Advice on potential new purchase 911 2.7 viper green

[umeerw]

Dear All,

Would love to hear your thoughts on a car purchase I'm contemplating.

It's a 1973 2.7 fully restored viper green (74 model) rebuilt engine 900 miles since. Black wheels. Number 935 of the impact bumpers. American LHD. It had the 7r crankcase of the RS but runs on K Jetronic injection. Duck tail spoiler

Carrera engineering stripped the engine and sorted just about everything. The viper green glass coat spray is in perfect condition bar an irritating bird dropping on the bonnet.

The interior is in good condition , the drivers seat will need some attention and restoration , rest is ok. Wife loves the colour , it stands out , but after reading many posts the 2.7 doesn't get rave reviews here. 40k is the asking price.

Best
Umeer

[umeerw]

Forgot to say matching numbers !

[majordad]

Buy on condition and pay accordingly. Spend a few hundred on an inspection and sleep better afterwards, unless there are cast iron warranties on body not rusting and mechanicals.

[larrylamb11]

Hmmm...
Tough one.
This is the first of the impact bumper cars (so missing the early long bonnet car character), but with little of the impact bumper robustness. These early 2.7 IB cars had a poor reputation for the engine, which was underpowered, strangled and delicate in this application (not to mention expensive to fix when it went wrong).
Being pre-1975 they also didn't benefit from the later car's galvanising and rust proofing.
It's horses for courses and as said above, condition is key. It wouldn't be my first pick of the air cooled 911 range, particularly at the sort of money that might see me in a later car which would look visibly similar but be a world ahead in performance and refinement.
You would do well to head over to ImpactBumpers.com for a more balanced and better informed opinion, but I would think you could buy all round better for the same or less money.... unless of course you really really want a 911 from this era of production.

Edited by larrylamb11 on Tuesday 19th December 16:21

[umeerw]

Thankyou ! I'll do that!

Umeer

[umeerw]

The condition is superb, not an inch of rust , external bodywork is done to a very high standard. I'll check to see the warranty on the engine rebuild , apparently. Bow generates 195bhp.

It's in a private car collection (40 cars). Most ferraris. I will have to do some superficial work on interior. I'm also starting a collection so really would like one that's grows. The 2.7 has such average reviews that I'm tempted to leave it though at 37.5 k. It's very tempting. I suppose I just have to be a big boy and bite
The bullet and make a decision.

[SRT Hellcat]

personally for that sort of money I would put it into a 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe

[Carrera2.7]

I agree with what has already been said - the USA 2.7 carrera by all accounts was an unremarkable car and came as a response to US regulations imposed as a response to a fuel crisis. However, if the car is to sit in a collection as an example of an early impact bumper car, then performance may not matter. Otherwise - I would look for a good later car like the carrera 3, SC or 3.2, each have their merits and quirks.

[umeerw]

Thankyou all, intool it for a test drive and loved it, the extra bhp has def made a difference, it will sit in a collection and will appear sporadically, the finish wit regards to restore action is second to none so hard to turn down.

Thanks again!!

[umeerw]

Apologies for spelling errors blasted I phone !!

[SRT Hellcat]

congratulations. Do use it occasionally. They do not like sitting about doing nothing.

[Gunk]

The 2.7 was always the entry level 911 and prices reflect that. If it is a narrow bodied car £40,000 is a ton of money as they were never that special.

The mid 1970’s sweet spot in the range was the Carrera 3.0. 200 bhp and fully galvanised although they still rust, any 911 of that vintage, however shiny, you need to carefully check B posts and front wings with a magnet, any filler walk away, b posts alone were £1000 a side to fix 20 years ago and each wing was about the same price.

[umeerw]

[umeerw]

[umeerw]

[Gunk]

That looks metallic, Viper green was a solid colour.

[dugsud]

This looks like the metallic variant of Viper Green which differs quite a bit from the slightly darker, non-metallic, Viper Green that was available in the very early ’70's.....they made both.

I would struggle to live with that panel gap under the bonnet if you don't mind me saying

[umeerw]

Yes your right , it needs the smile rubber part which still needs to go on !!

[dugsud]

I'm not sure if a standard IB smile would fit as those are fiberglass bumpers....the top of the bumper seems to have sagged a bit...

[silver718]

Not really a restoration with fibreglass bumpers and later front wings. I would also be very suspicious of a "restoration" when the spray job just painted over the wash bottle and A/C condenser nerf bar. Was the wash bottle even removed to at least check the well known rot area behind it?