the US, with a relatively cheap, light yank V8, I sort of get it. Otherwise no.

Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.

Huskyman

653 posts

127 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.
The 924 was a mongrel. Designed for VW, abandoned and adopted by Porsche, ftted with a VW engine. So what’s wrong with fitting a more modern VW engine? Nothing.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Huskyman said:
blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.
The 924 was a mongrel. Designed for VW, abandoned and adopted by Porsche, ftted with a VW engine. So what’s wrong with fitting a more modern VW engine? Nothing.
I'm inclined to agree as I've never seen an issue with swapping VW engines into 924/944.

However, I'd not mess about with a 1.8T, I've always liked the idea of doing a VR6 conversation.

The Vr offers a good chunk of torque, adequate hp, plenty of scope to make 300+hp with forced induction and a glorious soundtrack much more fitting of a sports car than the 20vT.

Don't say " because of weight" , I've swapped enough vr cars to say there is feck all difference between it and a 20vt Inc turbo+intercooler+accessories.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Huskyman said:
The 924 was a mongrel. Designed for VW, abandoned and adopted by Porsche, ftted with a VW engine. So what’s wrong with fitting a more modern VW engine? Nothing.
The 924S has got a Porsche engine. The 924 was designed by Porsche, and built for them by Audi in the Neckarsulm plant. Thanks for the skewed history lesson though. Most of the cars that get transplants seem to be baggy old sheds anyway, so no loss really.

rufusgti

2,530 posts

192 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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aka_kerrly said:
Huskyman said:
blade7 said:
Greedydog said:
Why not? At their most potent the originals were turbo 4 cylinders so what's wrong with a lighter, more reliable, more powerful, more modern replacement? It would certainly be preferable to overpowering them with a LSwhatever.
More reliable, more powerful? A mongrel, that's why not.
The 924 was a mongrel. Designed for VW, abandoned and adopted by Porsche, ftted with a VW engine. So what’s wrong with fitting a more modern VW engine? Nothing.
I'm inclined to agree as I've never seen an issue with swapping VW engines into 924/944.

However, I'd not mess about with a 1.8T, I've always liked the idea of doing a VR6 conversation.

The Vr offers a good chunk of torque, adequate hp, plenty of scope to make 300+hp with forced induction and a glorious soundtrack much more fitting of a sports car than the 20vT.

Don't say " because of weight" , I've swapped enough vr cars to say there is feck all difference between it and a 20vt Inc turbo+intercooler+accessories.
Oh I've got no issue with engine swaps. But there's a significant amount of work involved in any swap, I just feel like a 1.8t is.a bit of a bland choice for the effort. But hey, I'm interested in pretty much any modded 944.
I like the Vr6 idea more. Never heard of it done though but would love to see one.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I’m sure the 1.8T is more compact, lighter, extremely robust, reliable and has its own character.

Mine in my track Skoda has loads of torque and power even if it’s mild state of tune and is as smooth as a babies bottom. They really are great engines.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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rufusgti said:
I like the Vr6 idea more. Never heard of it done though but would love to see one.
There are a few out there, 924board, Tipec & Grassroots Motorsport forum have a few good build threads with 924+944s with a selection of engines, Vw 2.0 16v ABFs, Vr6s, Audi 5 cylinder Na and turbo conversions, SBC/LS v8s, a NA 2JZ on throttle bodies..

here is an example of a Vr6,

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=366582



And here is an example of a 20vt build for the OP
http://forums.tipec.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2...