993 NB @ £80K with 84k miles...really?!
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I think that car has been devalued (or at least made a tricky seller) by messing about with it - it was probably worth £85k at that time since it was an original low mileage car. I'd hope that they fitted a new speedo rather than zero'ing the old one so that the actual mileage can be reconciled with both speedo's. It appears to be running a 996GT3 intake on top of ITB's so I'd expect around 350bhp from that engine. Shame it's a RHD though as I'd be tempted to have a look otherwise.
IMI A said:
www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...
How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
You can take a car and spend any amount you like on it, but it doesn't mean the end product is worth what you've spent.How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
Modifying cars very rarely sees a return on the cost of the parts and labour, it's more about the creator enjoying the journey.
Always surprises me how many get sold within a year of completion.
The winner is usually the person who buys the finished project.
The pool of buyers is often small as they've niche creations, which need careful research to see if they're up to scratch.
g7jhp said:
You can take a car and spend any amount you like on it, but it doesn't mean the end product is worth what you've spent.
Modifying cars very rarely sees a return on the cost of the parts and labour, it's more about the creator enjoying the journey.
Always surprises me how many get sold within a year of completion.
The winner is usually the person who buys the finished project.
The pool of buyers is often small as they've niche creations, which need careful research to see if they're up to scratch.
yep, it is what it is. na tuning is stupidly expensive too, a 240hp tuned clio 182 I was looking to get today costs £11k, with you provide the base engine :SModifying cars very rarely sees a return on the cost of the parts and labour, it's more about the creator enjoying the journey.
Always surprises me how many get sold within a year of completion.
The winner is usually the person who buys the finished project.
The pool of buyers is often small as they've niche creations, which need careful research to see if they're up to scratch.
Currently in the market for an air cooled car, and have went to look at few over the last couple of weeks.
After speaking with a few dealers and private sellers, there is a common story from them all, sales are not what they were and prices in general have taken a decent drop over the last year or so.
The Cazana website is proving very useful to check how long some of the cars have been on the market, and at what price they started at. A decent gradual drop in the last 12 months, it was starting to get silly, but if they stabilise where they are now, then I think that's good news.
After speaking with a few dealers and private sellers, there is a common story from them all, sales are not what they were and prices in general have taken a decent drop over the last year or so.
The Cazana website is proving very useful to check how long some of the cars have been on the market, and at what price they started at. A decent gradual drop in the last 12 months, it was starting to get silly, but if they stabilise where they are now, then I think that's good news.
My experience suggests cars often fall into one of two camps; serviced (possibly) irregularly & not much more, especially not preventative maintenance, or those you see on 911UK, i.e. obsessed about and cared for like a new born. The one downside is that they're often modded, and some may not be to an investors taste, i.e not original, but given this may often include the number 1 mod in my eyes, HID's, I can't see that as an issue. This one is merely a safety aspect in my eyes.
acme said:
My experience suggests cars often fall into one of two camps; serviced (possibly) irregularly & not much more, especially not preventative maintenance, or those you see on 911UK, i.e. obsessed about and cared for like a new born. The one downside is that they're often modded, and some may not be to an investors taste, i.e not original, but given this may often include the number 1 mod in my eyes, HID's, I can't see that as an issue. This one is merely a safety aspect in my eyes.
Mot fail now so probably need swapping back to the poor originals !!200Plus Club said:
Mot fail now so probably need swapping back to the poor originals !!
I did hear something about that.......when I got mine 10 years ago I couldn't understand how even in the mid 90's a 160mph car could be sold with such pi** poor lights!So any ideas what everyone's going to do, find a friendly MOT tester?
acme said:
I did hear something about that.......when I got mine 10 years ago I couldn't understand how even in the mid 90's a 160mph car could be sold with such pi** poor lights!
So any ideas what everyone's going to do, find a friendly MOT tester?
Yes it's crazy but thems the new rules apparently. It's very specific about certain things now on mot but hopefully a tester with sense and being friendly might assist. Worth looking into for definite before you present it I guess. I loved mine on my 993So any ideas what everyone's going to do, find a friendly MOT tester?
IMI A said:
www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...
How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
New advert details say the car has done 80k miles and is a C16 UK car? Asking £80k How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
SignalGruen said:
I think that car has been devalued (or at least made a tricky seller) by messing about with it - it was probably worth £85k at that time since it was an original low mileage car. I'd hope that they fitted a new speedo rather than zero'ing the old one so that the actual mileage can be reconciled with both speedo's. It appears to be running a 996GT3 intake on top of ITB's so I'd expect around 350bhp from that engine. Shame it's a RHD though as I'd be tempted to have a look otherwise.
Spoke to Paul Stephens re 964 C2 and you're spot on she's rated at 350bhp. The thing has RSR cams, Jenvey TB and revs out to 8000rpm! Not much torque below 4000rpm apparently so quite different to the 993 RS rep which is more of a torque monster with less hp at 330bhp.ras62 said:
IMI A said:
www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...
How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
New advert details say the car has done 80k miles and is a C16 UK car? Asking £80k How much should this nb 964 with 3.8 build be? Purchaser bought her with 28,000 miles ex Brunei car for £85,000 from Tech 9 then built the engine to 300bhp + spec for £40,000
So its cost owner £125,000 + maybe more as you can see the suspension has also been upgraded.
Its a shame they have zeroed the speedo since engine rebuild but even though not 993 be very interesting to see what she sells for. There will be more and more custom cars like this going forward as owners indulging themselves a bit by tinkering and optimising their old bangers. I suspect the owner will lose little of his outlay on this beauty. Tempted to go and have look at her myself
ras62 said:
I remember it sold quickly a few years ago but tbh it sounds like its been spoilt with those engine mods. It will be pretty miserable on the road with standard gearing.
I'm sure she can be mapped for more torque and sacrifice that top end. Kind of defeats the point of that Redtek engine build though 
I agree with others car looks stunning.
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