993 but 964 targa - no really

993 but 964 targa - no really

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Orangecurry

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7,426 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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I so want to do this, and have it painted dark green, or blood-orange.... how difficult can it be?

(Rhetorical question, I have read about it already)


Orangecurry

Original Poster:

7,426 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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actually NOT dark green


Koln-RS

3,863 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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As much as I love the 993, it’s not the best looking 911, even in Coupe form.
But those two really don’t work for me.

Pope

2,638 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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I really like that.

If you squint you can see where the 991 targa inspiration came from.

As you say; you already know but easier than a complete conversion, the targa essentially being a cab to start with - and someone will want the (hideously expensive and partially no longer available) original roof section that would supply funds to assist with the inevitable cost of the build (win win)

NoBrakesWC

392 posts

49 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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I think all 993's look very good. The Targa looks so much better with looks than the Convertible. That's my opinion. To do with what colour should you paint it i would say Blood Orange. This colour looks good on any classic to me. But if you want it to be more discrete then go with Dark Green.




Edited by NoBrakesWC on Sunday 10th May 09:20

Essential

1,077 posts

210 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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I quite like that too.

Orangecurry

Original Poster:

7,426 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Thanks for comments - I've really gone off the above 'dark green' by the way.

Obviously the original concept of the targa is the opentoppness of a cab, but without the faf of the soft-top, and I really don't like the fact that the 993 cab looks like a pram with it 'down'.

IMO the 993 Targa is all wrong - it's just a big sunroof and you have extra weight high-up - and obviously Porsche have gone back to the simpler targa in recent years.

I suppose the easy way to do it, is to buy a 964 Targa and a 993 cab, and swop all the bits over, and sell the 964 cab.

Sounds easy.

PH collective shouts Just buy a 964 Targa.... I know, but I much prefer the 993 as a car... and what a project, and you could get silly and make it a WB in Blood Orange or Mexico Blue or....

supersport

4,059 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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There are advantages to the 993 targa, during lock down it makes an excellent green house. It’s a good time of year to give those tomatoes a boost hehe

ch3tman

115 posts

184 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Orangecurry said:
in Blood Orange or Mexico Blue or....
nono Blood Orange? too common...laugh

Although, others have had the same ideas as you...











Search for 993 BETOLAZA...

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894UN5fkGlU

> https://imgur.com/xtKdGMW

Orangecurry said:
and what a project, and you could get silly and make it a WB or....
Sure, why not...




woollyjoe

1,328 posts

119 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Orangecurry said:
IMO the 993 Targa is all wrong - it's just a big sunroof and you have extra weight high-up - and obviously Porsche have gone back to the simpler targa in recent years.
I would say the targa today is the most complex ever. Heaviest ever. It was created as a design piece more than serving any other need.

The original targa came from US law and accidentally became an icon. A porsche sales person came up with the name (I believe).

The targa was always a convertible with bits added, then the 993 and 996 they decided to do something purposeful... it didn’t work and they dropped it.

Then it came back purely for design and marketing in the 991.

Someone may have said all this or will come along and correct so sorry if I’ve got it wrong, but this is my memory.

Orangecurry

Original Poster:

7,426 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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ch3tman said:
Sure, why not...
I didn't say I'd had an original idea hehe - for example that top photo is of a RHD car for sale. But it's a tip.

That Riviera blue one is a bit odd - a half-to-WB conversion as well. But the colour and targaness are exactly what I am thinking.

993-4C

44 posts

222 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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The blue one was made by a specialist in the south of Spain. I have not seen it in the flesh but it was heavily criticized for poor workmanship in this thread from a Spanish forum.
https://www.soloporsche.com/xf/index.php?threads/p...
I can translate bits of it (mind you the thread is 81 pages long) if anybody is interested.
Cheers.

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Speedster you'll forget the targa. If I had the liquid cash would have one of these via 9m smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-g-QeFVr0E

NoBrakesWC

392 posts

49 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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IMI A said:
Speedster you'll forget the targa. If I had the liquid cash would have one of these via 9m smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-g-QeFVr0E
Speedsters look so cool with the bubble bit over the back.

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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IMI A said:
Speedster you'll forget the targa. If I had the liquid cash would have one of these via 9m smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-g-QeFVr0E
+1 993 Speedster is a much better option.

By a 993 Cab and add Speedster bits. wink

Orangecurry

Original Poster:

7,426 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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,,,,yeah I've read about that as well - sounds even more difficult with the changes to the doors and dash.

And I'll be a minority, but the hump is a bit too Quasimodo for me....


IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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993 and G50 speedster really good lookers. Proportions suit the speedster concept. 964 a bit more dumpy but I'd still have one - a wide body like that porn IMO

Orangecurry

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7,426 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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I thought they were all the same proportions?

Doesn't do it for me - it does look better with the top up though hehe


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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My problem with the "traditional" Targa is you lose the whole 911 teardrop shape, as the roof from the header rail back ir flat and horizontal.

The beauty of the 993 targa was it allowed the roofline to slope back retaining the 911 profile.

The Speedster is the Daddy IMHO but they are ruinously expensive to recreate these days, the parts were getting in short supply ten years ago so I'd hate to think what some would cost now, if they're even still available. When I looked into doing it I didn't even want to go wide body as I thought the 993 shape didn't need it (as opposed to the 964 Speedster which always looked a little uncomfortable in it's own skin) but it was still way more expensive than building a wide body rsr-alike.

PushedDover

5,650 posts

53 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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I like the roll bar Targa's
And whilst the Speedster might be rare and command money - I think they are bloody awful - unless a 356.