Importing 458 or not?
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PrancingHorses said:
At a dealer this car above is £160k all day!
I'd think that for 180k Euros you can buy a decent spider or a much newer 458 Coupe than the above Edit: Ignore that - for some reason i thought we were talking about a LHD car - must've still been sleeping ....
Edited by MDL111 on Friday 19th May 11:49
PrancingHorses said:
At a dealer this car above is £160k all day!
Yup, sensible private "priced to sell" price really, quite refreshing really. I'd be surprised if dealer bids weren't £140k+ to be honest. Each to their own but not sure I'd waste my time with private sellers at this level for the sake of a couple of grand, especially since I imagine you'd expect to get haggled down by about that much anyway.I was a bit surprised when I saw it to be honest - but I haven't done anything beyond seeing the advert.
PrancingHorses said:
At a dealer this car above is £160k all day!
They are coming down in price ... the market is talking ... by winter they will be lower still. Cars are worth what they sell for, not what they are advertised at. There are too many people in denial, hence the cars that aren't selling and have been on the market for months!
It's in the interests of both sides of the market to talk up or down the opposing side's position, really. It's prudent to take both sides opinions (including this one) with a dose of skepticism.
There are dreamers in every market really (case in point - people still advertising Speciales for £350k+), but decent cars are moving. In my admittedly limited experience procrastinating on buying these cars doesn't really achieve much besides burning time, the only commodity none of us can buy more of...
I spent far too long irritated by the ever increasing prices of F430 Spiders - to the point where they became unfeasibly expensive to my mind. All the while Ferrari dealers remained steadfast in theirmarket manipulation pricing. I offered what I thought was a reasonable price on one, a bit over the middle of what I knew they'd bought it for (long story - but they gazumped me on it) and what they had it up for, and there was no negotiation. In fairness they knew the market well - and the car sold for what I presume must have been the asking price shortly afterwards.
There isn't in my opinion going to be an awful lot of movement in the prices of 458s while the F430 is propping it up, and there would have to be a pretty significant event in the world of credit & interest rates for the whole market downwards to compress to the point where they lose a lot. While there continues to be uncertainty around the world assets like these will continue to be attractive hedges. Waiting for that mythical RHD £120k 458 is only going to achieve one thing - missing another summer of sun, the likes of which we get very little of in this country, while others who decided that life is too short are out enjoying theirs.
Short version: The prices on these cars aren't going to change dramatically any time soon. They haven't changed for years.
There are dreamers in every market really (case in point - people still advertising Speciales for £350k+), but decent cars are moving. In my admittedly limited experience procrastinating on buying these cars doesn't really achieve much besides burning time, the only commodity none of us can buy more of...
I spent far too long irritated by the ever increasing prices of F430 Spiders - to the point where they became unfeasibly expensive to my mind. All the while Ferrari dealers remained steadfast in their
There isn't in my opinion going to be an awful lot of movement in the prices of 458s while the F430 is propping it up, and there would have to be a pretty significant event in the world of credit & interest rates for the whole market downwards to compress to the point where they lose a lot. While there continues to be uncertainty around the world assets like these will continue to be attractive hedges. Waiting for that mythical RHD £120k 458 is only going to achieve one thing - missing another summer of sun, the likes of which we get very little of in this country, while others who decided that life is too short are out enjoying theirs.
Short version: The prices on these cars aren't going to change dramatically any time soon. They haven't changed for years.
Edited by Durzel on Friday 19th May 12:10
Durzel said:
It's in the interests of both sides of the market to talk up or down the opposing side's position, really. It's prudent to take both sides opinions (including this one) with a dose of skepticism.
There are dreamers in every market really (case in point - people still advertising Speciales for £350k+), but decent cars are moving. In my admittedly limited experience procrastinating on buying these cars doesn't really achieve much besides burning time, the only commodity none of us can buy more of...
I spent far too long irritated by the ever increasing prices of F430 Spiders - to the point where they became unfeasibly expensive to my mind. All the while Ferrari dealers remained steadfast in theirmarket manipulation pricing. I offered what I thought was a reasonable price on one, a bit over the middle of what I knew they'd bought it for (long story - but they gazumped me on it) and what they had it up for, and there was no negotiation. In fairness they knew the market well - and the car sold for what I presume must have been the asking price shortly afterwards.
There isn't in my opinion going to be an awful lot of movement in the prices of 458s while the F430 is propping it up, and there would have to be a pretty significant event in the world of credit & interest rates for the whole market downwards to compress to the point where they lose a lot. While there continues to be uncertainty around the world assets like these will continue to be attractive hedges. Waiting for that mythical RHD £120k 458 is only going to achieve one thing - missing another summer of sun, the likes of which we get very little of in this country, while others who decided that life is too short are out enjoying theirs.
Short version: The prices on these cars aren't going to change dramatically any time soon. They haven't changed for years.
That is sort of my point, you have not had a brexit for years hence prices has not changed. We will have one now which will eventually led to a recession in the U.K and a loss of a lot of wealthy job /people moving out. Hence much higher risk today, although of course I hope I am wrongThere are dreamers in every market really (case in point - people still advertising Speciales for £350k+), but decent cars are moving. In my admittedly limited experience procrastinating on buying these cars doesn't really achieve much besides burning time, the only commodity none of us can buy more of...
I spent far too long irritated by the ever increasing prices of F430 Spiders - to the point where they became unfeasibly expensive to my mind. All the while Ferrari dealers remained steadfast in their
There isn't in my opinion going to be an awful lot of movement in the prices of 458s while the F430 is propping it up, and there would have to be a pretty significant event in the world of credit & interest rates for the whole market downwards to compress to the point where they lose a lot. While there continues to be uncertainty around the world assets like these will continue to be attractive hedges. Waiting for that mythical RHD £120k 458 is only going to achieve one thing - missing another summer of sun, the likes of which we get very little of in this country, while others who decided that life is too short are out enjoying theirs.
Short version: The prices on these cars aren't going to change dramatically any time soon. They haven't changed for years.
Edited by Durzel on Friday 19th May 12:10
Having bought a few cars in Europe and registered here in the uk it's not too complicated and there are people out there who will do it all. Collect, Iva, register and all you need to do is pick the car buy it and tell them where it is.
Having a lhd car gives you two markets to sell in where as rhd is only uk. Added bonus of being able to px a lhd Ferrari at any dealer in Europe if you want a newer car in 5 years.
If your worried about the purchase and inspection side of things there are plenty of main dealer cars to see in Europe.
Having a lhd car gives you two markets to sell in where as rhd is only uk. Added bonus of being able to px a lhd Ferrari at any dealer in Europe if you want a newer car in 5 years.
If your worried about the purchase and inspection side of things there are plenty of main dealer cars to see in Europe.
Brexit or no Brexit...let's revisit this thread in 6 months and see where prices are at...why speculate. There have been so many such threads in the past and there has been no price "correction" as such.
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