FF prices

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Kettmark

810 posts

137 months

Sunday 6th November
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What do we think the collecting cars example will go for? £90k including fees?

21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Sunday 6th November
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Kettmark said:
What do we think the collecting cars example will go for? £90k including fees?
I was suprised the red one with 4 missing years and import history made what it did so I'm not altogether sure.

£90K seems to be floor for these if they are half sensible. The red one did seem in better condition than this one though and also had less miles.

Considering what they cost new I still think they're a bargain.

The only real alternative for me was a new Alpina B5 Touring, which I do like but I just knew I'd be wondering why I didn't buy an FF...again.

So I took the plunge and I'm delighted I did. It took me a month to get comfortable driving it though, mentally as well as actually phyisically getting used to it. Initially I found it a bit intimidating and I'm used to 400-500hp cars. The FF is quick on an altogether different level, especially on motorways.

Kettmark

810 posts

137 months

Sunday 6th November
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Anyone own one of these & located near Northamptonshire? I'm keen to meet up with an owner and see if these are for me coming from a Granturismo.

ANOpax

670 posts

150 months

Sunday 6th November
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Kettmark said:
Anyone own one of these & located near Northamptonshire? I'm keen to meet up with an owner and see if these are for me coming from a Granturismo.
The FF is one of the few cars which sounds better than a Granturismo. It can seat the same number of adults. You’re used to Italian ‘charm’ and build quality. Nobody ever accused the Granturismo of being fast. Nobody ever accused the FF of being slow. The FF has the practicality of a hatch, larger boot than the Granturismo and folding rear seats.

What’s not to like?

Kettmark

810 posts

137 months

Sunday 6th November
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The fact it's 3 x the value! Is it 3 x as good is what is like to know.

21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Sunday 6th November
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Kettmark said:
The fact it's 3 x the value! Is it 3 x as good is what is like to know.
You're driving a Ferrari, it's special, really it's special. It's down to you what value you attach to that.

An RS6, E63s or Aplina B5 estate is probably a better daily driver, in fact they are better daily drivers, but it's not a Ferrari. It doesn't have that V12 sound or the theatre when you start it.

Every time you drive the car it's an event and never gets old. You're sat behind the wheel of a car with a prancing horse on the steering wheel. It just doesn't get any better than that.

There are faster cars, there are more expensive cars, there are more comfortable and more practical cars. None of them are a Ferrari.You're buying into that. What's that worth to you?


Kettmark

810 posts

137 months

Sunday 6th November
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You should be a salesman 😊

21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Sunday 6th November
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Kettmark said:
You should be a salesman ??
I spent 5 years talking myself out of buying one. All sorts of reasons why I needed to buy something more sensible, less likely to be ruinous. The reality is I was just living in a state of denial.

Eventually I just gave in and bought one.

No regrets so far!

The only downside, for me at least. Is there's simply nowhere to go from here. This is as good as it gets for me. I'm not as fond of the Lusso and Ferrari are unlikely ever to make anything like the FF again now the FUV has been unveiled.

So like many owners, I have a feeling this is going to stay for a very long time.

jason61c

5,430 posts

158 months

Sunday 6th November
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I've just listed my 993. you only live once etc etc.

ANOpax

670 posts

150 months

Monday 7th November
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21ATS said:
There are faster cars, there are more expensive cars, there are more comfortable and more practical cars.
On each individual factor, you're right. But as a package, I'm not sure there is a single car which has the FF beat on all counts apart from its own progeny, the Lusso and PS.

MDL111

6,535 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th November
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Any views on replacement brakes - looks like the salt ate my screws (own fault, was too lazy to get the screws replaced as preventative measure ...)

ANOpax

670 posts

150 months

Wednesday 9th November
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MDL111 said:
Any views on replacement brakes - looks like the salt ate my screws (own fault, was too lazy to get the screws replaced as preventative measure ...)
Pontypool had a quote from HR Owen which seems eminently reasonable in light of the parts prices from Scuderia & Eurospares

pontypool said:
Whoever gave me the £6k quote on the phone for new disks and pads had NOT added the VAT after all and so it will be £7,200 to get them done.

Not brilliant, but still not as bad as feared.

