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The advantage of the ones for sale at Ferrari dealers is that you get the 2 years (I think you do in the UK, right?) of warranty for peace of mind (I don't know what it costs in the UK, but I think here it is c. 4k per year) - so that is something to keep in mind when comparing prices of independent vs main dealer.
I did not get a PPI done on the cars I bought, but I also did not even look at the cars in person. Normal people get one done. If it is at a main dealer, then at least let them do a proper check on it incl. brake use etc. and get that sent to you.
My Scuderia had c. 78k km on the clock when I sold it and the dealer told me it drove better than any other one he had driven. Should not have sold that car, stupid decision.
I would pay more for a car from a main dealer as it gives me a little more comfort that it is a "good" car. That might be fools gold though.
I can't comment on spec of the cars above as that is a very individual preference. I prefer the racing seats, but not everybody does (they are not as comfortable or supportive as the Porsche equivalents).
Good luck
I did not get a PPI done on the cars I bought, but I also did not even look at the cars in person. Normal people get one done. If it is at a main dealer, then at least let them do a proper check on it incl. brake use etc. and get that sent to you.
My Scuderia had c. 78k km on the clock when I sold it and the dealer told me it drove better than any other one he had driven. Should not have sold that car, stupid decision.
I would pay more for a car from a main dealer as it gives me a little more comfort that it is a "good" car. That might be fools gold though.
I can't comment on spec of the cars above as that is a very individual preference. I prefer the racing seats, but not everybody does (they are not as comfortable or supportive as the Porsche equivalents).
Good luck
When I bought mine, there was one which was £10k more expensive with my ideal spec (Giallo Modena, black roof, race seats, shields and interior carbon) from my local dealer. £10k was a lot but I might have squeezed it out. I went with mine (same except Rosso Corsa). Loved it to death. More mileage. Had it for 9 years. Have done everything, literally everything (except N'ring), I could have wanted to do with that car. But I had problems. Sorted under (expensive) Ferrari warranty. And there are advantages with being with a dealer. So if you want to keep it for a few years, buy the one with a dealer/official warranty. I am not a proponent of the self funding problem fund but just my view. Do not buy a garage queen. Value is to be had in the higher than average mileage car. Which you want to actually drive. Also there is a kind of odd value proposition in a lower mileage car which you can torture up to being average or a bit higher than average a low mileage one. Just pick the one you love. I'd pick a Spider though if possible. Incoherent advice but pick the one you love, which is not a garage queen, and preferably a Spider.
OP. Regarding the inspection. I would have it done at the main dealer. I bought my 458 through an Indie - actually it was a SOR car so I got it for a bargain price.
I then had it serviced and inspected by Ferrari and the power15 warranty added - which is in itself about 300 checks with a report. The warranty inspection costs about £180
You must thoroughly check the car and all work done on it.
I then had it serviced and inspected by Ferrari and the power15 warranty added - which is in itself about 300 checks with a report. The warranty inspection costs about £180
You must thoroughly check the car and all work done on it.
andyr said:
OP. Regarding the inspection. I would have it done at the main dealer. I bought my 458 through an Indie - actually it was a SOR car so I got it for a bargain price.
I then had it serviced and inspected by Ferrari and the power15 warranty added - which is in itself about 300 checks with a report. The warranty inspection costs about £180
You must thoroughly check the car and all work done on it.
Was this long ago? I called Ferrari Hatfield and they quoted £300 for a basic MOT-style check (1 hour) or £780 for the full Power15 inspection. All in, including the warranty, it would be around £4,200.I then had it serviced and inspected by Ferrari and the power15 warranty added - which is in itself about 300 checks with a report. The warranty inspection costs about £180
You must thoroughly check the car and all work done on it.
Might as well get one from Ferrari directly with the 2-year warranty and save on the inspection and warranty costs?
maura said:
MDL111 said:
they have gotten quite a bit cheaper, have they not (I don't really follow UK 458 prices)?
If I were in the market, I would probably buy this one - try to get it a little closer to 100k and then just drive it and not worry about values. Got the seats I want and very good service history (change the rims to silver post purchase).
I don't think the standard V8s post 360 sound particularly nice, but still better than the turbo engines.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17435835
In my earlier reply I was going to post exactly this car and say wrong wheels, but thought I would be accused of being an Autostore fan boy as I’ve commented on their F12 in the F12 threads. But exactly this car, been up for sale 8 months, on the dot servicing, right mileage and I would be asking for it’s March 2025 service to be done and negotiate the last Ferrari Power 15 Warranty purchase which will take you to July 2026. If both done at £105k, a great buy imhoIf I were in the market, I would probably buy this one - try to get it a little closer to 100k and then just drive it and not worry about values. Got the seats I want and very good service history (change the rims to silver post purchase).
I don't think the standard V8s post 360 sound particularly nice, but still better than the turbo engines.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17435835
JJ77 said:
White Spider stands out on price, but probably because it’s white. 2 year Ferrari warranty. The other cars Coupe look expensive to me but have not been looking at 458 prices for a while. Never heard of Lumen Cars.
Lumen are a "High End" offshoot of the Greenhous chain. They've an outlet near me in Shrewsbury - had a 570 on for about 8 months at a very optimistic £98k, which dropped £5k a few weeks ago and another £3k recently. For virtually the same money I'd be going to a main dealer.CasioPasio said:
Was this long ago? I called Ferrari Hatfield and they quoted £300 for a basic MOT-style check (1 hour) or £780 for the full Power15 inspection. All in, including the warranty, it would be around £4,200.
