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Mine was right at the top of the market but a late car, with the perfect spec (in my eyes), just one owner and low miles. So yes I could have bought a less expensive one but I also wanted to buy the best one I possibly could.. I think as long as the price reflects the age/history/condition and mileage they represent great value, whether you're buying at £80k or £135k. It's a hugely complete and competent car and I prefer it over the F12, more comfortable, slicker gear change, rides better and brakes seem less grabby. Although again, that's subjective and will depend how you're using it. I also love the low key look of it..
Van Dessel said:
Given the paint and rim colour, was this the recent Macari car?
Well spotted! It actually isn't but I did go and drive that car. I missed out in it as I didn't have my big boy pants on during price negotiations. The Marcari one was Blu Mirabeau Metallic and cream interior. Mine is Blu Tour De France with tan interior. Both clear rear glass and both forged silver wheels, so I was lucky to find another so close to my ideal spec. This time the big boy pants were firmly on and a much stronger first offer was placed!Edited by RUNDLL on Tuesday 27th July 17:53
R5OHH said:
Thanks! I must update the garage as things have come and gone since then. We’ve had two Abarth’s, the first a 500 Esseesse, an early one and the second a 2012 595 Competizione, so both pre-facelift. Both had zero steering feel but light, small and quick. The second was the better car, better damping/springs but had Sabelt bucket seats which looked cool but weren’t comfortable at all. I’m sure the later facelift cars are that bit better again. Although I’m not sure I’d want to pay much more than £15k for one. I also would never choose to take it on a spirited drive.. great as a city car or for just pottering about and the hatch is useful too.
FF was originally going to be a daily but for me it’s just too nice, so will be garaged and used for weekends etc. RS6 remains the trusty for daily duties and dog wagon!
Thank you for that and sorry to divert the thread. I love the look of the most recent Esseesse but agree asking prices are high. Thank you for your input! Looking for a small, enjoyable, manual drivers car is proving difficult. Had considered Audi A1e but worried it will have that VAG feel, numb, super light steering, heavy for its size. Might have to pony up for a GR Yaris if they're really as good as everyone says.FF was originally going to be a daily but for me it’s just too nice, so will be garaged and used for weekends etc. RS6 remains the trusty for daily duties and dog wagon!
Congrats again on the FF. It is a daily but I think daily-ing it does take away some of the specialness.
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I was the same. Consider an RS6 but wanted V10 and wife vetoed on age. Bought a Panamera GTS instead, fabulous as a daily
Armitage.Shanks said:
I'm getting interested in these but the entry price spread seems huge. For example the black GVE 2012 car on 41k @£82k with all those extras looks great value and I thought price reflected mileage? But then you have Simon Dolan's ex 2012 FF on 42k with less extras albeit a fantastic colour combo @£103k.
What gives?
Potentially one car has replacement discs and the other needs replacement discs ?What gives?
Mattjevans said:
I'm looking for a new wagon and have narrowed the options down to a Taycan CT, Panamera ST or an Alpina. However given prices of the FF it seems these are now in range for me too (sub £100k).
I've never been in the position to even think about buying a Ferrari before. Possibly a stupid question, but what's the test drive process for something like this?
I've never been in the position to even think about buying a Ferrari before. Possibly a stupid question, but what's the test drive process for something like this?
Kevin Cozner said:
I'm looking for a new wagon and have narrowed the options down to a Taycan CT, Panamera ST or an Alpina. However given prices of the FF it seems these are now in range for me too (sub £100k).
I've never been in the position to even think about buying a Ferrari before. Possibly a stupid question, but what's the test drive process for something like this?
Mine's an old one but I absolutely love it. Being chassis number 007 was the clincher that made me buy her. Great cars and mine does 193 mph but the new ones do just over 200. Not my daily though. Alpina community is good too if you are into brand meets etc.I've never been in the position to even think about buying a Ferrari before. Possibly a stupid question, but what's the test drive process for something like this?
