Interesting modified 911's

Interesting modified 911's

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IMI A

6,885 posts

146 months

Sunday 8th December 2013
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I like all of these cars and almost bought the mint green 964 after speaking to its previous owner but in the end thought it was a bit OTT with light weight fly wheel and bucket seats for casual sunday drives in the Summer. What I find interesting is that I've seen all of these cars come up for sale 2-3 times in the last few years - none of the owners seem to have bonded with them. I wonder why because on the face of it they all look fantastic

g7jhp

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Sunday 8th December 2013
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pete a

3,237 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2013
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g7jhp said:
I saw that earlier and think it looks great, at 33k is that good value or overpriced in people's opinion.

g7jhp

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Monday 9th December 2013
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pete a said:
g7jhp said:
I saw that earlier and think it looks great, at 33k is that good value or overpriced in people's opinion.
Depends what you're looking for. If you want a viper green car which is backdated and has an RS look (and it checks out on inspection) then it would probably be a good buy. If you want a nice SC it's expensive.



dank

1,013 posts

197 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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mY 996 Turbo was in for it's MOT at JZM last week and I have to say those two cars above look amazing, and very very clean in the metal, the mint green one is very in your face though!


marky911

3,706 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Neither fish nor fowl so all overpriced.

You can choose from any number of proper factory models for the figures listed above.
Those cars all equal headaches come resale time. If you know you'll keep one forever then fine but things change.

I like the 964 but not at GT3 money, that's why I bought a GT3 instead. tongue out

lotus211

2,961 posts

130 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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this months Total 911 has a Honey of an orange 911t Gruppe styley as a feature car. very cool

ArrowSC

591 posts

172 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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marky911 said:
Neither fish nor fowl so all overpriced.
You can choose from any number of proper factory models for the figures listed above.
True, but the OP shows you can also have something more interesting and bespoke.

g7jhp

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Monday 9th December 2013
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ArrowSC said:
marky911 said:
Neither fish nor fowl so all overpriced.
You can choose from any number of proper factory models for the figures listed above.
True, but the OP shows you can also have something more interesting and bespoke.
I'd say these are all individual cars. I spot them whenever they come up for sale as they are different and interesting. If you wanted to create one then this might be a more cost effective way of doing it than starting with a standard car.

Some people see the journey of creating their individual car as part of the experience, others would just love to own something individual that's been created to a high standard.


CobraPaul

60 posts

96 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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I like this thread. Question, why is it that modified classic 911's are frowned upon when other marques don't suffer in the same way?

An example would be a TR6, a fully restored car that may have a completely different interior colour, specification, engine mod's etc can be woth in excess of £30k.

Do it to a 911 using genuine Porsche parts and you're looked down on by others (both in terms of market value and socialy)

I really don't understand this, mine's a keeper so I'm not bothered about the value but I do get a bit P****d off when owners of mint original cars look down their nose at you at events. Perhaps they're worried some of these desirable updated 911's may one day have an effect on the value of their own.

Food for thought...

marky911

3,706 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Yep Arrow, I do love some replicas, I would just struggle to pay the prices being asked when you can have a rarer car that was properly developed and built by Porsche, for similar money.
I do love the 964 and discussed it with its former keeper who is on here. I would have even paid £35k. It didn't sell for £38k so I can't understand JZM pricing it at £40-odd K. God loves a trier though. wink

marky911

3,706 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Cobra Paul, it's just different strokes for different folks. If you're happy then fine.

My dad has restored classics all his life and believe me, modified classics are just as marmite to most people.
Like I say, I love some modified Pork but not a silly inflated prices. Yes the mint green 964 cost more to build than it would sell for, but the guy knew that when he started out.
It's an RS rep with a sunroof though! Like I say £35k would be okay, anymore is lunacy and I am a HUGE 964 fan.

ETA- good thread though with some nice cars to view. Beats the depreciation threads.



Edited by marky911 on Monday 9th December 12:15

supersport

2,889 posts

172 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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I don't think classic mods are generally frowned upon, although clearly they are some, although I would agree that some of the resale prices are mental.

911s have been modified since the dawn of time and there is clearly a big market for them.

Rutlandracing

215 posts

111 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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The mint car (colour and condition!) was mine, I sold it earlier this year after 5 and half years of loving it. I bonded with it and loved it but times change and I just didn't use it enough. I don't really understand why it's so quickly back on the market but it's a fine thing. My replacement is a much modified '71 car in Gulf Blue.

BertBert

12,889 posts

156 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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There seem to be both equally...highly modified early 911s and fanatically original ones and all places in-between. I don't think that modded ones are really frowned upon at all.
Bert

zeb

2,914 posts

163 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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Rutlandracing said:
The mint car (colour and condition!) was mine, I sold it earlier this year after 5 and half years of loving it. I bonded with it and loved it but times change and I just didn't use it enough. I don't really understand why it's so quickly back on the market but it's a fine thing. My replacement is a much modified '71 car in Gulf Blue.
I keep looking at minty.... scratchchin

After 2 996TT and currently a 997 turbo i'm starting to desire something a little different. Just concerned it might be a little too focussed and with those seats would I need to carry round the chiropracter instead of the wife?!! laugh I know the peeps at jasmine as they look after all my pork so I know its been screwed together well.

How usuable was it David if you dont mind me asking?

ArrowSC

591 posts

172 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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marky911 said:
Yep Arrow, I do love some replicas, I would just struggle to pay the prices being asked when you can have a rarer car that was properly developed and built by Porsche, for similar money.
Are GT3s really that rare? That Cup-engined 993 is possibly unique and would interest me more than a GT3. A good specialist or knowledgeable enthusiast can significantly enhance a 911 for a given role, free of the marketing and legislative constraints companies like Porsche have to develop within today.

There's a rich history of modified 911s and Porsche themselves used to build modified cars, and supply kits for owners to enhance their own cars beyond what was acceptable to the market at large. Both routes can result in great cars but with different appeals for different folk, and as pointed out above the journey of developing the car can be fun too.

Rutlandracing said:
The mint car (colour and condition!) was mine.... My replacement is a much modified '71 car in Gulf Blue.
I've said it before, but that is just about perfect

Rutlandracing

215 posts

111 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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zeb said:
I keep looking at minty.... scratchchin

After 2 996TT and currently a 997 turbo i'm starting to desire something a little different. Just concerned it might be a little too focussed and with those seats would I need to carry round the chiropracter instead of the wife?!! laugh I know the peeps at jasmine as they look after all my pork so I know its been screwed together well.

How usable was it David if you don't mind me asking?
It was fine, though I did ridiculously low miles in time I owned it. The seats were surprisingly good, I drove to Le Mans in it every year and that's c500 miles for me and no issues at all. Harnesses alone are a bit of a pain, though I guess they come into their own on the track -something I never did with minty.

The blue car is just being finished by Jasmine. It has been horrendously expensive.....

charge

508 posts

181 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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What happened to that guy who had a stunning blue 3.2 Carrera shell, 3.8 engine on throttle bodies, rsr bodywork and 993 six speed box?
Think his name was Mateo or something, cant find him on the directory, but remember his car about five years ago at Brands, and he had just finished it.
Without doubt one the prettiest, and most sorted 911's I have set my eyes on. Sound was to die for!!
Sure it was in a few mags or featured on here a few times?