997.1 GT3 change to aircooled

997.1 GT3 change to aircooled

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Slippydiff

14,828 posts

223 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Yellow491 said:
Do you mean like this smile

Hi Paul, hope you're well ?

I'd go the other way (997 Cup engine in a '69 car) ...



When are you out hillclimbing locally again ?





Cunno

511 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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n12maser said:
991 is same width as 997 surprisingly. It's more the length that seems the issue, longer wheel-base removing the 911 traits we know and love
Where are you getting your information from?

997 GT3
Engine 3.6 L 415 PS (305 kW) H6 3.8 L 435 PS (320 kW) H6 3.8 L 450 PS (331 kW) H6 4.0 L 500 PS (368 kW) H6
Dimensions
Length 174.3 in (4,427 mm)
Width 71.2 in (1,808 mm)

Porsche 991
Dimensions
Wheelbase 2,450 mm (96.5 in) 2,457 mm (96.7 in) (GT3)
Length 4,491 mm (176.8 in) (Carrera) 4,506 mm (177.4 in) (Turbo) 4,545 mm (178.9 in) (GT3)
Width 1,808 mm (71.2 in) (Carrera) 1,880 mm (74.0 in) (Turbo) 1,852 mm (72.9 in) (GT3)


So

26,273 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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v8ksn said:
Are 964's with (working) air con common or rare as unicorn teeth?

I remember many MANY years ago looking at 964's with my brother and all the ones advertised would say something along the lines of ..... air con (assume not working) biggrin

Is this a common problem that is easily fixed?
My air cooled 911s never had working air.

braddo

10,464 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Yellow491 said:
It is air cooled,donnor engine to start with was a 964,thrown most parts away,replaced with rsr crank and cylinder heads,rsr cams,Carrillo rods,je pistons,motorsport rockers ,springs etc,motec,jenvey throttle bodies,up front dry sump,tilton tripple plate 5 1/4 inch clutch and lwt flywheel,rsr oil pump,rsr flat belt conversion,etc etc,
Amazing, always great to see people building interesting cars, it's becoming a lot more rare these days.

With the Cup tyres, does that mean it goes on road or track days (as opposed to being a pure race car)?

Yellow491

2,922 posts

119 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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braddo said:
Yellow491 said:
It is air cooled,donnor engine to start with was a 964,thrown most parts away,replaced with rsr crank and cylinder heads,rsr cams,Carrillo rods,je pistons,motorsport rockers ,springs etc,motec,jenvey throttle bodies,up front dry sump,tilton tripple plate 5 1/4 inch clutch and lwt flywheel,rsr oil pump,rsr flat belt conversion,etc etc,
Amazing, always great to see people building interesting cars, it's becoming a lot more rare these days.

With the Cup tyres, does that mean it goes on road or track days (as opposed to being a pure race car)?
Road legal as well as track.
Slippy next weekend back at shelsley

hunter 66

3,905 posts

220 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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And skilled Hands to manufacture components..... looks amazing

Yellow491

2,922 posts

119 months

Friday 3rd August 2018
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Slippydiff said:
Yellow491 said:
Do you mean like this smile

Hi Paul, hope you're well ?

I'd go the other way (997 Cup engine in a '69 car) ...thats bit of project also,but it will probably be a bit heavier,theory is the less drag of 996,yet to see if the rear wing drags this one to a stop!



When are you out hillclimbing locally again ?

CrashBang

225 posts

155 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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Porsche911R said:
CrashBang said:
You have issues with everything that is not self serving.

The very fact that you feel air cooled cars lack over taking power only serves to highlight your ignorance,1965 2.0L are reaching speeds of circa 147mph at Spa.
A: I own none so how is it self serving !!! I just said with my money a 964 or a 911E would do me if I wanted that sort of thing ie. usable air cooler or a nice classic those 2 would be my top picks.


B: Shock ! highy modded £250k custom built race cars are quite fast (still only 220bhp/t mind you) so a bit short over even a Cayman R as an example :-)

So either you are being a bit ignorant or stupid yourself or you just want to pick a fight thinking I don't know anything ?
You dont own one, hence why you have issues with them - If you had one they would be awesome!

You only have to read your previous posts to see that most are all self serving, talking up what you have and like but talking down and being argumentative about what you dont! - Its so tiresome!

However you have no issue in contracting yourself when you change cars, so I would not be surprised to see in the future posting rave reviews about these slow air cooled cars.

Take a day off, even your rhino like skin must need a break!







KIPSTER

216 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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So said:
v8ksn said:
Are 964's with (working) air con common or rare as unicorn teeth?

