Thoughts on this FF
Discussion
mpbcs said:
I test drove this car before buying mine. Looks good in the flesh and spec is ok. The lack of a dealer warranty scared the hell out of me and I think the one offered had a very low max payout per claim, so you could be left with some hefty bills if anything went wrong. I tried it back in November, so I guess a low bid might be worth a try.
This... Not to frighten you (too much) but these things can have huge warranty claims (which I presume is what they know).
Front gearbox is prone to a few issues.
Acquaitence of mine went in for warranty work (about 3 years into the 4 year manufacturer warranty) - The total bill to Ferrari for those works?
£26.8k ... so not pocket changed. This may just be an isolated case, and I haven't seen the breakdown.
These FF's are a great shout when they're within Manufacturers warranty but would scare me without one.
Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale is a better 4 seater than a V8s...
But tech in V8s far better - has more get up and go than the maser albeit 3/4tonne heavier!
mattf93 said:
This...
Not to frighten you (too much) but these things can have huge warranty claims (which I presume is what they know).
Front gearbox is prone to a few issues.
Acquaitence of mine went in for warranty work (about 3 years into the 4 year manufacturer warranty) - The total bill to Ferrari for those works?
£26.8k ... so not pocket changed. This may just be an isolated case, and I haven't seen the breakdown.
These FF's are a great shout when they're within Manufacturers warranty but would scare me without one.
Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale is a better 4 seater than a V8s...
But tech in V8s far better - has more get up and go than the maser albeit 3/4tonne heavier!
I think I would only look at one if it were from a dealership with all appropriate warranties etc, not worth the risk.Not to frighten you (too much) but these things can have huge warranty claims (which I presume is what they know).
Front gearbox is prone to a few issues.
Acquaitence of mine went in for warranty work (about 3 years into the 4 year manufacturer warranty) - The total bill to Ferrari for those works?
£26.8k ... so not pocket changed. This may just be an isolated case, and I haven't seen the breakdown.
These FF's are a great shout when they're within Manufacturers warranty but would scare me without one.
Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale is a better 4 seater than a V8s...
But tech in V8s far better - has more get up and go than the maser albeit 3/4tonne heavier!
The only questions left are the potential to get destroyed on depreciation, is it worth it, do I mind etc. It worries me a bit buying an older car at such a high price if the prices are being kept high at the moment. I can afford to own/run one of these but I will not enjoy the 'worry' of getting savaged when it comes time to move it on, depreciation is obviously always going to happen and I have always just accepted that and moved on. Not sure in this case though as it could be in a different league........
Is it X times better than the V8S? I have been offered some really interesting deals on V8S's recently, basically a brand new car for less than a 4 year old FF with dealer contributions that would bring the monthly payments way down as well.
Sadly the Maserati just doesn’t do it for me, test drove one a while back and it sounded great, looked great but just felt old and heavy......
Zanderman said:
mattf93 said:
This...
Not to frighten you (too much) but these things can have huge warranty claims (which I presume is what they know).
Front gearbox is prone to a few issues.
Acquaitence of mine went in for warranty work (about 3 years into the 4 year manufacturer warranty) - The total bill to Ferrari for those works?
£26.8k ... so not pocket changed. This may just be an isolated case, and I haven't seen the breakdown.
These FF's are a great shout when they're within Manufacturers warranty but would scare me without one.
Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale is a better 4 seater than a V8s...
But tech in V8s far better - has more get up and go than the maser albeit 3/4tonne heavier!
I think I would only look at one if it were from a dealership with all appropriate warranties etc, not worth the risk.Not to frighten you (too much) but these things can have huge warranty claims (which I presume is what they know).
Front gearbox is prone to a few issues.
Acquaitence of mine went in for warranty work (about 3 years into the 4 year manufacturer warranty) - The total bill to Ferrari for those works?
£26.8k ... so not pocket changed. This may just be an isolated case, and I haven't seen the breakdown.
These FF's are a great shout when they're within Manufacturers warranty but would scare me without one.
Maserati Granturismo MC Stradale is a better 4 seater than a V8s...
But tech in V8s far better - has more get up and go than the maser albeit 3/4tonne heavier!
The only questions left are the potential to get destroyed on depreciation, is it worth it, do I mind etc. It worries me a bit buying an older car at such a high price if the prices are being kept high at the moment. I can afford to own/run one of these but I will not enjoy the 'worry' of getting savaged when it comes time to move it on, depreciation is obviously always going to happen and I have always just accepted that and moved on. Not sure in this case though as it could be in a different league........
Is it X times better than the V8S? I have been offered some really interesting deals on V8S's recently, basically a brand new car for less than a 4 year old FF with dealer contributions that would bring the monthly payments way down as well.
Sadly the Maserati just doesn’t do it for me, test drove one a while back and it sounded great, looked great but just felt old and heavy......
With regards to warranty - I did buy from an official dealer, but would have also considered a car from somewhere else as long as it is eligible for a Ferrari warranty. Price needs to reflect this though (or it needs to be the "perfect" spec that you can't otherwise find). Get it checked / PPI at Ferrari and then have them put a warranty on it post purchase
I think the easiest way is going to be to test drive the FF and spend some time with it, I am sure all will become clear then! I test drove the V8S and was very impressed but to be fair it didnt 'blow my hair back' so we will see. Also test drove the 991 Turbo S which was incredible but a different proposition!
