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[ChrisW.]

Filibuster said:

Cleanhands said:

Is that power figure correct, or have they just put the standard power as none was stated?

You are right. The standard 964 3.6 makes 250hp, the ad states that the engine has been rebuilt to

Ad said:

Ninemeister 3.8 VarioRam Naturally Aspirated 993 RS Specification Engine ... Ninemeister Motec Engine Management

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The `standard` 993 RS has 300hp. I suspect with a Motec ECU and new exhaust this will be around 320hp.

It can't be run without a cat ... but I'd be surprised if it had less than 350bhp ... I owned a 964 3.6 RS with Motec and de-cat which had 343bhp on Wayne Schofields (Chip Wizards) rolling road.

[80sMatchbox]

Slippydiff said:

I'm with you on the seats. It looks like they couldn't find the correct material, so they decided to go the "contrast" route instead.

To me the front and rear wheel arches don't look right, likewise the sills and front bumper.

The sills are a joke. I have no idea how they could have done that to the car and stood back and thought, that looks great!

[Mintbird]

ChrisW. said:

Filibuster said:

Cleanhands said:

Is that power figure correct, or have they just put the standard power as none was stated?

You are right. The standard 964 3.6 makes 250hp, the ad states that the engine has been rebuilt to

Ad said:

Ninemeister 3.8 VarioRam Naturally Aspirated 993 RS Specification Engine ... Ninemeister Motec Engine Management

.

The `standard` 993 RS has 300hp. I suspect with a Motec ECU and new exhaust this will be around 320hp.

It can't be run without a cat ... but I'd be surprised if it had less than 350bhp ... I owned a 964 3.6 RS with Motec and de-cat which had 343bhp on Wayne Schofields (Chip Wizards) rolling road.

So around 300 real Life hp then 😅

[GTRene]

oooh, i like this interior.

Porsche "Queen" Restomod





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[Filibuster]

GTRene said:

oooh, i like this interior.

Porsche "Queen" Restomod





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What is peoples view regarding this build coming from Poland? Not that I doubt the quality of the work itself, but rather the cost of man hours.
Beside actual parts, material and the donor car, you mostly pay for labour.

And in Poland you have a significantly lower average income than Germany/NL/UK/etc.
When the car is sold directly after the build for the same amount other builds from the NL or UK for instance are being sold, it leaves me with the feeling this either is built to a higher standard, which I doubt, or someone is pocketing the difference.

[darreni]

GTRene said:

oooh, i like this interior.

Porsche "Queen" Restomod





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Stunning. Yes please.

[stichill99]

Only reason to go to Poland would be to save money.....hopefully. Reminds me of the Grand Designs when the super dooper windows were bought from Eastern Europe and it all went tragically,expensively wrong and far away, especially when they stop answering phone etc!

[Cheib]

If you are going to use someone abroad to save money you need to factor in the snagging hassle…get the car done in the Uk and a reputable company will work with you over the first few months to get the car running as it should. Then there’s the logistics of visits during build etc. All time and money.

I am sure the work that can be done is as good as many of the UK companies. I wonder what labour rates are ?

[Wilmslowboy]

Interesting car popped up on Facebook

[GTRene]

the pictures are a bit light, but I think its a nice car if you like such 933 GT2 but then used on another base, with 540hp and good looks.

a nice interior, with race-tec? alcantara and bucket seats, also nice power, sadly to much for my savings, but nice it is.











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[carbonblack]

It’s not a 911 but a 912 that has a 911 engine in it now….

Thoughts on this? It sold for 41k

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-porsche-9...

[ImbackYo]

Great value, they'd have lost a small fortune on that. Although as I understand it there's some fundamental chassis differences with the 912??

[Mintbird]

it looks very ropey and done on a budget and halfway needing another restoration.

thought 41k was on the money myself. Could easily see another 20-30k plowed into it before getting it sorted.

[Ffffaster]

What a fantastic thread. It really has opened my eyes to understand that restomods aren't worth building from scratch for the average person. Also good to learn that there is a LOT of rubbish out there.

I could be the market for a good restomod or a tastefully modified/improved 964/993, and was wondering who we feel can be trusted "out of the box"?

Ninemiester?
Theon?
RennSport?

Interesting, not sure if I like it or I don't.

https://www.tomhartley.com/used-car-details/used-p...

Edited by Ffffaster on Tuesday 16th May 11:49

[ImbackYo]

Ffffaster said:

What a fantastic thread. It really has opened my eyes to understand that restomods aren't worth building from scratch for the average person. Also good to learn that there is a LOT of rubbish out there.

I could be the market for a good restomod or a tastefully modified/improved 964/993, and was wondering who we feel can be trusted "out of the box"?

Ninemiester?
Theon?
RennSport?

Interesting, not sure if I like it or I don't.

https://www.tomhartley.com/used-car-details/used-p...

Edited by Ffffaster on Tuesday 16th May 11:49

Mine was predominantly built by Pro-9. They did a fantastic job.

[ImbackYo]

The issue really arises when people realise the cost of doing a good build. So they cut corners or quit half way through which is why you see projects for sale.

[BertBert]

Ffffaster said:

What a fantastic thread. It really has opened my eyes to understand that restomods aren't worth building from scratch for the average person. Also good to learn that there is a LOT of rubbish out there.

I could be the market for a good restomod or a tastefully modified/improved 964/993, and was wondering who we feel can be trusted "out of the box"?

Ninemiester?
Theon?
RennSport?

Interesting, not sure if I like it or I don't.

https://www.tomhartley.com/used-car-details/used-p...

I pm'd you...

Edited by Ffffaster on Tuesday 16th May 11:49

[phib]

Wilmslowboy said:

Interesting car popped up on Facebook

Thats been for sale for at least a year

Phib

[phib]

I have owned and improved 3 "restomods' now, each had loads of money spent on them and then effectively the owners gave up on them as they still needed a chunk of meney spending on them to get them right.

I had a 912 with fully rebuilt 2.2 in it, 1970 2.2 'S" that had a 3.0 SC in it but RSR style bodywork and a 76 with a 2.7 in it (rebuilt engine at a cost of £40k to 2.7 RS spec) and bils for another £50k.

I never really enjoyed any of them as it cost me a fortune to put them right and even then they werent quite right, added to that as they had been messed about with before it cost at least twice as much to do things as you had to put the bits that had messed about with right before you put the new bits on!

I also looked at 'completed cars' by specialists and to be honst most were dreadful eith fit, finish or drive.

In the end I have gone full circle and bought a 100% standard 1988 supersport and it dives better then any of the restomods I had before.

I was not looking at the really expensive stuff i.e. £200k + but certainly in my view most of the £100k-£150k wasnt worth it.

They were also quite difficult to sell on as they are built to specific individuals taste.

Just my 2p worth

Phib

[GTRene]

Ffffaster said:

What a fantastic thread. It really has opened my eyes to understand that restomods aren't worth building from scratch for the average person. Also good to learn that there is a LOT of rubbish out there.

I could be the market for a good restomod or a tastefully modified/improved 964/993, and was wondering who we feel can be trusted "out of the box.

Interesting, not sure if I like it or I don't.

https://www.tomhartley.com/used-car-details/used-p...

not bad, looks pretty good on the money (in those silly days) with 3.8 and some interesting parts, ok not a fan of such rear spoiler although better looking then the ones after that, but rather like a bit ala Singer style rear spoiler-ish, so small.