Another Ferrari itch to scratch - 360 Modena
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I had my 360 over six years with no issues. Mine was a 2000 year and the F1 box always overheated in traffic. I upgraded to the cs tcu, so wouldn’t discount this as long as you do the upgrade.
I had the Ferrari racing exhaust, so the noise and downshifts were amazing. Only weakness was the silencer having loose baffles, so removed it before selling. Having now fixed it I will be selling soon.
I had the Ferrari racing exhaust, so the noise and downshifts were amazing. Only weakness was the silencer having loose baffles, so removed it before selling. Having now fixed it I will be selling soon.
I had my 2000-F1 since 2012, it is an amazing car and I don’t intend to ever sell it 
I tested manual and F1 and went for an F1, one of the reason being it’s easier and faster to select the right RPM when you want some nice noise (like passing in a tunnel). I have the original exhaust.
Granted, the F1 is a bit jerky sometimes, and going in reverse on a slope is supposed to eat your clutch...I even made some laps with it, incredibly fun, but the brakes stopped working each time they were too hot.
Over 8 years it costed me a lot I must say (clutch, gearbox, sticky buttons, paint, exhaust, etc), but it does not matter....
I tested manual and F1 and went for an F1, one of the reason being it’s easier and faster to select the right RPM when you want some nice noise (like passing in a tunnel). I have the original exhaust.
Granted, the F1 is a bit jerky sometimes, and going in reverse on a slope is supposed to eat your clutch...I even made some laps with it, incredibly fun, but the brakes stopped working each time they were too hot.
Over 8 years it costed me a lot I must say (clutch, gearbox, sticky buttons, paint, exhaust, etc), but it does not matter....
ANOpax said:
To the O/P,
If you have the budget for an F430, you need to try it before you decide which is for you. There’s no right or wrong answer as many here will attest - there are pluses and minuses for both cars and only you can decide which one works best for you.
And definitely give the F1 box a go. The detractors of the F1 are only people who expect it to drive like a slushbox or DCT. It is neither. Treat it like what it is; a robotised manual and you’ll be rewarded with an involving driving experience (arguably much more of an experience than the DCT gives you).
Yes I could run to an 430, but not a 430 manual, hence exploring the 360 route. Sounds like I do need to try the F1 box though - it would certainly give me more choices of cars to run. If you have the budget for an F430, you need to try it before you decide which is for you. There’s no right or wrong answer as many here will attest - there are pluses and minuses for both cars and only you can decide which one works best for you.
And definitely give the F1 box a go. The detractors of the F1 are only people who expect it to drive like a slushbox or DCT. It is neither. Treat it like what it is; a robotised manual and you’ll be rewarded with an involving driving experience (arguably much more of an experience than the DCT gives you).
Thanks
SpookyTheFirst said:
I had my 2000-F1 since 2012, it is an amazing car and I don’t intend to ever sell it
I tested manual and F1 and went for an F1, one of the reason being it’s easier and faster to select the right RPM when you want some nice noise (like passing in a tunnel). I have the original exhaust.
Granted, the F1 is a bit jerky sometimes, and going in reverse on a slope is supposed to eat your clutch...I even made some laps with it, incredibly fun, but the brakes stopped working each time they were too hot.
Over 8 years it costed me a lot I must say (clutch, gearbox, sticky buttons, paint, exhaust, etc), but it does not matter....
Gorgeous looking car with the tan interior and sports seats!I tested manual and F1 and went for an F1, one of the reason being it’s easier and faster to select the right RPM when you want some nice noise (like passing in a tunnel). I have the original exhaust.
Granted, the F1 is a bit jerky sometimes, and going in reverse on a slope is supposed to eat your clutch...I even made some laps with it, incredibly fun, but the brakes stopped working each time they were too hot.
Over 8 years it costed me a lot I must say (clutch, gearbox, sticky buttons, paint, exhaust, etc), but it does not matter....
nudgerwilliams said:
ANOpax said:
To the O/P,
If you have the budget for an F430, you need to try it before you decide which is for you. There’s no right or wrong answer as many here will attest - there are pluses and minuses for both cars and only you can decide which one works best for you.
And definitely give the F1 box a go. The detractors of the F1 are only people who expect it to drive like a slushbox or DCT. It is neither. Treat it like what it is; a robotised manual and you’ll be rewarded with an involving driving experience (arguably much more of an experience than the DCT gives you).
Yes I could run to an 430, but not a 430 manual, hence exploring the 360 route. Sounds like I do need to try the F1 box though - it would certainly give me more choices of cars to run. If you have the budget for an F430, you need to try it before you decide which is for you. There’s no right or wrong answer as many here will attest - there are pluses and minuses for both cars and only you can decide which one works best for you.
And definitely give the F1 box a go. The detractors of the F1 are only people who expect it to drive like a slushbox or DCT. It is neither. Treat it like what it is; a robotised manual and you’ll be rewarded with an involving driving experience (arguably much more of an experience than the DCT gives you).
