Ferrari 458 Speciale Autocar

[Bluerinser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmCkdbdCOog

[SteelySteve]

Bluerinser said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmCkdbdCOog

Doesn't sound very good to me, looks like nothing will beat the CS for noise

[Johnnyforeigner]

SteelySteve said:

Doesn't sound very good to me, looks like nothing will beat the CS for noise

Speciale sounds fine to me - and not so loud you can't use it on any circuits.

Reading Pistonheads forums lately it appears that nothing will ever be better than a CS in any way, at any time.........

[johnnyreggae]

Johnnyforeigner said:

Reading Pistonheads forums lately it appears that nothing will ever be better than a CS in any way, at any time.........

Unless you are jackal or GRB430F1 who fantasise about various VWs

[Amirhussain]

Johnnyforeigner said:

SteelySteve said:

Doesn't sound very good to me, looks like nothing will beat the CS for noise

Reading Pistonheads forums lately it appears that nothing will ever be better than a CS in any way, at any time.........

+1

[graeme4130]

I really like the idea that the sound is focused for the cabin so it's a bit more trackday legal that the CS and Scud were and you don't need Ferrari or db unlimited specific days to use it. However, there's always going to be times were you really just need to give it a massive boot full of right foot and want the world to know you're coming
It sounds decent in the videos, but certainly not an attention grabbing sound like a CS gives out from 5 miles away

[GRBF430F1]

johnnyreggae said:

Unless you are jackal or GRB430F1 who fantasise about various VWs

I would take a VW over a fiat any day of the week

[APOLO1]

would love one of these cars.....but 50k loss in 12 months is just mad....

[andymc]

Did the 430 scud lose that or are these in a different ballpark price wise?

[sone]

APOLO1 said:

would love one of these cars.....but 50k loss in 12 months is just mad....

That crystal ball out again is it?. Or don't tell me you can buy a left hooker for 200k in Germany already!

[GALLARDOGUY]

You'd think he'd take a day off today, wouldn't you...

[sone]

GALLARDOGUY said:

You'd think he'd take a day off today, wouldn't you...

No mention of the 500k 4.0ltr RS yet either but I suppose its early(-:

[nutbehinddawheel]

APOLO1 said:

would love one of these cars.....but 50k loss in 12 months is just mad....

+1

[APOLO1]

Question....what is the track DB?..my scud was 128 at 4k....

[APOLO1]

sone said:

That crystal ball out again is it?. Or don't tell me you can buy a left hooker for 200k in Germany already!

nope would love one.....but can not see any reason as to why it wont follow the same loss as the normal 458....

[Alpinestars]

APOLO1 said:

nope would love one.....but can not see any reason as to why it wont follow the same loss as the normal 458....

Because the CS and Scud have shown the same pattern?

[APOLO1]

Alpinestars said:

Because the CS and Scud have shown the same pattern?

I am referring to short term....12-24 months, were are 360 CS now ,I had 2 one at 133k and one at 137k my 430scud was 189k....

[APOLO1]

Alpinestars said:

Because the CS and Scud have shown the same pattern?

respectfully, I do not follow your logic....360CS......40K behind list after 10 years.....430 Scud 60/70k from list?

[APOLO1]

APOLO1 said:

Alpinestars said:

Because the CS and Scud have shown the same pattern?

respectfully, I do not follow your logic....360CS......40K behind list after 10 years.....430 Scud 60/70k from list?

still waiting ?

[Alpinestars]

APOLO1 said:

still waiting ?

3 consecutive posts. It's clearly bothering you.

Respectfully, you moved the goal posts. You didn't say anything about short term losses.

The CS is now arguably above list. Well above the "normal" 360 which is about half its list price. The delta will only grow.

As you know, very few cars make above list in 1 to 2 years after launch.

There is no reason to assume in the longer term the Speciale will not be worth relatively more than 458, and in the short term it will depreciate.