Kevin Cozner said:
I've never been in the position to even think about buying a Ferrari before. Possibly a stupid question, but what's the test drive process for something like this?
The same as the test drive process for any other used car. Find one you like and go drive it. Don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s a Ferrari - it’s still just a car, albeit one which might get properly under your skin. Jules Sunley said:
Mine's an old one but I absolutely love it. Being chassis number 007 was the clincher that made me buy her. Great cars and mine does 193 mph but the new ones do just over 200. Not my daily though. Alpina community is good too if you are into brand meets etc.
That's lovely. They seem like the kind of cars people hang on to, which says a lot about what they're like to live with.ANOpax said:
The same as the test drive process for any other used car. Find one you like and go drive it. Don’t be intimidated by the fact that it’s a Ferrari - it’s still just a car, albeit one which might get properly under your skin.
Ok, thanks. I expect it will; good thing is though my wife also loves the FF so there'll be nothing standing in the way if we decide to take the plunge. It'd be some twist in the hunt for a dog carrier...Kevin Cozner said:
Jules Sunley said:
Mine's an old one but I absolutely love it. Being chassis number 007 was the clincher that made me buy her. Great cars and mine does 193 mph but the new ones do just over 200. Not my daily though. Alpina community is good too if you are into brand meets etc.
That's lovely. They seem like the kind of cars people hang on to, which says a lot about what they're like to live with.Thanks and yes definitely a keeper. I was at Caffeine and Machine last week and met up with the owner of 1 of the other 2 of mine in the UK, and it was his second ownership of the same car having bought it back from the chap he sold it too who had then bought another Alpina. They do get under your skin.
I'd still love an FF though, but as well not instead of.
So yesterday I installed a remote valve controller to the FF.. took a couple of hours as a bit awkward to get to the solenoids but what a difference it makes. The valves are now operation on a remote. I'd definitely recommend it and certainly more cost effective than changing the exhaust.
Jules Sunley said:
It will be interesting to see how much the one on Collecting Cars at the moment goes for. Currently at £72.5k for a 2012 with 40k miles. Black with a black and red interior: -
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
Did you see the result on this car...and with that interior too!!https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
pontypool said:
Jules Sunley said:
It will be interesting to see how much the one on Collecting Cars at the moment goes for. Currently at £72.5k for a 2012 with 40k miles. Black with a black and red interior: -
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
Did you see the result on this car...and with that interior too!!https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...
Chaps, been doing some work being the wheels on my FF and noticed I may have some rusty CCM bolts. One of the issues highlighted by my pre purchase research on the FF was to look out for rusty bolts on the CCM's. What I couldn't work out however was if people where refering to the small bolts around the face of the disc/rotor, or the two big ones that hold the caliper in place.
Also, how rusty is too rusty? Looking at mine I do have surface rust on some bolts but both look as though they could be easily removed. If I know which ones they are can I simply change them over?
Also, how rusty is too rusty? Looking at mine I do have surface rust on some bolts but both look as though they could be easily removed. If I know which ones they are can I simply change them over?
RUNDLL said:
Chaps, been doing some work being the wheels on my FF and noticed I may have some rusty CCM bolts. One of the issues highlighted by my pre purchase research on the FF was to look out for rusty bolts on the CCM's. What I couldn't work out however was if people where refering to the small bolts around the face of the disc/rotor, or the two big ones that hold the caliper in place.
Also, how rusty is too rusty? Looking at mine I do have surface rust on some bolts but both look as though they could be easily removed. If I know which ones they are can I simply change them over?
the bolts referred to are the small ones holding the disc to the bell, they may not look that rusty but swell and weld to the holes in the disc, getting them out can result in the disc breaking, ask me how I know!Also, how rusty is too rusty? Looking at mine I do have surface rust on some bolts but both look as though they could be easily removed. If I know which ones they are can I simply change them over?
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