Thanks
All personal opinion of course, but whist I could run to an F430, I really have never looked the looks whereas for me the 360's rounded body looks a lot more sleek and easy on the eye.
I have (briefly) considered going down the F355 route, but in all honesty I am completely put off by the morrow stories of the running costs. The 360 seems like a bit of a cheeky sweet spot between the other 2 cars (which I suppose is what it is!)
PhantomPH said:
I have (briefly) considered going down the F355 route, but in all honesty I am completely put off by the morrow stories of the running costs. The 360 seems like a bit of a cheeky sweet spot between the other 2 cars (which I suppose is what it is!)
Don’t dismiss the F355. You only hear about the horror stories - never the good ones. I ran one for 3 years with no issues other than a faulty spark plug. ANOpax said:
PhantomPH said:
I have (briefly) considered going down the F355 route, but in all honesty I am completely put off by the morrow stories of the running costs. The 360 seems like a bit of a cheeky sweet spot between the other 2 cars (which I suppose is what it is!)
Don’t dismiss the F355. You only hear about the horror stories - never the good ones. I ran one for 3 years with no issues other than a faulty spark plug. PhantomPH said:
Like I say, the potential for big bills seems higher, but I don't doubt that they are largely pretty good. Servicing bills seem higher tho - engine out for belts etc?
Engine out is every 3-5 years depending on whether you stick to the Euro or US servicing schedules. The fact that the engine comes out means that most cars are pretty well sorted and by now they should all have had valve guides and manifolds replaced.
360s can throw up big bills with variator failures and ditto the F430 with manifolds. They both eat suspension ball joints - even the Hill engineering ones.
None of them are perfect but if you do your research and go in eyes open and plan for the worst, you can’t be disappointed!
ANOpax said:
PhantomPH said:
Like I say, the potential for big bills seems higher, but I don't doubt that they are largely pretty good. Servicing bills seem higher tho - engine out for belts etc?
Engine out is every 3-5 years depending on whether you stick to the Euro or US servicing schedules. The fact that the engine comes out means that most cars are pretty well sorted and by now they should all have had valve guides and manifolds replaced.
360s can throw up big bills with variator failures and ditto the F430 with manifolds. They both eat suspension ball joints - even the Hill engineering ones.
None of them are perfect but if you do your research and go in eyes open and plan for the worst, you can’t be disappointed!
Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
PhantomPH said:
ANOpax said:
PhantomPH said:
Like I say, the potential for big bills seems higher, but I don't doubt that they are largely pretty good. Servicing bills seem higher tho - engine out for belts etc?
Engine out is every 3-5 years depending on whether you stick to the Euro or US servicing schedules. The fact that the engine comes out means that most cars are pretty well sorted and by now they should all have had valve guides and manifolds replaced.
360s can throw up big bills with variator failures and ditto the F430 with manifolds. They both eat suspension ball joints - even the Hill engineering ones.
None of them are perfect but if you do your research and go in eyes open and plan for the worst, you can’t be disappointed!
Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
I bought mine from an independent specialist who offerred a 12 month warranty and went through the car with a tooth comb before I collected it.
ANOpax said:
360s can throw up big bills with variator failures and ditto the F430 with manifolds.
Although it does happen, I think the variator failure on the 360 is a lot less common than the 430 manifolds. Gearbox heat exchanger is probably a bigger concern.Porsche's seem to attract very little attention these days (at least around here), so most things that fall into the supercar camp will attract more.
Colour makes a difference - my Grigio 360 got a lot less attention than my red 348, and although it still did attract attention was probably only slightly more than my AM Vantage at the time.
I still think 360s are brilliant cars, perfect blend of power and weight for real use on the road, and a superb sound too.
PhantomPH said:
For all the research I've done I still get nervous when I see adverts on this site that proclaim 'Recent £13k service' like it's a positive...just makes me think, "Christ...the wife would have my balls in the kitchen drawer". Ha ha.
Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
The main reason I sold my 360 , the attention and my wife not enjoying it with me because of that, but you know I would have another one in a flash, but not in this present climate, and folks say well don’t buy red but for me it has to be red all the way.Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
I’ve recently sold mine after 8 years. Non-red F1 and it’s still sat in a dealership outside London which makes me a bit sad.
Lovely, lovely cars but I’ll still my neck out and say that now they’re nearing 20 years old, they’re one of the more expensive Ferraris to own/maintain. Keeping the suspension perfect is a forth bridge job and you can easily drop several £k on a service for a car that’s had a lot of deferred maintenance. F1 box on my car drove beautifully at all speeds, even reversing up hill.
Mine was reliable and never had any issues but I spent £2.5k a year on it over the 8 years keeping it right and a few sensible upgrades. Buy of good car from a reputable specialist and you’ll not go far wrong.
Lovely, lovely cars but I’ll still my neck out and say that now they’re nearing 20 years old, they’re one of the more expensive Ferraris to own/maintain. Keeping the suspension perfect is a forth bridge job and you can easily drop several £k on a service for a car that’s had a lot of deferred maintenance. F1 box on my car drove beautifully at all speeds, even reversing up hill.