Might as well get one from Ferrari directly with the 2-year warranty and save on the inspection and warranty costs?
Unless the one you want is private or at an independent. The good thing is that you can factor the £4.2k into your purchase price (actually closer to £8k for the two year Power15 warranty) and add the warranty yourself.Might as well get one from Ferrari directly with the 2-year warranty and save on the inspection and warranty costs?
Edited by ANOpax on Thursday 8th May 18:21
Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars
worldwidewebs said:
Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars
I agree on that, I gave up paying for it after a few years. But it was still nice to have it at purchase, just in case that your new car blows up on you on the way home ...worldwidewebs said:
Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars
It all depends on your attitude to risk. The other thing to bear in mind is this: if you’re selling, and can state “Ferrari warranty until…”, might you garner more interest?I’m a wuss and have always renewed warranty. It makes you less concerned to take it out and drive it, properly.
JJ77 said:
Grigio Silverstone with Red/Bordeaux sounds lovely, are you happy to post a photo, not in the market but inquisitive to see that combo.. seen a few 430’s like that and thought that darker grey worked so well with it.
I don’t think I have any decent photos of it, real shame and it’s too late to go into the garage. This video is from when I bought it, sadly it’s no longer in the sold gallery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPrEpu_zHT8
[quote=worldwidewebs]Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars[/
Well it covered the gearbox on the 458, that surpassed the cost of the warranty by a fair few thousand pounds.
As for Porsche warranties they’ve been known to duck out their responsibilities when it came to stumping up.
Well it covered the gearbox on the 458, that surpassed the cost of the warranty by a fair few thousand pounds.
As for Porsche warranties they’ve been known to duck out their responsibilities when it came to stumping up.
worldwidewebs said:
Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars
Covered new engine for me. That would have been £60k + labour? Or some other new car like sum. supersport said:
I don’t think I have any decent photos of it, real shame and it’s too late to go into the garage.
This video is from when I bought it, sadly it’s no longer in the sold gallery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPrEpu_zHT8
Yep that works.. Grigio Silverstone really opens up the interior colour options.This video is from when I bought it, sadly it’s no longer in the sold gallery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPrEpu_zHT8
MingtheMerciless said:
worldwidewebs said:
Unlike the Porsche warranty, the Ferrari one is next to useless - covers very little of significance and most of what it does cover costs less than the warranty itself. The reality is that for the most part the 458 is pretty bullet proof. Find a good one, get it inspected, drive it and enjoy. Main dealer, independent or private - it matters very little really. FWIW, I bought mine privately and it's by far the best one I saw and that includes main dealer cars
Covered new engine for me. That would have been £60k + labour? Or some other new car like sum. JJ77 said:
Yeah I never understand throw away comments like that, or what I saved on warranty put in a fund concepts, buy a used car with Ferrari warranty already on it, and reassuring that the Engine, Gearbox and major components are covered and at expiry make your choice..
They aren't throwaway comments. They're advice borne from the experience of paying for and trying to claim on Ferrari's warranty.I would agree that for the first time buyer or short term flipper, a warranty provides peace of mind. But don't dismiss the concept of self insuring. The coverage and exclusions contained in the Ferrari warranty are truly awful considering how much it costs. With the money I've saved on Ferrari warranties, I can still afford to buy Ming a new engine.
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 9th May 11:24
ANOpax said:
They aren't throwaway comments. They're advice borne from the experience of paying for and trying to claim on Ferrari's warranty.
I would agree that for the first time buyer or short term flipper, a warranty provides peace of mind. But don't dismiss the concept of self insuring. The coverage and exclusions contained in the Ferrari warranty are truly awful considering how much it costs. With the money I've saved on Ferrari warranties, I can still afford to buy Ming a new engine.
Jolly decent of you. PH is a great place. I would agree that for the first time buyer or short term flipper, a warranty provides peace of mind. But don't dismiss the concept of self insuring. The coverage and exclusions contained in the Ferrari warranty are truly awful considering how much it costs. With the money I've saved on Ferrari warranties, I can still afford to buy Ming a new engine.
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 9th May 11:24
The power 15 warranty covers, what, 75% of the cars value I would think ? £30k gearbox and £80k for an engine.
So for about £1800 a year you’re covering £110k of issues. For me, a no brainer.
I know there are some annoying exclusions. But I’ve successfully claimed for a suspension failure - no hassle. The dealer just did it all.
As I’ve said below, a warranty is just an insurance product. If you are happy with the risk then it’s no issue. But that doesn’t reduce the likelihood of the risk.
Also, I think that buying a car with the warranty shows the provenance of the car, to some extent. You can’t just slap a warranty on any old 458.
So for about £1800 a year you’re covering £110k of issues. For me, a no brainer.
I know there are some annoying exclusions. But I’ve successfully claimed for a suspension failure - no hassle. The dealer just did it all.
As I’ve said below, a warranty is just an insurance product. If you are happy with the risk then it’s no issue. But that doesn’t reduce the likelihood of the risk.
Also, I think that buying a car with the warranty shows the provenance of the car, to some extent. You can’t just slap a warranty on any old 458.
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