I remember many MANY years ago looking at 964's with my brother and all the ones advertised would say something along the lines of ..... air con (assume not working) biggrin

Is this a common problem that is easily fixed?
My air cooled 911s never had working air.
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I have had the Electro A/C (retro)fitted on my 1988 3.2 and it works a treat even in the recent hot weather. I am sure they have now developed a model for the 964 also....worth checking this out.

braddo

10,464 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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KIPSTER said:
I have had the Electro A/C (retro)fitted on my 1988 3.2 and it works a treat even in the recent hot weather. I am sure they have now developed a model for the 964 also....worth checking this out.
I've not heard of electric a/c in cars. Do you have any more details you could share? It could make having a classic to bimble about in during summertime much more appealing for the family!

Discombobulate

4,836 posts

186 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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anonymous said:
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I went from 996.2 GT3 to air cooled. I loved the GT3 on track but not as a road car, even with bespoke suspension and set up. My old 1970 911was lithe and fluid over every surface, just a bit slow.
I must add that I think the 997 a better car than the 996 in terms of looks, interior and drive, but each to their own. My wife has a 997.1 and I think I'm going to have to prise the keys out of her dead fingers (many years hence I hope).

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Discombobulate said:
I went from 996.2 GT3 to air cooled. I loved the GT3 on track but not as a road car, even with bespoke suspension and set up. My old 1970 911was lithe and fluid over every surface, just a bit slow.
I must add that I think the 997 a better car than the 996 in terms of looks, interior and drive, but each to their own. My wife has a 997.1 and I think I'm going to have to prise the keys out of her dead fingers (many years hence I hope).
Not sure you are allowed to say a 996 GT3 was not a nice road car or a 1970's 911 is too slow on here. :-)

you will get death threats !!

KIPSTER

216 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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braddo said:
KIPSTER said:
I have had the Electro A/C (retro)fitted on my 1988 3.2 and it works a treat even in the recent hot weather. I am sure they have now developed a model for the 964 also....worth checking this out.
I've not heard of electric a/c in cars. Do you have any more details you could share? It could make having a classic to bimble about in during summertime much more appealing for the family!
https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod135650/Electrocooler-Air-Conditioning-Kit-for-Porsche-911/

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Porsche911R said:
Discombobulate said:
I went from 996.2 GT3 to air cooled. I loved the GT3 on track but not as a road car, even with bespoke suspension and set up. My old 1970 911was lithe and fluid over every surface, just a bit slow.
I must add that I think the 997 a better car than the 996 in terms of looks, interior and drive, but each to their own. My wife has a 997.1 and I think I'm going to have to prise the keys out of her dead fingers (many years hence I hope).
Not sure you are allowed to say a 996 GT3 was not a nice road car or a 1970's 911 is too slow on here. :-)

you will get death threats !!
hehe you do go on repeatedly bashing 6 GT3!

I think the point everyone misses about you is that all of us like to talk our own toys up a bit but in terms of your cars they speak for themselves no need to talk them up or down. On the GT3 some people enjoy ringing the neck out of an engine on a weekend fun drive but personally I'm with you and prefer good mid range torque on road. Also every example drives differently with some feeling more lively than others. They're getting on 20 yrs old now!

Back on topic was that green RS evocation up at JZM for £129,995 earlier this yr?


ssute

96 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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I sold my 997 gt3 clubby and bought a rhd 57 356a x race car. I found the gt3 brilliant but too fast to use on the road. I love my 57 great fun and tiny. It wil keep up with modern cars on the road. I feel it's more fun driving a slow car fast, rather than a fast car slow. With today's cameras etc l would have lost my license with the gt3. I haven't looked back [url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/tRxCuJCq[/url]

So

26,273 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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ssute said:
I sold my 997 gt3 clubby and bought a rhd 57 356a x race car. I found the gt3 brilliant but too fast to use on the road. I love my 57 great fun and tiny. It wil keep up with modern cars on the road. I feel it's more fun driving a slow car fast, rather than a fast car slow. With today's cameras etc l would have lost my license with the gt3. I haven't looked back [url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/tRxCuJCq[/url]
Stop now I am becoming green-eyed.

evodarren

Original Poster:

428 posts

134 months

Wednesday 15th August 2018
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ssute said:
I sold my 997 gt3 clubby and bought a rhd 57 356a x race car. I found the gt3 brilliant but too fast to use on the road. I love my 57 great fun and tiny. It wil keep up with modern cars on the road. I feel it's more fun driving a slow car fast, rather than a fast car slow. With today's cameras etc l would have lost my license with the gt3. I haven't looked back [url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/tRxCuJCq[/url]
Hi
Just wondered did you attend the super coat meet at the Hare pub in Roxwell last year. If so I spoke to you regarding your change from a gt3.
Lovely car .

ssute

96 posts

234 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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That was me at the Hare

evodarren

Original Poster:

428 posts

134 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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ssute said:
That was me at the Hare
I remember you saying how much fun it is. You really can’t use fast cars on the roads anymore, unless your out in the sticks or on a track

ssute

96 posts

234 months

Thursday 16th August 2018
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Hi Darren the old air cooled feel nimble and FUN without worrying about speed cameras. Good luck with the search. I enjoyed and respected the GT3 but the 356 makes me smile.