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Nobody seems to have spotted the shagged brake calipers in the photos of the TdF blue car. The lengthy and flowery description glosses over that. It’ll cost more to have those refurbished than to repair the alloy (which gets a mention).
This car is not, as it claims to be, “in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition”. Leads me to wonder - if something that obvious has been omitted, then what else have they left out?
This car is not, as it claims to be, “in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition”. Leads me to wonder - if something that obvious has been omitted, then what else have they left out?
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 17th April 14:13
Yeah, much better interior than the blue Tdf. Where would you bid on that at the moment?! I’m tempted to have one of these as my daily, been offered a GT4 lusso at £125k this week it’s just the batteries in these cars that holds me back as I tend to leave my car for extended periods.... which you can see a bit more during corona!
ANOpax said:
Nobody seems to have spotted the shagged brake calipers in the photos of the TdF blue car. The lengthy and flowery description glosses over that. It’ll cost more to have those refurbished than to repair the alloy (which gets a mention).
This car is not, as it claims to be, “in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition”. Leads me to wonder - if something that obvious has been omitted, then what else have they left out?
How can you tell from the photos that they;re shagged? Do you mean just superficial issues that have no bearing on their actual practical performance? That's the risk with the lockdown, decision-making based on just a bunch of photos. Like Insta, people only show the good stuff...This car is not, as it claims to be, “in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition”. Leads me to wonder - if something that obvious has been omitted, then what else have they left out?
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 17th April 14:13
Van Dessel said:
How can you tell from the photos that they;re shagged? Do you mean just superficial issues that have no bearing on their actual practical performance? That's the risk with the lockdown, decision-making based on just a bunch of photos. Like Insta, people only show the good stuff...
Fading of the paint and lettering - which is purely cosmetic. It doesn’t help that they’re the standard calipers - fully painted ones are extra...However, I’d want to be sure that the fading wasn’t from track use - it’s hard to tell the condition of the disc rotors from the photos.
Edited by ANOpax on Sunday 19th April 12:26
Good eye, there's a certain inconsistent patina to the calipers that looks un peu pas normal. Guy could have been a nervous driver and rode the brake pedal. Or outright lied and did track the car. Until cars have foolproof blackboxes with accurate GPS data recorded second by second, we'll never know WHAT people have done to cars with "one careful lady owner" and all that typical salesman schlock.
Calculator said:
Went for £91k +6% fee.
If that’s where the market is then these are bargains.
That is a reasonable price for a non-dealer car. I paid very close to that for my 2012 25K mile FF earlier on in this thread in October 2019.If that’s where the market is then these are bargains.
I think the calipers have been over cleaned with some abrasive or acid cleaner, when you cook them, that's not where they discolour. Calipers do look very bad though.
vanman1936 said:
This is just around the corner form me, it looks pretty tidy. But the colour isn't for me. I love the colour of this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...marky7seven said:
This is just around the corner form me, it looks pretty tidy. But the colour isn't for me. I love the colour of this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
That Blu Elettrico car has a great spec. Tons of interior carbon and the contrast stitching and Blu Scuro inserts really lift the interior. I know you’re interested in FFs from the other thread so you should really take a look at that car. The only missing options which I’d like on it are ventilated seats, front camera and suspension lift. They may or may not be important to you but they’re out there.
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 24th April 17:32
ANOpax said:
marky7seven said:
This is just around the corner form me, it looks pretty tidy. But the colour isn't for me. I love the colour of this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
That Blu Elettrico car has a great spec. Tons of interior carbon and the contrast stitching and Blu Scuro inserts really lift the interior. I know you’re interested in FFs from the other thread so you should really take a look at that car. The only missing options which I’d like on it are ventilated seats, front camera and suspension lift. They may or may not be important to you but they’re out there.
Edited by ANOpax on Friday 24th April 17:32
Hi team, advice appreciated if you have a spare moment! I'm considering buying an FF as I've driven a few and heard some amazing things about living with one (I have 2 v young kids).
Any thoughts on pricing right now? I'm not sure I'd like to buy an expensive one (some 2015/6 ones are up in the 130k+ level) because I may as well go sub-100k and get a v similar car with having to worry too much about depreciation or thinking I may have been able to get a Lusso for that much next year! And I just want to drive it so will be putting on a fair few more miles.
Any thoughts on the pricing of these ones (aside from the fact they are 2012 and not mentioning PTU issues!!):
http://www.knowlhill.com/showroom/detail/432-ferra...
https://helloluxury.co.uk/cars/ferrari-ff-6-3-auto...
Thanks in advance.
Any thoughts on pricing right now? I'm not sure I'd like to buy an expensive one (some 2015/6 ones are up in the 130k+ level) because I may as well go sub-100k and get a v similar car with having to worry too much about depreciation or thinking I may have been able to get a Lusso for that much next year! And I just want to drive it so will be putting on a fair few more miles.
Any thoughts on the pricing of these ones (aside from the fact they are 2012 and not mentioning PTU issues!!):
http://www.knowlhill.com/showroom/detail/432-ferra...
https://helloluxury.co.uk/cars/ferrari-ff-6-3-auto...
Thanks in advance.
If you are buying an FF for regular use (and given how practical they are, why wouldn't you) there are two options i would want, both of which i don't believe were available until 2014/15 build, and those are the panoramic glass roof and apple car play. The glass roof makes a big difference especially to the rear passengers in making the car feel more spacious and less claustrophobic, which i am sure your children would appreciate. and the apple car play effectively future proofs the in-car-entertainment, which on an FF or Lusso with the big screen is highly desirable (i wouldn't bother with it on a 488 or 812 as no central screen).
There was a 2015 car which sold on the collecting cars auction site last week for £97k (incl premium), but will need a warranty (i wouldn't run an FF without a proper Ferrari warranty) - i think that is the top of the market currently, but it gives you a benchmark.
The Lusso isn't a massive advance on the FF to drive, the 4WS masks the cars considerable bulk and size a bit better and it's slightly more muted and refined (if that's what you want). But i actually think the FF is the better looking car (bit like how the F12 is a nicer more cohesive design than the 812 SF).
There was a 2015 car which sold on the collecting cars auction site last week for £97k (incl premium), but will need a warranty (i wouldn't run an FF without a proper Ferrari warranty) - i think that is the top of the market currently, but it gives you a benchmark.
The Lusso isn't a massive advance on the FF to drive, the 4WS masks the cars considerable bulk and size a bit better and it's slightly more muted and refined (if that's what you want). But i actually think the FF is the better looking car (bit like how the F12 is a nicer more cohesive design than the 812 SF).
Having driven a V12 Lusso and looked and sat in a few FFs i agree 100% to get one with Pano roof..It transforms the ambience for rear seat passengers and according to my Ferrari dealer very difficult to shift FFs/Lussos without this option..I don't like them in Black as its too big a car to try and keep clean all the time..My choice would be one of the greys such as Silverstone or Canna Di Fucile or a Blue one.
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