Mine was reliable and never had any issues but I spent £2.5k a year on it over the 8 years keeping it right and a few sensible upgrades. Buy of good car from a reputable specialist and you’ll not go far wrong.
Roof down said:
PhantomPH said:
For all the research I've done I still get nervous when I see adverts on this site that proclaim 'Recent £13k service' like it's a positive...just makes me think, "Christ...the wife would have my balls in the kitchen drawer". Ha ha.
Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
The main reason I sold my 360 , the attention and my wife not enjoying it with me because of that, but you know I would have another one in a flash, but not in this present climate, and folks say well don’t buy red but for me it has to be red all the way.Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
Mine was the same and not at all keen. She REALLY doesn't like my ideas for a ithaca verde Murcielago.
The first time we went out she felt very conspicuous and not at all happy. But not being red means we get very little attention, it just seems to go unnoticed. Which suits me fine and keeps her happy.
Just taken the 360 for a quick spin as its been sat on the drive doing nothing for 2 weeks. Its a bloody good car! Its sat outside (whilst I sort the garage) for 2 weeks and some very very wet weather. Started immediately and ran like a dream. Wondering why I didn't buy one sooner. Revs to 8000rpm so quickly and sweetly, but can trundle along at 40mph behind Mildred taking her cat to the vet with no issues, the instant the road opens out and you can pass its feels so much more rapid than my Evora did, even though they are very similar on paper.
I am lucky living in the Cotswolds, great roads on my door step.
Back to work now
I am lucky living in the Cotswolds, great roads on my door step.
Back to work now
supersport said:
Roof down said:
PhantomPH said:
For all the research I've done I still get nervous when I see adverts on this site that proclaim 'Recent £13k service' like it's a positive...just makes me think, "Christ...the wife would have my balls in the kitchen drawer". Ha ha.
Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
The main reason I sold my 360 , the attention and my wife not enjoying it with me because of that, but you know I would have another one in a flash, but not in this present climate, and folks say well don’t buy red but for me it has to be red all the way.Speaking of which, she is actually my biggest barrier to purchase at the minute. She thinks the 360 (or any Ferrari) is too 'flash'. The irony being that she has no problem at all with my Porsches and has no issue with me considering dropping c.£80k on a 718 Spyder, but when I say I really want to scratch this itch - at c.£60k - she thinks it's far too flash and is really not keen. And since I'm under the thumb...
Mine was the same and not at all keen. She REALLY doesn't like my ideas for a ithaca verde Murcielago.
The first time we went out she felt very conspicuous and not at all happy. But not being red means we get very little attention, it just seems to go unnoticed. Which suits me fine and keeps her happy.
SWMBO loves the (old) 911 I own and hasn’t an issue ..... but a Ferrari, which would cost just about the same as the 911 is worth .... well that’s just an utter waste of money and especially so in red as everyone would be staring at us in it..... go figure.
Personally I’m swinging now (on the QT) to a 355 and a LHD as I pop over to Europe a couple of times a year to the Pyrenees for a week of blasting around the mountains so that’s where I do most of my free time mileage.
I’m actually quite tempted by a LHD 348 (blimey 10 years ago I’d never had said that) ..... but worry that it just won’t be quick enough compared to the 911 .
Love the 360 and it makes way more sense but I kind of love old skool cars more...... decisions decisions
Edited by Wozy68 on Wednesday 7th October 17:27
At the risk of sounding like PH is a nice place (heaven forbid!!) it's quite refreshing to see others admit to the same marital considerations without being jumped on by other forum members. 
A poster about said about his 'wife not enjoying it with him'. This is the key, really. I like sharing things I'm passionate about with my wife and to know she would not really want any part of the Ferrari is definitely something that is a consideration. I joke about being under the thumb - I'm actually not...just in a marriage where we respect what each other thinks. Crazy!!! Ha ha.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand - I have completely ruled out red as a colour choice. Have seen a couple of nice Grigio derivatives, Nero and there's currently a lovely looking TDF one up for sale on this site. I am in no way going to rush into anything - the only thing which niggles a little on timescales is that I think the market for the 360 is picking up and the increased demand will see prices start to creep upwards over the next few months.
A poster about said about his 'wife not enjoying it with him'. This is the key, really. I like sharing things I'm passionate about with my wife and to know she would not really want any part of the Ferrari is definitely something that is a consideration. I joke about being under the thumb - I'm actually not...just in a marriage where we respect what each other thinks. Crazy!!! Ha ha.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand - I have completely ruled out red as a colour choice. Have seen a couple of nice Grigio derivatives, Nero and there's currently a lovely looking TDF one up for sale on this site. I am in no way going to rush into anything - the only thing which niggles a little on timescales is that I think the market for the 360 is picking up and the increased demand will see prices start to creep upwards over the next few months.
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