Verde Zeltweg 360 on PH

Verde Zeltweg 360 on PH

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rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Thursday 22nd October 2020
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Slippydiff said:
jtremlett said:
robsco said:
As a newcomer then, why are these cars, which seem super desirable at first glance, hanging around so long? I expected with the Ferrari brand you’d have a queue of people wanting to buy a genuine car.
Ultimately it must be down to price surely? Anything will sell if the price is right. That said, sometimes cars hang around and then people think they haven't sold because there must be a story (which sometimes there is and sometimes there isn't).
Colour, spec, mileage AND price, are all key. TDF blue is a stunning colour, but it's also high maintenance.
I specifically wanted a car which wasn't "resale red", but I also wanted a car with ceramic brakes and the carbon fibre seats.
The colour was acceptable, the mileage likewise, but the lack of the correct seats was deal breaker for me.
Know exactly what you mean,my seats are like armchairs,feel and look to big for the interior,

Tried to buy one with the sports seats previously but couldn't get together on p/ex price and was even willing to swallow that the mileage was double to the one i ended up with.

Roll on 2 years plus later a high end dealer no more than 6 miles from me now has a F430 with the sports seats in the same colour for sale with half the mileage of mine at less money,but you can't wait forever. Maybe there will be some on E Bay one day.

robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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I have provisionally agreed a deal on the TDF F430 and am thoroughly looking forward to collection!

blueg33

35,766 posts

224 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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robsco said:
I have provisionally agreed a deal on the TDF F430 and am thoroughly looking forward to collection!
Congratulations - looks like a great car

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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robsco said:
I have provisionally agreed a deal on the TDF F430 and am thoroughly looking forward to collection!
Well done, Nicks one of the good guys, sold him a Vetroresina GTB more years ago than i care to remember when he first started his business , Enjoy !thumbup

robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Thank you, it is made slightly bittersweet by the fact the Morgan has to make way. But then we can always buy another in the future.

sundayjumper

529 posts

282 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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robsco said:
Hi all,

Does anybody know this car? It appears to have been for sale for an age. I assume down to colour combo which is an acquired taste but I happen to love, particularly as it would match our QP. Anyone who knows the car, or has perhaps viewed? It’s 8 hour round trip from me. Thanks in advance.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/7375856
FWIW, I viewed this car in June 2017. Long before its respray. It felt tired.

I wasn't actually there to look at it, I was there to look at an Aston. The Aston looked lovely but absolutely STANK of cigarettes and the guy didn't seem very bothered. I was also interested in a Noble they had, but that was incredibly rough.

Despite the cigarette smell I arranged to come back the following weekend to drive the Aston. I turned up at the agreed time and nobody was there. It's just a barn on a farm next to the A3. No answer on their phone. Bloke eventually turns up about half an hour late by which time I needed to leave because I had other commitments.

So no idea if the 360 in question is any good, but it probably looks nice now it's been resprayed.

I ended up buying an Aston from Clinkard in Romsey, and they were fab. Still got it, and it's a keeper. But I'd like to add a 360 to the fold at some point...

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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robsco said:
I have provisionally agreed a deal on the TDF F430 and am thoroughly looking forward to collection!
Noticed Nick has just re-advertised the TDF F430 and reduced it a staggering £10k, Is there a problem with it
or did you end up with the 360 after all.

Edited by rat rod on Saturday 7th November 03:03

robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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rat rod said:
robsco said:
I have provisionally agreed a deal on the TDF F430 and am thoroughly looking forward to collection!
Noticed Nick has just re-advertised the TDF F430 and reduced it a staggering £10k, Is there a problem with it
or did you end up with the 360 after all.

Edited by rat rod on Saturday 7th November 03:03
Hi, it hasn’t been reduced from the price I originally saw it at, and the deal is still going ahead. We are just waiting on the final bits of prep to be finished. Ben sent me a teaser shot of his progress yesterday.


robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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sundayjumper said:
robsco said:
Hi all,

Does anybody know this car? It appears to have been for sale for an age. I assume down to colour combo which is an acquired taste but I happen to love, particularly as it would match our QP. Anyone who knows the car, or has perhaps viewed? It’s 8 hour round trip from me. Thanks in advance.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/7375856
FWIW, I viewed this car in June 2017. Long before its respray. It felt tired.

I wasn't actually there to look at it, I was there to look at an Aston. The Aston looked lovely but absolutely STANK of cigarettes and the guy didn't seem very bothered. I was also interested in a Noble they had, but that was incredibly rough.

Despite the cigarette smell I arranged to come back the following weekend to drive the Aston. I turned up at the agreed time and nobody was there. It's just a barn on a farm next to the A3. No answer on their phone. Bloke eventually turns up about half an hour late by which time I needed to leave because I had other commitments.

So no idea if the 360 in question is any good, but it probably looks nice now it's been resprayed.

