Are Speciale That Special
Discussion
RamboLambo said:
MDL111 said:
Great cars, but I think I'd rather have a 675 LT for less money
for a little more
and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
Love the 458 Speciale's N/A engine but overall still another vote here for the 675LT.especially in spider form where the equivalent 458 Speciale is twice the price at circa £600kfor a little more
and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
Who knows how many Speciales are out there wheras the McLaren is LIMITED to only 500/500 coupe/spider worldwide
Edited by Jules360 on Friday 27th July 06:49
As we know it totally depends on supply but it's a lot harder to finance a car that is 100% more than the original asking price !
For example I know someone that lost 40k in the early stages of the speciale when they were volatile pricing and he only had it 3 or 4 months.
It will certainly be interesting to watch what prices the flippers are able to achieve for the first 12 months of the Pista. But if we are suggesting over 450,000 pounds then there will be very limited people out there willing to pay that premium. I certainly wouldn't although I am Scottish !
For example I know someone that lost 40k in the early stages of the speciale when they were volatile pricing and he only had it 3 or 4 months.
It will certainly be interesting to watch what prices the flippers are able to achieve for the first 12 months of the Pista. But if we are suggesting over 450,000 pounds then there will be very limited people out there willing to pay that premium. I certainly wouldn't although I am Scottish !
Jules360 said:
Oh God, here we go ..... and he hasn't even got it yet. Cue endless drivel about the benefits of it being LIMITED.
Edited by Jules360 on Friday 27th July 06:49
LIMITED and a CARBON TUB !,
all it would need to be the perfect ultimate car would be a big NATURALLY ASPIRATED Engine but at least the Performante has that criteria covered.
Anyway for me its the perfect 2 supercar combo of spider and coupe. Don't panic pics of the beasts together outside my council flat to follow
RamboLambo said:
Jules360 said:
Oh God, here we go ..... and he hasn't even got it yet. Cue endless drivel about the benefits of it being LIMITED.
Edited by Jules360 on Friday 27th July 06:49
LIMITED and a CARBON TUB !,
all it would need to be the perfect ultimate car would be a big NATURALLY ASPIRATED Engine but at least the Performante has that criteria covered.
Anyway for me its the perfect 2 supercar combo of spider and coupe. Don't panic pics of the beasts together outside my council flat to follow
isaldiri said:
I think one might find there are more than 500 675 spiders and 500 675 coupes.... Mclaren's definition of 'limited' has been taken from the Ferrari school of counting.
Not strictly true. there are ONLY 500/500 675LT's.The 688HS is a model of its own, a higher special edition based on the 675 as is the carbon edition, both of which are incredibly rare and in a completely different price bracket.
McLaren have a lot to learn from Ferrari ( sales, marketing, aftersales, dealer network ) but counting isn't one of them.
Whichever way you cut it the finite limited 675LT is a lot rarer than the regular production 458 special of which we guess 5,000 give or take the "Italian factor"
RamboLambo said:
Not strictly true. there are ONLY 500/500 675LT's.
The 688HS is a model of its own, a higher special edition based on the 675 as is the carbon edition, both of which are incredibly rare and in a completely different price bracket.
wrong. you will find 4 digit vin 675s (non HS which don't run the same series vin) if you look hard enough.The 688HS is a model of its own, a higher special edition based on the 675 as is the carbon edition, both of which are incredibly rare and in a completely different price bracket.
Anyway plastic cars aside I’m talking about what I believe is a car that will be linked more to the past than the future, linked to heritage and the era of making cars out of metal with NA engines. Nothing wrong with new technology but I am finding it all a bit plasticky now if you know what I mean! It’s not all about the headline numbers I guess!
Mr Noble said:
Worthy thread resuscitation.
Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
I enjoyed my Speciale but prefer the Pista I have now. The extra power and torque are welcome and I even prefer the (admittedly piped) sound when pressing on. Speciale or LT? That's a tough one. When I had both I found myself driving the LT (Spider) more than the Ferrari. HTH.Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
Mr Noble said:
Worthy thread resuscitation.
Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
Cheapest LT in the UK is/was not that far off right (I want to say 180 pre negotiation)? Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
Speciale tough for now, I still think low mileage/collector ones will be worth less than comparable 360 CS and 430 Scuderia in the long run, but no clue at which price level (and might well take 15 years to get there). Cheapest Speciale I can remember was in 2014 or 2015 for c 215k euros with c 15k km on the clock I believe - that was well below list, short while later prices took off and suddenly they all cost 270k plus
Durzel said:
No chance imo.
I’d be surprised if it dropped lower than list (big mileage notwithstanding). It’s a limited edition of the last V8 Ferrari made.
The Speciale coupe was not Limited Edition. Between 2500-3000 Speciale coupes were sold worldwide. UK accounted for about 10% (with additional RHD cars in AsiaPac markets).I’d be surprised if it dropped lower than list (big mileage notwithstanding). It’s a limited edition of the last V8 Ferrari made.
The Speciale Aperta was Limited Edition (499 cars worldwide). About 10% UK RHD.
Camlet said:
The Speciale coupe was not Limited Edition. Between 2500-3000 Speciale coupes were sold worldwide. UK accounted for about 10% (with additional RHD cars in AsiaPac markets).
The Speciale Aperta was Limited Edition (499 cars worldwide). About 10% UK RHD.
333 UK Speciales (just over half of all RHD cars made). Just under 3000 worldwide.The Speciale Aperta was Limited Edition (499 cars worldwide). About 10% UK RHD.
UK Speciale Apertas: about 65 (I'm not 100% sure because there are a few that might have been imports from other RHD markets). I do know how many were made (not 499) but I'm not going to post it here. Sorry.
A lot more Pistas made.
Ferruccio said:
jtremlett said:
I do know how many were made (not 499) but I'm not going to post it here. Sorry.
A matter of national security?MDL111 said:
Mr Noble said:
Worthy thread resuscitation.
Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
Cheapest LT in the UK is/was not that far off right (I want to say 180 pre negotiation)? Where are we currently with thoughts on how Speciale the Speciale is?
Some of the predictions in this thread have come true, others not so much.
I’m still dreaming of a £150k Speciale or LT.....maybe next year?
Speciale tough for now, I still think low mileage/collector ones will be worth less than comparable 360 CS and 430 Scuderia in the long run, but no clue at which price level (and might well take 15 years to get there). Cheapest Speciale I can remember was in 2014 or 2015 for c 215k euros with c 15k km on the clock I believe - that was well below list, short while later prices took off and suddenly they all cost 270k plus
LT does represent cracking value in direct comparison to the Speciale esp. considering its lower production, availability and stonking performance.
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