Zanderman said:
I think the easiest way is going to be to test drive the FF and spend some time with it, I am sure all will become clear then! I test drove the V8S and was very impressed but to be fair it didnt 'blow my hair back' so we will see. Also test drove the 991 Turbo S which was incredible but a different proposition!
They are totally superb cars. Fast, Practical, very comfortable on a long motorway drive, huge fun with the sound of a V12 bouncing off the rock walls of an alpine pass. BUT.... it's an amazing drive train and everything else is not of the quality you'd expect in a 3-series BMW. so buy with your eyes open, don't worry about shut lines, electrics that function without gremlins, trim that doesn't wobble a bit, all that isn't important. just put 98 in and drive it. GarageQueen said:
has anyone come across a FF buying guide on the net?
No buying guide that I know of but there's a few worthwhile articles on here: https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-fleet/ferr...
https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/blog/ferrari-...
As others have previously commented, I would only buy from a main dealer with warranty.
If you still need a nudge here's a little inspiration -
I was in a dealership looking at the FF on Saturday I am seriously considering one at the moment as it was much nicer in person thank in the pictures and the noise it makes.................. My only real concern is that there arent many around and I would like a 2014+ car so that I can run it for 2 years and it will still have some of the 7 year servicing pack left. The 2014+ ones are out of budget for me sadly and I am not sure I want to spend £160k for a 2012 car that will be out of warranty and service pack by the time I am done. The potential for serious financial ruin feels pretty high with these!
Stunning piece of kit though!
Stunning piece of kit though!
Zanderman said:
I was in a dealership looking at the FF on Saturday I am seriously considering one at the moment as it was much nicer in person thank in the pictures and the noise it makes.................. My only real concern is that there arent many around and I would like a 2014+ car so that I can run it for 2 years and it will still have some of the 7 year servicing pack left. The 2014+ ones are out of budget for me sadly and I am not sure I want to spend £160k for a 2012 car that will be out of warranty and service pack by the time I am done. The potential for serious financial ruin feels pretty high with these!
Stunning piece of kit though!
Warranty can be extended up to 12 years old I think (possibly 10 years). I think there is no mileage limit, but not completely sure Stunning piece of kit though!
Fair enough, I just wondered if it might affect its value. That is my only sticking point with these is the value after 2 or 3 years. If they take a £50k drop and with what it will cost me per month on the finance it could be ruinously expensive to run one. I know the whole 'if you have to ask you cant afford it' etc etc but I have my limits and it will worry me too much I think.........
Zanderman said:
Fair enough, I just wondered if it might affect its value. That is my only sticking point with these is the value after 2 or 3 years. If they take a £50k drop and with what it will cost me per month on the finance it could be ruinously expensive to run one. I know the whole 'if you have to ask you cant afford it' etc etc but I have my limits and it will worry me too much I think.........
I think 2-3 years is probably not the ideal hold period to minimize annual cost. I am planning to keep mine for a long time with a reasoning along the lines of that in the end they will hopefully bottom out somewhere and therefore the annual cost will look better ... or keep it forever Be prepared to wait for a while when selling - they do not seem to sell fast
Cheapest dealer 2014 FF is £175k, might get a bit off that but I think £160k might be stretching things a bit!
TurboTerrific9 said:
I reckon you could pick up a 2014 for £160k. I sold my mid/late 2014 car recently - high speck/pano roof (worth if if you can) recently for decent amount less (admittedly privately) - 23k miles
GarageQueen said:
MDL111 said:
Warranty can be extended up to 12 years old I think (possibly 10 years). I think there is no mileage limit, but not completely sure
here's the used Ferrari warranty options......I'd be very interested to hear the actual costs on this, must be quite substantial I think
Likewise I would be curious to read what other weak points have been identified on the ff. the 4 wheel drive being a new system built by Ferrari makes me curious if it's got a limited life line before wrk is inevitable?!
If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
f1ten said:
Likewise I would be curious to read what other weak points have been identified on the ff. the 4 wheel drive being a new system built by Ferrari makes me curious if it's got a limited life line before wrk is inevitable?!
If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
It depends on the mileage you do in one? I know of a swiss ordered car that did 59K miles in 2 years - that needed a new front gearbox at 32k miles and a partial rebuild of the new box at 54k miles... If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
But that is only one car I know of.
I am sure in general use they are more reliable than that TurboTerrific is a good man to ask...
As a useable Ferrari though they are a very special thing indeed.
mattf93 said:
f1ten said:
Likewise I would be curious to read what other weak points have been identified on the ff. the 4 wheel drive being a new system built by Ferrari makes me curious if it's got a limited life line before wrk is inevitable?!
If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
It depends on the mileage you do in one? I know of a swiss ordered car that did 59K miles in 2 years - that needed a new front gearbox at 32k miles and a partial rebuild of the new box at 54k miles... If I bought one I would be questioning relying on the warranty as I've found out with my car that was still under power warranty...
But that is only one car I know of.
I am sure in general use they are more reliable than that TurboTerrific is a good man to ask...
As a useable Ferrari though they are a very special thing indeed.
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