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Hi, had the chance to drive the 812 on the Hockenheim circuit last Friday (back to back with the 488GTB). Well done Ferrari, I'll have to say, a step up from the F12 in every respect.
Very good handling given the alleged mass, albeit I only had 4 laps. Would have been interesting to see how long it would have coped tyre/brake wise, but in the end it is a car hardly solely designed for the circuit, and it really did well. Power is immense. It is the first car where I actually had to turn in late into Parabolica which in any other road car is more or less just a straight... Close to 300 kph before braking apparently, which I thought is insane (in a good way).
If you have your name down for one, you have something to look forward to!
Very good handling given the alleged mass, albeit I only had 4 laps. Would have been interesting to see how long it would have coped tyre/brake wise, but in the end it is a car hardly solely designed for the circuit, and it really did well. Power is immense. It is the first car where I actually had to turn in late into Parabolica which in any other road car is more or less just a straight... Close to 300 kph before braking apparently, which I thought is insane (in a good way).
If you have your name down for one, you have something to look forward to!
Yipper said:
Is it me or is that bloke a extremely annoying bellend??!!!number 46 said:
Yipper said:
Is it me or is that bloke a extremely annoying bellend??!!!andrew said:
number 46 said:
Yipper said:
Is it me or is that bloke a extremely annoying bellend??!!!
Interesting thing about watching video reviews of that new Ferrari V12 is how problems that were not mentioned on the previous generation (apparently poor steering on the F12 and tricky handling on the TdF... really?) only become apparent when the superceding model comes out.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
If I could afford an 812 I'd have a nice spec F12 and spend the savings in depreciation driving it a couple of 10k miles.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
If I could afford an 812 I'd have a nice spec F12 and spend the savings in depreciation driving it a couple of 10k miles.
Edited by Thom on Wednesday 5th July 12:55
number 46 said:
Is it me or is that bloke a extremely annoying bellend??!!!
My 11 year old son enjoys his reviews, when he's not watching you-tube football penalty shoot outs. I however find his reviews intensely irritating to the extent that I shudder at the thought that Ferrari embrace this type of social media marketing. Apparently he's getting one. It's a great shame it's not as spikey to drive as the TDF really....Thom said:
Interesting thing about watching video reviews of that new Ferrari V12 is how problems that were not mentioned on the previous generation (apparently poor steering on the F12 and tricky handling on the TdF... really?) only become apparent when the superceding model comes out.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
If I could afford an 812 I'd have a nice spec F12 and spend the savings in depreciation driving it a couple of 10k miles.
Journos clearly gloss over problems when reviewing Ferraris (and some other brands), through fear of being kicked off the next prestigious jolly (Ferrari is notoriously aggressive behind the scenes). You can see and quantify the phenomenon in the laptimes -- journos will wow about Ferrari handling or speed in their articles... but the ensuing laptimes will often come in someway behind competing models from other brands... For example, the LaFerrari was supposed to be an amazing car, but its ~950bhp failed to dip under 7 minutes at the Ring.Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
If I could afford an 812 I'd have a nice spec F12 and spend the savings in depreciation driving it a couple of 10k miles.
Edited by Thom on Wednesday 5th July 12:55
seawise said:
My 11 year old son enjoys his reviews, when he's not watching you-tube football penalty shoot outs. I however find his reviews intensely irritating to the extent that I shudder at the thought that Ferrari embrace this type of social media marketing. Apparently he's getting one. It's a great shame it's not as spikey to drive as the TDF really....
It seems there are some benefits to being part of a retail clothing dynasty afterall 
Thom said:
and tricky handling on the TdF... really?) only become apparent when the superceding model comes out.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
The weird handling given by the calibration of the rws on the tdf was mentioned a lot between journos
luigisayshello said:
Thom said:
and tricky handling on the TdF... really?) only become apparent when the superceding model comes out.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
Makes you wonder how much journos seem concerned about pointing actual issues when they review a new Ferrari, and/or if said "issues" on the previous model are not rather made up to try to justify any improvement on the new car that is insignificantly any better than its predecessor for anyone who isn't a pro racing driver.
The weird handling given by the calibration of the rws on the tdf was mentioned a lot between journos
footsoldier said:
bertie said:
Maybe pictures don't do it justice, but in the flesh the 812 looks absolutely stunning to me.........
Agree - I've seen it twice for real now, and it looks much better and very impressive.bertie said:
Those pics I posted I took whilst doing my Attelier, I was absolutely bowled over by it in the metal.
nice, what sort of delivery you expecting - I was told no RHD until back end of q1 2018, so I was going to wait until I have seen a few colour combo's in the flesh prior doing the Atelier.Gassing Station | Ferrari V12 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff