Anyone have a 2011 California & can advise on running costs

[jakesmith]

Ferruccio said:

jakesmith said:

semisane said:

jakesmith said:

fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made

Hi, just wondering which ferraris you have driven / run to come to the conclusion that the Cali is the stupidest car ferrari have ever made ?

Where did I say that?

Er, as above??

No I don't think so. The guy I was referring to has not had a Cali in his garage but a different car that I was referring to
Better luck next time chumps

[semisane]

jakesmith said:

Ferruccio said:

jakesmith said:

semisane said:

jakesmith said:

fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made

Hi, just wondering which ferraris you have driven / run to come to the conclusion that the Cali is the stupidest car ferrari have ever made ?

Where did I say that?

Er, as above??

No I don't think so. The guy I was referring to has not had a Cali in his garage but a different car that I was referring to
Better luck next time chumps

Thanks JS - not sure the rudeness was required, just trying to understand what I though you had said :

I thought you replied to ANOpax -

"... you’ve [ANOpax] added nothing but unpleasantness, fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made"

my bad ?

[murphyaj]

semisane said:

Thanks JS - not sure the rudeness was required, just trying to understand what I though you had said :

I thought you replied to ANOpax -

"... you’ve [ANOpax] added nothing but unpleasantness, fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made"

my bad ?

He's probably referring to the Ferrari FF listed in ANOpax's garage. He could have just said that, but presumably thought just calling you a chump was more effective.

[jakesmith]

semisane said:

Thanks JS - not sure the rudeness was required, just trying to understand what I though you had said :

I thought you replied to ANOpax -

"... you’ve [ANOpax] added nothing but unpleasantness, fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made"

my bad ?

Sorry for any offence caused with the word ‘chump’, there should be no safe haven on the internet for such vile profanity, it cheapens the debate and lowers the tone. I hope you get over it soon.

[semisane]

jakesmith said:

semisane said:

Thanks JS - not sure the rudeness was required, just trying to understand what I though you had said :

I thought you replied to ANOpax -

"... you’ve [ANOpax] added nothing but unpleasantness, fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made"

my bad ?

Sorry for any offence caused with the word ‘chump’, there should be no safe haven on the internet for such vile profanity, it cheapens the debate and lowers the tone. I hope you get over it soon.

Thanks JS, worry not, nothing to get over - goes with the [PH] territory sadly - many use rudeness and name calling to deflect away from the discussion.

Back to the question at hand...... are you able to clarify your comments re ferrari california ?

Genuinely interested

[jakesmith]

semisane said:

jakesmith said:

semisane said:

Thanks JS - not sure the rudeness was required, just trying to understand what I though you had said :

I thought you replied to ANOpax -

"... you’ve [ANOpax] added nothing but unpleasantness, fuelled by a sense of importance presumably derived from owning the stupidest car Ferrari have ever made"

my bad ?

Sorry for any offence caused with the word ‘chump’, there should be no safe haven on the internet for such vile profanity, it cheapens the debate and lowers the tone. I hope you get over it soon.

Thanks JS, worry not, nothing to get over - goes with the [PH] territory sadly - many use rudeness and name calling to deflect away from the discussion.

Back to the question at hand...... are you able to clarify your comments re ferrari california ?

Genuinely interested

Well of course, but first, some background for context if I may - please excuse the long read but what with it being Friday pm I hope you have a quiet moment perhaps on a train home to read this.

OP asked about experiences from owners of a Cali. I had contributed as I had recently been at an indi garage, having my Maserati repaired where they were rebuilding the engine of a Cali and I had a long conversation with the garage's owner at the time about what the rebuild involved, the cause of the issue and the cost vs the cost of a new replacement (which is how Ferarri main dealer had proposed fixing the car). I shared some of this info, which I felt was relevant as it gives an idea of the rebuild / replacement cost of a Cali engine, and the fact that they can fail (as all engines can I guess) to a prospective new purchaser.

ANOpax then joined this discussion simply to criticise posters, including myself, who had contributed to the thread despite not owning an Cali. Despite it being part of the OP's opening post that he was asking owners about running costs, I felt that my experience was worth sharing and appologise profusely if it were not.

I found this intervention a little off as it is an open forum and I felt my contribution was relevant, and even if not, what is the harm, I was hardly advising the OP to try a new Mondeo instead. I also found it hypocritical that ANOrax made this comment as, upon inspecting his garage, whilst he has indeed owned 2 Ferraris, he also has not owned a Cali.

I made this point and from memory he then challenged my entire right to post on the supercars part of Pistonheads, presumably as I only own a R8 which many on here consider not to be a supercar, a view which I have some sympathy with incidentally. However, my car really is irrelevant as this is a public forum that anyone can join and post on

Anyway, there was a bit of to and fro, from memory I was bored at a work event during some of it, and as a retort against the hypocrisy, the denigration of my beloved car, and the arrogance of challenging my right to post on any supercar topic, I made some childish comments referring to his FF and comparing its looks to those of a BMW hatch back, and also calling it a stupid car, which, having seen one today in my local station car park, having not seen one for a few years, were slightly unfair and which I partially withdraw. It was childish but as you say, it is Pistonheads and I felt the guy had been mildly out of order so that's what informed my subequent attitude towards him I am certain he is a very nice man and bear him no ill will.

Anyway, I do hope this goes some way to clear the matter up and explain the comment that you didn't understand, and if you do have any further questions, feedback, or contribution to make, please do not hesitate

Thanks

Edited by jakesmith on Friday 18th October 16:48

Edited by jakesmith on Friday 18th October 16:51

[h0b0]

Well, we seem to have scared the OP away and they have probably ended up with a Chrysler Town and Country (remember the posh one) for its practicality but not the GPS performance. The “stow and go” seating are something to behold.

[355spiderguy]

jw673 said:

Assuming adding to this thread isn't now the preserve of children and/or those on the spectrum

Pistonheads...you gota love it.

[jakesmith]

355spiderguy said:

Pistonheads...you gota love it.

“This thread is crap, full of idiots / mentally ill people”
“I know I’ll bump it rather that letting it die”

[vanman1936]

So back to the topic, do people (as in current or previous owners) rate the Cali....certainly on my list along with the FF....?

[ANOpax]

Horses for courses.

The FF is great for covering long distances in comfort and style with a supreme level of handling. However, there is no disguising its weight and size so it loses out where smaller and more nimble cars will win. That all changes when conditions get wet or slippery - something you’ll be aware of with your Porsche experience. The 4WD traction means it will keep up with their engine V8s in those conditions. It’s an everyday useable Ferrari.

The Cali is also an everyday useable Ferrari - but its strength is that its looks aren’t as polarising. It may not as powerful, quick, aurally pleasing or versatile (in terms of space) as the FF but its trump card is the roof and the luggage space compared to the mid engine V8s.

[jakesmith]

ANOpax said:

Horses for courses.

The FF is great for covering long distances in comfort and style with a supreme level of handling. However, there is no disguising its weight and size so it loses out where smaller and more nimble cars will win. That all changes when conditions get wet or slippery - something you’ll be aware of with your Porsche experience. The 4WD traction means it will keep up with their engine V8s in those conditions. It’s an everyday useable Ferrari.

The Cali is also an everyday useable Ferrari - but its strength is that its looks aren’t as polarising. It may not as powerful, quick, aurally pleasing or versatile (in terms of space) as the FF but its trump card is the roof and the luggage space compared to the mid engine V8s.

You’ve owned a Cali now then?

[ANOpax]

jakesmith said:

You’ve owned a Cali now then?

Yup!

[jakesmith]

ANOpax said:

jakesmith said:

You’ve owned a Cali now then?

Yup!

The measures some people will take to make a point never cease to amaze me!
Enjoy your car!

[ANOpax]

jakesmith said:

The measures some people will take to make a point never cease to amaze me!
Enjoy your car!

Cheers Jake

[laeumh]

Does anyone know the cost of a Ferrari warranty for an older Cali, say 2009, and are there any aftermarket warranties that can actually be relied on ?

[ANOpax]

Best check with your Ferrari dealer but in Europe the New Power Warranty is €5k. It also isn’t particularly comprehensive as it only covers major engine and drivetrain failure. Leaking gaskets and broken linkages don’t count.