Speciale vs. Pista : which should I buy ?

[RSVP911]

Quick question - if you buy privately and there is warranty outstanding on a Speciale can the warranty be transferred to the new owner ? Thanks

[garystoybox]

RSVP911 said:

Quick question - if you buy privately and there is warranty outstanding on a Speciale can the warranty be transferred to the new owner ? Thanks

Yes, the warranty is ‘on the car’ and is transferred on sale (assuming we are talking about the official Ferrari warranty).

[RSVP911]

garystoybox said:

Yes, the warranty is ‘on the car’ and is transferred on sale (assuming we are talking about the official Ferrari warranty).

Cheers - just need to find the “right” car now

[Djit]

If buying from a dealer (franchised or specialist independent), I would suggest you ask them to purchase a renewed Ferrari warranty and if buying private, negotiate the cost of a warranty into a discount on the deal. Also the late registered Speciales still have a couple of inclusive services left so if going for an early car, remember to factor that in too!

[RSVP911]

Djit said:

If buying from a dealer (franchised or specialist independent), I would suggest you ask them to purchase a renewed Ferrari warranty and if buying private, negotiate the cost of a warranty into a discount on the deal. Also the late registered Speciales still have a couple of inclusive services left so if going for an early car, remember to factor that in too!

Cheers, thanks

[RSVP911]

Anyone have any rough idea of insurance cost for a Speciale ? Decent post code, 1,000 miles a year , clean licence, over 50 etc ? Cheers

[stefan1]

RSVP911 said:

Anyone have any rough idea of insurance cost for a Speciale ? Decent post code, 1,000 miles a year , clean licence, over 50 etc ? Cheers

Mine is £1,700 - v similar profile to you. It is part of a high-end multi-car policy (agreed value, some track cover etc.), so probably upper end of range. Pretty decent given what car is insured for.

[griff7]

I insured mine with NFU with agreed value and similar details and it was just under £1000.

[RSVP911]

Thanks both on insurance info - better than I thought to be honest.

Off at a tangent - ignoring the debate about value / usability : from a technical perspective only, would anyone be put off by a virtually zero miles car that had been serviced every year - engine turned over every so odd often ? (not fluids our dry store)

I plan to use the car - not an investment.

Thanks

Edited by RSVP911 on Monday 8th February 20:09

[griff7]

RSVP911 said:

Thanks both on insurance info - better than I thought to be honest.

Off at a tangent - ignoring the debate about value / usability : from a technical perspective only, would anyone be put off by a virtually zero miles car that had been serviced every year - engine turned over every so odd often ? (not fluids our dry store)

I plan to use the car - not an investment.

Thanks

Edited by RSVP911 on Monday 8th February 20:09

Absolutely not as long as the yearly services have been done and it has been dry stored.Everything should be like brand new still including all the hoses and if it is going to have a Ferrari warranty then as you say just use it.
I took mine to the Nurburgring and Spa but the smoothness of Spa is where it felt amazing.The Cup 2 tyres were very good but it would have been good to try a more track focused tyre.

[RSVP911]

griff7 said:

Absolutely not as long as the yearly services have been done and it has been dry stored.Everything should be like brand new still including all the hoses and if it is going to have a Ferrari warranty then as you say just use it.
I took mine to the Nurburgring and Spa but the smoothness of Spa is where it felt amazing.The Cup 2 tyres were very good but it would have been good to try a more track focused tyre.

Thanks- when you say dry stored - it was in proper storage but the fluids were left in the car - is that ok ?

[griff7]

Yes fine.

[RSVP911]

griff7 said:

Yes fine.

Cheers

[jonny finance]

griff7 said:

Yes fine.

I’d agree 100%. It’s not old enough to raise concern. I’ve recently purchased a 30+ year old Ferrari that had near delivery miles only. The car having received nigh on £30k expenditure re necessary mechanical recommissioning ! Without this, I most certainly would of stopped in my tracks re lack of use/storage etc.

[RSVP911]

Quick update - saw a Pista and Speciale side by side and tbh I prefer the Speciale - a more elegant looking thing. On start up the Spec sounded better but not by very much - can’t find a Speciale that I like though

I have to say I keep looking at 488 Spyders - I know I’m going off piste but there’s a lot to like - covers a lot of bases as a leisure car & have already had a massive hit depreciation wise - much cheaper to own than a Pista, that’s for sure

Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 13th February 15:39

[LordOfTheManor]

Try find one at a reasonable price. its going to be cheaper to pick up a F8 spyder in the long run

[Taffy66]

RSVP911 said:

Quick update - saw a Pista and Speciale side by side and tbh I prefer the Speciale - a more elegant looking thing. On start up the Spec sounded better but not by very much - can’t find a Speciale that I like though

I have to say I keep looking at 488 Spyders - I know I’m going off piste but there’s a lot to like - covers a lot of bases as a leisure car & have already had a massive hit depreciation wise - much cheaper to own than a Pista, that’s for sure

Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 13th February 15:39

Apart from saving a huge wad of cash normal 488s are much less flamboyant compared to Pistas. Mine is in Grigio Ferro and with no silly OTT stripes i only get postive reaction from other road users.
Another point worth making is that the F8 will be a very short run car and as a consequence much rarer than the supposedly rare Pista.! Smart money will buy a very high spec F8 at just over £200K IMO. Chris Harris thinks its a much better car than the Pista FWIW. Just avoid buying a new one but at £50k below list price a great car for the money. I've driven one for an hour long testdrive and its a brilliant car.

[lowndes]

As it so happens, I too have spent some time this lockdown looking at Pista and Speciale, to the point where I was coming close to making a bid on a very nicely specced car. At that point I decided I would need more practice in catching falling knives and with that in mind I have decided to lose money elsewhere. As Phil Esterhaus would say, "Let's be careful out there."

[RSVP911]

Taffy66 said:

RSVP911 said:

Quick update - saw a Pista and Speciale side by side and tbh I prefer the Speciale - a more elegant looking thing. On start up the Spec sounded better but not by very much - can’t find a Speciale that I like though

I have to say I keep looking at 488 Spyders - I know I’m going off piste but there’s a lot to like - covers a lot of bases as a leisure car & have already had a massive hit depreciation wise - much cheaper to own than a Pista, that’s for sure

Edited by RSVP911 on Saturday 13th February 15:39

Apart from saving a huge wad of cash normal 488s are much less flamboyant compared to Pistas. Mine is in Grigio Ferro and with no silly OTT stripes i only get postive reaction from other road users.
Another point worth making is that the F8 will be a very short run car and as a consequence much rarer than the supposedly rare Pista.! Smart money will buy a very high spec F8 at just over £200K IMO. Chris Harris thinks its a much better car than the Pista FWIW. Just avoid buying a new one but at £50k below list price a great car for the money. I've driven one for an hour long testdrive and its a brilliant car.

What have you got Taffy - coupe or Spyder ? (Like Grigio Ferro btw)

[RSVP911]

lowndes said:

As it so happens, I too have spent some time this lockdown looking at Pista and Speciale, to the point where I was coming close to making a bid on a very nicely specced car. At that point I decided I would need more practice in catching falling knives and with that in mind I have decided to lose money elsewhere. As Phil Esterhaus would say, "Let's be careful out there."

Would you have gone Pista or Speciale ?