Moving to a classic Porsche

Moving to a classic Porsche

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supersport

4,059 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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That 935 rep looks like it ought to be in Condorman, that was a cool scene. But it doesn't look right.

ArrowSC

591 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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mrdemon said:
dugsud said:
To compare a fake Rolex with an RS Rep is ridiculous! Any Porsche 911 that's modified by the current owner(as 911's have always been) is still 100% Porsche.

A fake Rolex however is 0% Rolex!

but can be a 100% swiss movement and still quite expensive :-)

I just don't see the point buying reps when every one laughs at BMW owners for doing it, but Porsche owners are allowed !!

like wise neither go up or are worth any value down the line.

there is a real Porsche for every one £££ and we all know real ones tend to go up in value esp the last 10 years.
reps have not done anything value wise, and you could say are quite good value if you want to drive a "fake" lol

me I would prob jump on the 964 model now the 911S has also gone sky rocket and dragging the 911E and even the basic T with it. but even these have gone up 100% in the last 5 years.
Sorry but I agree your BMW analogy is missing the point. The equivalent would be a 316 owner who stripped the car down and rebuilt it with M3 spec drivetrain, body and chassis mods. There just isn't much point in doing that because a real one isn't that expensive.
As others have pointed out, you can easily recreate a 2.7RS in all but matching original chassis numbers, using all the correct spec parts. Not cheap, but not that hard, and while the person who instigates it isn't likely to recoup their investment, some people see value in the driving experience and the build project itself, not just the selling price. I wouldn't build a RS replica myself but having driven several originals, I can appreciate why others do.
A 964 is a very different drive to an early 911 on mfi

Edited by ArrowSC on Saturday 23 November 08:36

drmark

4,836 posts

186 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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BertBert said:
I think there is a point. I wanted to get the essence of what the 73RS was about without spending RS money. So for me the motor and the "form factor" mattered. So I bought a rep built on a period car with a proper 2.7MFI spec motor. The fact that it had G50 rear wings rather than proper RS ones was a slight annoyance in the beardy pub stakes, but didn't matter. The fact that it had a 2.7 spec engine (albeit cobbled together) on MFI absolutely made the car. Mind you, I think Nick Fulljames might be offended at my reference to cobbled together!
Bert
LOL Bert! That is the first time I have ever seen cobbled and Nick Fulljames in the same sentence.

Pip1968

1,348 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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The three Classic Cars ones linked are lovely and I too have recently wondered about getting one as an additional car. For me it is more about getting back to basics. With more and more electrical utter rubbish appearing on cars it would be nice to have a 'performance' car without a wiring loom as thick as Flo Jo's thighs. Where will it stop with doors and boots being closed for our fat little parents/kids - ???

The BMW 'M' is a poor comparison as most here just put a 'M' badge on but only have the motorsport wheels.

Pip

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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BertBert said:
And your disposable income! biggrin
Ha! Not really - just put all my disposable income into cars!

schaeffs

324 posts

142 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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schaeffs said:
So. Much. Want. cloud9

BertBert

19,037 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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drmark said:
LOL Bert! That is the first time I have ever seen cobbled and Nick Fulljames in the same sentence.
I guess I ought to be specific. When I got it, it was cobbled together, after Nick had his way with it it was a thing of power and beauty. If it was on PH it'd be powerfully built, be a company director and have a goatee!
Bert

squirejo

794 posts

243 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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type-r said:
I have never driven or even been in a classic Porsche - I am just wondering what is the best way to learn a bit more about living with one and I would be interested to hear of has anyone who has moved from a modern 911 to an old school one (I am sure there are quite a few!) and what your experience was like!
The following car and company featured in a recent Porsche specialist magazine and the thrust of the article was exactly in answer to this question. This will only give you the "real classic" experience, with backdated becoming more refined, dependent on their (newer) base. I would think relative to the purchase costs this would be a very worthwhile exercise.

http://www.greatescapecars.co.uk/cars-porsche928-p...

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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You need to look very closely at the fit and finish of these cars. I have seen one of the cars on the list close and it ain't pretty.

type-r

Original Poster:

14,065 posts

213 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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graemel said:
Your best bet is to buy the best rot free 3.2 Carrera Super Sport you can find. Basically a 930 turbo but with a normally aspirated 3.2 engine. Keeping the all steel body and without a cage you'll get it to around the 1200kg mark.
Cheers, will look into that!


squirejo said:
The following car and company featured in a recent Porsche specialist magazine and the thrust of the article was exactly in answer to this question. This will only give you the "real classic" experience, with backdated becoming more refined, dependent on their (newer) base. I would think relative to the purchase costs this would be a very worthwhile exercise.

http://www.greatescapecars.co.uk/cars-porsche928-p...
Looks like a great way to start off. At least then I will know if the experience of driving is as good as the emotional (visual) appeal.

epoch911

349 posts

209 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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type-r said:
I have never driven or even been in a classic Porsche - I am just wondering what is the best way to learn a bit more about living with one and I would be interested to hear of has anyone who has moved from a modern 911 to an old school one (I am sure there are quite a few!) and what your experience was like!
Whereabouts in the UK are you? You'd be more than welcome to come out in mine - am based in Somerset
Ant

squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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OP

have a look at my car ...lots of details on this link / DDK ..happy to chat offline whether you are interested in mine specifically or not; I can share some knowledge gained from doing more or less what you suggested. cheers

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=46339

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squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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Du1point8 said:
What do the folks think of these?

Not sure on this one but good starting point:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-911-Carrera-RS-2...

just something about these (935):
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C300248

top end IROC RSR rep:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C445885

nice RS replica
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C421379

Just not quite there yet, alleged RS rep:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C323139
Love the IROC RSR rep.

Rutlandracing

226 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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I'm nearly finished on building this.....



It's a '72 car that had been RS'd - nasty fibreglass wings, bonnet, lid. The engine and gearbox were great (915 and a 3.0 litre engine) and the body was relatively rot free but it has cost a fortune to build. The car stands me £60k......


Rutlandracing

226 posts

166 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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I forgot to add - it's now all steel - new wings, bonnet and lid (frighteningly expensive, all from Porsche). Back to bare metal respray, all the chrome redone, lightweight interior, 300kph speedo and 10k rev gauges (I'm a pedant), car has been rewired throughout, fuch's polished and refurbed, caged, runs weber carbs, electric heated front screen, stainless exhaust and no heater - sounds lovely!

ArrowSC

591 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Rutlandracing said:
Isounds lovely!
Looks stunning too