Advice on this 355

Advice on this 355

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robsco

Original Poster:

7,826 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th December 2017
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Hello all,

Please see the following ad:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Sold as seen, trade sale... Roof doesn't work, warning lights on dash (but runs ok), also no timing belt change since 2014. It also needs a few cosmetic items attending to. I've been watching it for a couple of months now and it keeps calling out. Its done 97000kms so just over 60000 miles. I'd need to sell both the Cerbera and Tuscan to fund. Financial suicide or worth a punt?

Thanks.


Rari

123 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th December 2017
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Been sale for a while that one. Exterior colour is lovely, I suggest interior is a bit of a marmite one when it comes to a re-sale. 355 are not cheap to put right if they have been neglected, so I suggest you have a specialist go through it making a full report and make your offer accordingly (going in with your eyes wide open).

Cambelts are every 3 years so 2014 makes sense.

Nothing like a fully sorted 355 though hence why I am on my fourth and its becoming tempting at that price (good hedge being a LHD for European market in the future too).......

HIS LM

1,285 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th December 2017
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"Minor prep needed" that being the case why not minor prep it and price it accordingly - I know it's xmas but a car dealer being benevolent - go figure

blueSL

614 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2017
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The price seems attractive but I expect they have looked at the cost of fixing and got cold feet.

The bodywork looks in good shape, the interior looks tired. I agree too that you should get the car assessed by a specialist so that you go in with your eyes open.

I wouldn’t worry about the cam belts. I stretch mine to 4 years so that I alternate between a 2 year minor and 4 year major service.

stuthemong

2,273 posts

217 months

Tuesday 12th December 2017
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Don't forget to hit me up with the cerb if you do it smile

Stu

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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That seems too cheap. "If it looks too good to be true it probably is too good to be true".

If you are tempted I'd get a full geometry check & re-set done by Ferrari + inspection. You'd be amazed at what a difference this makes to F355's and it would confirm if its 'straight'. If it comes back as not being 'straight' you've only lost the cost of inspection.

Hopefully it'll pass and then you will benefit from a better handling car and when the time comes to sell a 'certificate' in the history file worth much more than it cost you.

I bought a 360 last year and did exactly this. The peace of mind was well worth it.

johnnyreggae

2,936 posts

160 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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A light on the dash could be a little thing - or it could be thousands - same applies to the roof not working as its a very complex (and now old) system

Bispal

1,618 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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With the garages consent take it to a nearby specialist like Autofficina and get it checked out. See how much the major stuff will cost and then plan for the rest. Parts are not as expensive as you think, the labour rates can be quite high but generally the cars are not to difficult to work on. If you like the car and it can be put into a good state for a reasonable sum then its worth considering.



red_slr

17,222 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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FWIW the cheaper end of the LHD market is about £60k screen price. I expect sale prices to be a bit less, mid 50s I guess.

I think a full inspection is wise, if there is no accident damage and repairs are going to be <£10k it might be worth a punt.

However I would do a compression test at that mileage. I have seen 355s require engine rebuilds around that mileage and that's going to be IRO £10k.

MDL111

6,920 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I also thought about buying this car - looks quite nice. Although not a fan of the interior.
If the roof does not work, it would not concern me too much - take it down and leave it down permanently :-)

robsco

Original Poster:

7,826 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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MDL111 said:
I also thought about buying this car - looks quite nice. Although not a fan of the interior.
If the roof does not work, it would not concern me too much - take it down and leave it down permanently :-)
Thanks for all the replies thus far - why did you not buy it?

Durzel

12,260 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Trade can't do "sold as seen", so that would put me off immediately.

Also to echo above - if all that's needed is minor prep, why aren't they doing it and reaping a bigger margin? Especially as a trade entity with trade contacts, pricing, etc.

Fresh Prince

527 posts

172 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Durzel said:
Trade can't do "sold as seen", so that would put me off immediately.

Also to echo above - if all that's needed is minor prep, why aren't they doing it and reaping a bigger margin? Especially as a trade entity with trade contacts, pricing, etc.
Me too. I've looked at this car online, thinking to myself that it could be an opportunity to fulfil a childhood dream. But it would already be a stretch at my stage of life, plus at that price it no doubt has some considerable bills within, so that stops me from picking up the phone. In the meantime I hope that if (or when?) I am in a position to get an F355 they don't move further away out of reach price wise.

MDL111

6,920 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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robsco said:
MDL111 said:
I also thought about buying this car - looks quite nice. Although not a fan of the interior.
If the roof does not work, it would not concern me too much - take it down and leave it down permanently :-)
Thanks for all the replies thus far - why did you not buy it?
Nothing to do with the car - I did not even inquire about it - just no money to buy another car right now. Also I really want a road legal 355 Challenge at some point, so have to force meyself to stop buying other cars in the meantime - need to save some money .....

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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"Minor prep required" lol.

I went to see one of their "immaculate as new" cars and it required a major overhaul so go in with your eyes and ears wide open, buyer beware, is all I can say.

F355GTS

3,721 posts

255 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I looked at it and there's no way you'd get it up to the right condition for the right price even if you did it yourself.

As said the roof could cost thousands, light on dash could be new cats, lambdas, exhaust ECU's etc or worse, if it were £25 - £30k ish it might make sense

robsco

Original Poster:

7,826 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Thanks chaps - I’ve been warned off!

rubystone

11,252 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I looked at a similar car a couple of years ago. That car had a grey interior, a very loud exhaust and a hood that didn’t work. It had also been crashed in the UK, registered as Cat D and exported to Germany where it was repaired and then re imported to the UK and re registered...its mileage was also similar to this car’s. At the time I could’ve bought it for the mid thirties. But I didn’t...I think I made the right decision.

sfella

889 posts

108 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Isn't that the dealer that was talked about massively on ph for selling a Porsche that had been totalled and as it went on turned out they knew full well and had refunded several buyers?

sfella

889 posts

108 months