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julian987R said:
Desert Dragon said:
julian987R said:
Desert Dragon said:
Yes and thanks drivetrain will be rebuilt by Protomotive to 350bhp/350ft lbs. Todd can go to 400bhp but thats too much for me. Its rocket ship fast at 400bhp. For me barely manageable at 350bhp TBH.
won't that ruin the character of the car? blade7 said:
Wow ... and given that the 924 Carrera GTS did significantly better than the 930 Turbos' at LeMans ... and the 944 Turbo Cup cars created the single make Carrera Cup series, why did Porsche "can" the front engined cars ?
For me the 944 is a much prettier car than the 968 which in design had a lot of 993 about it. Now to me the 993 looks old ... and the 944 looks so classic ... maybe in another 10 years the roles could reverse but ?
ChrisW. said:
For me the 944 is a much prettier car than the 968 which in design had a lot of 993 about it. Now to me the 993 looks old ... and the 944 looks so classic ... maybe in another 10 years the roles could reverse but ?
I agree, and that's as someone who's gone to buy a 944 three times so far, and not yet made it once... However, its worth noting that the designer of the 968 was the same dude as for the original 924 - Harm Lagaaij. His design philosophy was to reintroduce soft edges a la 911 and 928, and to give the car a look that provided a family resemblance. The 924 had started as a VW design and the more pronounced edges suited that family of cars.Anyway, coming back to the OP, that Glasgow car was for sale when I was looking, back in Jan and, as others have already mentioned, the asking price has dropped significantly. I do like the colour/trim combo, and the pics make it look clean.
blade7 said:
julian987R said:
there was a Turbo SE but it was just a label for the S in the UK. The SE and S are one and the same.
https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-944-turbo-s/
I'd go careful with that silver rose, all 944's are money pits...just some of them just don't yet know it.
AFAIK Porsche UK took it upon themselves to call the Turbo S, a Special Equipment/SE. If some want to get their knickers in a twist over a trivial detail from 30+ years ago, carry on. As an aside I believe the Turbo S was assembled at Stuttgart rather than Neckarsulm, and the story goes that the cars from the Audi plant had better rust proofing. https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-944-turbo-s/
I'd go careful with that silver rose, all 944's are money pits...just some of them just don't yet know it.
I believe Turbo SE was the UK name, Turbo S I think US/Europe (but I believe France was Turbo Cup). Silver Rose of course the colour, used by enthusiasts to differentiate from the rest of the ‘88 Turbo SEs with the same mechanics but with freedom to choose on the colour & trim.
From 1989 all Turbos (note: SE dropped) had the 250 engine and freedom to choose colour, trim, spec etc but did without the special wheels, Koni suspension etc of the ‘88 cars.
Not quite the same league as the Glasgow 944T but thought i would share a link to my old 944T that i have noticed is up for sale, two sales one since I px'd it for my CR.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13204789
It needed a good £10k's worth of work when i let it go and has since had some restoration and new wheels. But knowing just how much was needed, I can't help but think it is still left wanting....but thought I'd share a link.
One thing that always bothered me was after Jaz Porsche did my passenger side seal (that common and big expense job), that the door seal would always collect water - every-time i would open the passenger door it was soaking wet. I told them it must be related, perhaps a drain hole covered up or something but to no avail. Any thoughts on what it might have been?...never got to the bottom of it.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13204789
It needed a good £10k's worth of work when i let it go and has since had some restoration and new wheels. But knowing just how much was needed, I can't help but think it is still left wanting....but thought I'd share a link.
One thing that always bothered me was after Jaz Porsche did my passenger side seal (that common and big expense job), that the door seal would always collect water - every-time i would open the passenger door it was soaking wet. I told them it must be related, perhaps a drain hole covered up or something but to no avail. Any thoughts on what it might have been?...never got to the bottom of it.
ChrisW. said:
That's my understanding also for the 924 ... I'm pretty sure the design of the 944 was Harm and then the 968 was Tony Hatter ...
Of course the 924 Carrera had elements of the 944 design ... Porsche often seem to do that.
From the stuff I’ve got at home, the 924 was indeed a Porsche design for VW, supposed to be a 914 successor, and Harm was the designer.Of course the 924 Carrera had elements of the 944 design ... Porsche often seem to do that.
VW decided in 1975 to quit, and Porsche picked up the design, with all the development having been paid by VW, and got it ready for production by 1976, just ahead of the 928.
Harm left Porsche in 77, and returned in 89 to design the 944 successor, 968.
The 944 was designed under Richard Soderberg and was modelled on the 924 CGT - same width, but slightly shorter.
Desert Dragon said:
Way over priced and looks restored to me. If you want a 944 have look at the mint silver rose going through CCA next week - gorgeous shame it doesn't have sports seats. In the classifieds. The colour is an acquired taste and I'm doing my best not to bid on it 
I popped down to see this yesterday and it was nice. Retrim on the seats obviously didn’t quite match the (original) door cards but otherwise a good car.Hammered for £28.8k vs a guide of £35-40k, which felt like quite a big delta but - in isolation - still feels high for a 944T.
I watched online live. Pretty sure thats £33k in fees? Th exhaust had been welded at the back box which made me wonder what the rest of the exhaust is like and then remember my ownership on other things that these cars need. Looks nice I think a cheap car if it works well without having to spend too much on a recommission. This is the sort of mileage when things do maybe start to go wrong and that cars barely turned a wheel since 15 years so I imagine needs a fair amount of patience and tlc. Lovely looking car.
Desert Dragon said:
I watched online live. Pretty sure thats £33k in fees? Th exhaust had been welded at the back box which made me wonder what the rest of the exhaust is like and then remember my ownership on other things that these cars need. Looks nice I think a cheap car if it works well without having to spend too much on a recommission. This is the sort of mileage when things do maybe start to go wrong and that cars barely turned a wheel since 15 years so I imagine needs a fair amount of patience and tlc. Lovely looking car.
I think £33k with fees is correct, these were 15% so that makes sense.I agree. I think it would throw up a few niggles if you pressed it into regular service.
The ad for the Glasgow car is pretty light on detail but it feels like there must be a story behind it. Looks to be in very good shape - possibly restored by the OPC, as part of their Classic programme?
I rate OPC Glasgow highly. When I lived in Glasgow, I had an early Boxster and used the OPC for parts (and an inspection under the PCGB car clinic). Iain, the service manager, always took time out to talk about the cars and had worked for the brand for a number of years and knew the classics inside out. My 986 probably cost less than the service bill on some of the more modern stuff, but that was never an issue.
I rate OPC Glasgow highly. When I lived in Glasgow, I had an early Boxster and used the OPC for parts (and an inspection under the PCGB car clinic). Iain, the service manager, always took time out to talk about the cars and had worked for the brand for a number of years and knew the classics inside out. My 986 probably cost less than the service bill on some of the more modern stuff, but that was never an issue.
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