Challenge stradale manual

Challenge stradale manual

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maxgas

Original Poster:

176 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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Tell me I am wrong but I thought challenge stradale's all came with the f1 gear change, and if so what is The black car being sold at the moment which if I my eyes do not deceive me has a manual gearbox in one of the photos.

Sorry but I do not know how to put the link up here, but you can see it under classifieds.confused

FerrariV8

357 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th December 2013
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HI Max,

Your are correct its a Manual 360 Modena - modified, its not a CS and they should not be listing it as one - potentially a sale of goods act issue.

T.

maxgas

Original Poster:

176 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Naughty!

So let me see , get one 360 Modena, add some carbon bits, harnesses and some challenge wheels, finish off with a nice stripe and hey presto :- A challenge stradale for just £99000. idea

bromers2

1,867 posts

249 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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maxgas said:
Tell me I am wrong but I thought challenge stradale's all came with the f1 gear change, and if so what is The black car being sold at the moment which if I my eyes do not deceive me has a manual gearbox in one of the photos.

Sorry but I do not know how to put the link up here, but you can see it under classifieds.confused
Yes - and evident by the cheap price.

maxgas

Original Poster:

176 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Yes - and evident by the cheap price.

It would be cheap if it was a real one, advertising it as a stradale is a bit misleading!

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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maxgas said:
Yes - and evident by the cheap price.

It would be cheap if it was a real one, advertising it as a stradale is a bit misleading!
I'm not sure I would pay that for a real one but at least this is a proper manual car whistle

Carbonio

154 posts

140 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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GRBF430F1 said:
I'm not sure I would pay that for a real one but at least this is a proper manual car whistle
You are boring......getting a bit like a porker fan.

gt500nick

960 posts

137 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Carbonio said:
GRBF430F1 said:
I'm not sure I would pay that for a real one but at least this is a proper manual car whistle
You are boring......getting a bit like a porker fan.
he is being paid by Lambo marketing dept to post as much anti Ferrari chat as possible, so far he is earning his money.

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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gt500nick said:
he is being paid by Lambo marketing dept to post as much anti Ferrari chat as possible, so far he is earning his money.
biglaugh I wish.

I think the F355GTS manual is the best car ever made but then again I might be biased if its rosso corsa and crema with a capristo exhaust

Ferrari fan through and through here. I've never knocked the CS as a car just its ridiculous price premium which I feel is unjustified but it only takes 1 person to pay the price, sadly that will not be me at these premiums

gt500nick

960 posts

137 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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GRBF430F1 said:
gt500nick said:
he is being paid by Lambo marketing dept to post as much anti Ferrari chat as possible, so far he is earning his money.
biglaugh I wish.

I think the F355GTS manual is the best car ever made but then again I might be biased if its rosso corsa and crema with a capristo exhaust

you paid £150k for a lambo that is losing value, but you wouldn't pay £150k for a Ferrari that is appreciating in value?

Ferrari fan through and through here. I've never knocked the CS as a car just its ridiculous price premium which I feel is unjustified but it only takes 1 person to pay the price, sadly that will not be me at these premiums

jackal

11,248 posts

281 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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A number of CS's have been converted to manual (Dk have done at least 2 IIRC) but presumably this isn't one of them ?

gt500nick

960 posts

137 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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Ask for the vin and check it then we can be sure

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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gt500nick said:
I buy the best CAR for driving and its not about the money. I expect and budget for a loss, which is more than compensated by my other appreciating assets.
I have a mate who invests in cars and has about 8 in his collection but he rarely drives any of them which seems pointless to me. Over a 10 year period my houses have doubled what he has made on his cars and I've got to drive all kinds of exotica in the meantime

He thinks I'm nuts and I think he is nuts but there you go, you pays your money you make your choices.

He seems happy to wheel and deal and just look at them whereas all I want to do is drive them.

What makes me laugh was I told him to buy a CS 3 years ago at £90k and when I told him yesterday they were now £170k you should of seen his face. He is a big Porsche fan and I won't repeat what he thought about the price as his view is more extreme than mine

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2014
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But they're not all £170k. See my other post in the main CS thread, if you can live with LHD then you have quite a pic (inc Scuds) at seemingly reasonable prices...

JMP86

215 posts

145 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Surely anybody looking for a CS will know this isn't genuine, it never ceases to amaze me at some of the adverts people come up with, if it were advertised as a modena with some upgrades i'm sure the would sell a lot easier than being falsely advertised as a CS, a price wouldn't hurt either.

maxgas

Original Poster:

176 posts

166 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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I totally agree, it would be better to put it under the normal 360 section otherwise people will think you are trying to con them into thinking it is a real one. I might even have been interested!

Thing is with the prices now , rhd models are out of my price range. However lhd is a possibility, as I love the look and sound of the cs, saying that for not much more money you could have a lhd 430 scuderia which is faster and better built and which I am sure will eventually start rising in value as well. To make myself more confused , I could have a 360 and throw some upgrades on it , cs software, improve the handling etc and with the money saved I could get another car as well , maybe a all out track car like a lotus 211 , radical sr3 etc. Another option would be just a normal f430, but I am not convinced about the noise it makes, and that would not leave much change for another car.

Choices. Choices.

Or a 360 and a nissan gtr / Audi r8.

What to do!

Bas Jaski

434 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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maxgas said:
you could have a lhd 430 scuderia which is faster and better built
Disagree. Yes it is faster no doubt, but IMO the CS is better built. The CS was build on the same line as their race cars, whereas the Scuderia (wonderful it is) was build on the normal V8 production line.

Having followed Trev's thread converting his 360 into a manual CS into something almost 200kg lighter it has become evident that a CS is so much more than a 360 with a couple of parts added/removed. A lot of the underlying parts are completely different.

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As others have mentioned, converting a CS to manual is quite possible. Parts will run you about £5k and it's completely reversible.

Russell996

494 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Bas Jaski said:
The CS was build on the same line as their race cars…..
No it wasn't, seems to be often quoted falsehood. I've even heard owners quote that the CS was built on the Enzo line - LOL!

Bas Jaski

434 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Russell996 said:
No it wasn't, seems to be often quoted falsehood. I've even heard owners quote that the CS was built on the Enzo line - LOL!
Interesting. I have seen pictures of many Challenge parts on the CS though, where the 360 has normal parts.

Russell996

494 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Bas Jaski said:
Interesting. I have seen pictures of many Challenge parts on the CS though, where the 360 has normal parts.
Agreed, same parts on the Scud as well.