21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Wednesday 9th November
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There was a thread recently where the chap got the screws/bolts replaced independant of the discs, which were still quite useable.

Do your discs need replacing? I know you drive your car so are they due or is it just a corroded bolt issue?

I did ask Surface Transforms but they don't do FF discs.

There's also these chaps in Germany, got to be worth a call https://www.rebrake.de/en/

Or list prices are available here:-

Front https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(RHD)/P...

Rear https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(RHD)/P...

The bottom line is that it doesn't seem to be ruinous any more - just expensive.

21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Wednesday 9th November
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Looks like the ex Chris Harris FF has appeared on collecting cars.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-ferrari-f...

MDL111

6,535 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th November
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21ATS said:
There was a thread recently where the chap got the screws/bolts replaced independant of the discs, which were still quite useable.

Do your discs need replacing? I know you drive your car so are they due or is it just a corroded bolt issue?

I did ask Surface Transforms but they don't do FF discs.

There's also these chaps in Germany, got to be worth a call https://www.rebrake.de/en/

Or list prices are available here:-

Front https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(RHD)/P...

Rear https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(RHD)/P...

The bottom line is that it doesn't seem to be ruinous any more - just expensive.
Thank you
At least in the rear the bolts can’t be replaced anymore as they are f...ed / front I need to check if it is still possible
Quote for 4 new discs plus pads is c 18k euros
I wonder how surface transforms gets around the code issue without a brembo/Ferrari number to enter
In any case I read somewhere the the ST discs don’t like salt, so even if they were available probably not an option for the FF
Will think about it some more, but overall my own fault for not replacing the bolts
Ah well
Wonder if ST could do a small set to fit under the 17 inch rim of the 996 - a project for next year maybe ...

MDL111

6,535 posts

161 months

Thursday 10th November
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ANOpax said:
MDL111 said:
Any views on replacement brakes - looks like the salt ate my screws (own fault, was too lazy to get the screws replaced as preventative measure ...)
Pontypool had a quote from HR Owen which seems eminently reasonable in light of the parts prices from Scuderia & Eurospares

pontypool said:
Whoever gave me the £6k quote on the phone for new disks and pads had NOT added the VAT after all and so it will be £7,200 to get them done.

Not brilliant, but still not as bad as feared.
Thank you

FastEdd11e

143 posts

40 months

Thursday 10th November
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MDL111 said:
Any views on replacement brakes - looks like the salt ate my screws (own fault, was too lazy to get the screws replaced as preventative measure ...)
Have you tried Sports Italia down near Winchester?
They look after my Ghibli S.

Recently I saw a lovely Diablo, the owner was waxing lyrical about the service he had. They also have lots of Ferrari's as well.
Superb service and honest to boot!


21ATS

963 posts

56 months

Thursday 10th November
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The grey 2012 FF on Collecting cars with 34,316 miles sold at £77,750 + fees (£82,415).

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

Not a particularly nice example but a lot of car for the money.

pontypool

604 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th November
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ANOpax said:
MDL111 said:
Any views on replacement brakes - looks like the salt ate my screws (own fault, was too lazy to get the screws replaced as preventative measure ...)
Pontypool had a quote from HR Owen which seems eminently reasonable in light of the parts prices from Scuderia & Eurospares

pontypool said:
Whoever gave me the £6k quote on the phone for new disks and pads had NOT added the VAT after all and so it will be £7,200 to get them done.

Not brilliant, but still not as bad as feared.
Got my car back last week and apart from my wallet being considerably lighter the thing I noticed immediately was the brake feel was much better. Not driven in anger yet but going to be interesting to see what I think. The good news for the next owner (if I ever sell) is that I have taken the pain for them!


Worth noting that I had a Maserati GranCabrio before the FF which I loved, but the FF is many leagues above the Maser in every dynamic and aural department! And Mrs Pontypool prefers driving the Ferrari too, so that helps domestic harmony.

jason61c

5,430 posts

158 months

Thursday 10th November
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21ATS said:
The grey 2012 FF on Collecting cars with 34,316 miles sold at £77,750 + fees (£82,415).

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

Not a particularly nice example but a lot of car for the money.
I think its a terrible example for the money. after I read the description, looked at who was selling it, read through the invoices, there could be 10K+ of work to go into it with some questionable bits in its history still.