I ended up buying an Aston from Clinkard in Romsey, and they were fab. Still got it, and it's a keeper. But I'd like to add a 360 to the fold at some point...
Yes, that’s pretty much the same experience I had with the seller. We had discussed the car a couple of days prior to my bid to buy unseen of 64k. His attitude left a lot to be desired from the first conversation. I spoke with him one Sunday early evening for his views on my offer and he was exceedingly rude. I didn’t speak with him again.

All’s well that ends well though. I am extremely impressed with how the sale of the 430 has been handled so far. Nick and Ben have been polite and accommodating, no airs and graces, just two genuine Ferrari enthusiasts. Yes the car is not a manual, like I’d hoped my first Ferrari would be, but I can live with that.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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robsco said:
Hi, it hasn’t been reduced from the price I originally saw it at, and the deal is still going ahead. We are just waiting on the final bits of prep to be finished. Ben sent me a teaser shot of his progress yesterday.

No wonder you are buying the 430 instead of the 360 at that price,The car was in the 80's when Nick first advertised it then reduced it £79k,
Must admit to not seeing it at the reduced price of £69k, Lucky you waited for a while longer, sounds like you have had a result and
buying it from proper people as well.

I was in the same position as you ,looking for a manual 360 as i didn't won't F1 after being let down on a high spec in the exact colour i wanted 360 manual every thing else i looked at missed the boat, So dug a bit deeper and ended up with a F430 as well, at the time a manual
low mileage 430 was some £20/£30k more.

To be honest i don't get on with it that well think it's me not the car as my son drives it fine. Wish i had waited as i could now get a manual for what i paid but that was 2 1/2 years ago .

robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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rat rod said:
robsco said:
Hi, it hasn’t been reduced from the price I originally saw it at, and the deal is still going ahead. We are just waiting on the final bits of prep to be finished. Ben sent me a teaser shot of his progress yesterday.

No wonder you are buying the 430 instead of the 360 at that price,The car was in the 80's when Nick first advertised it then reduced it £79k,
Must admit to not seeing it at the reduced price of £69k, Lucky you waited for a while longer, sounds like you have had a result and
buying it from proper people as well.

I was in the same position as you ,looking for a manual 360 as i didn't won't F1 after being let down on a high spec in the exact colour i wanted 360 manual every thing else i looked at missed the boat, So dug a bit deeper and ended up with a F430 as well, at the time a manual
low mileage 430 was some £20/£30k more.

To be honest i don't get on with it that well think it's me not the car as my son drives it fine. Wish i had waited as i could now get a manual for what i paid but that was 2 1/2 years ago .
Car should be with me today or tomorrow, though I don't think it will be getting any use in this weather. I'm expecting the car to be a much sharper, more engaging, harder version of my old and much missed 4200 Cambiocorsa... I guess at five times the price, it should be! As ever, I don't drive them until they arrive.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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robsco said:
Car should be with me today or tomorrow, though I don't think it will be getting any use in this weather. I'm expecting the car to be a much sharper, more engaging, harder version of my old and much missed 4200 Cambiocorsa... I guess at five times the price, it should be! As ever, I don't drive them until they arrive.
You won't be disappointed driving And it's not red !

supersport

4,050 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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I really wanted a manual 360, but am very happy with 430 F1.

It's fine, a little odd in those moments when you negotiate a junction where the traffic almost stops and then goes. But I really enjoy it out on the open road.

Enjoy, just a shame it's so manky at the moment. It always amazes me how quickly the roads get so manky.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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supersport said:
I really wanted a manual 360, but am very happy with 430 F1.

It's fine, a little odd in those moments when you negotiate a junction where the traffic almost stops and then goes. But I really enjoy it out on the open road.

Enjoy, just a shame it's so manky at the moment. It always amazes me how quickly the roads get so manky.
Being semi modern unlike the classic Ferrari's they are usable in winter months but best kept to main roads rather than the muddy lanes that never seem to dry out , Build quality is surprisingly strong and not made of chocolate but maybe not quite up to Porsche standards.

Interestingly you have the same moments where i do , think it's just a case of practice as i don't get to drive it as much as i should ,
Watching my son banging it up and down through the box puts me to shame, It's case of what you are used to, just doesn't come naturally.
Old dog new tricks and all that.

yzr500

204 posts

103 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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[quote= rat rod]
Build quality is surprisingly strong and not made of chocolate----- except the steering ball-joints

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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yzr500 said:
rat rod said:
Build quality is surprisingly strong and not made of chocolate----- except the steering ball-joints
+1

robsco

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7,823 posts

176 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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The car arrived today, everything I'd hoped it would be. Beautifully presented thanks to the efforts of Ben and everyone else at Nick Cartwright. The sun has been out today and even the roads dried up a little so I did take the car out for 20 minutes this evening, and what an experience. It feels truly special, and I can most certainly live with that gearbox.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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robsco said:
The car arrived today, everything I'd hoped it would be. Beautifully presented thanks to the efforts of Ben and everyone else at Nick Cartwright. The sun has been out today and even the roads dried up a little so I did take the car out for 20 minutes this evening, and what an experience. It feels truly special, and I can most certainly live with that gearbox.
Now not so painful to part with the Morgan, unless we have a heatwave in the summer.thumbup