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jason61c said:
haroonok said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14306576
And was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
It sold for high £80’s.And was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
High £80’s with Fezza Warranty was a bargain !
21ATS said:
These cars are awesome.
What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
You can also do it intentionally too although I wouldn’t advise it without winter tyres. The Disco driver must have been somewhat surprised to see you on the forecourt What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
Edited by ANOpax on Monday 12th December 06:23
ANOpax said:
21ATS said:
These cars are awesome.
What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
You can also do it intentionally too although I wouldn’t advise it without winter tyres. The Disco driver must have been somewhat surprised to see you on the forecourt What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
Edited by ANOpax on Monday 12th December 06:23
Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
Aventador 700 said:
Excuse my ignorance as i’m not a Ferrari person, though the F12/812 appeal..
Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
Yes, it’s 4wd in the lower gears. I can imagine that playing with an aventador in the snow would be fun. The FF’s advantage is that even without suspension lift, it has the ground clearance of an M-sport 3 series. With lift engaged (on both axles), the ground clearance is close to that of an SUV. So getting through deep snow is simply not a problem for a winter tyre shod FF. Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
Aventador 700 said:
Excuse my ignorance as i’m not a Ferrari person, though the F12/812 appeal..
Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
The FF bit actually stands for Ferrari Four. So it's full tile is the Ferrari Ferrari Four, as in 4 seat and 4 wheel drive.Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
Drl22 said:
pontypool said:
My FF is tucked up safe at home, but fair play to the guy who’s brought his Lusso up to Courchevel 1850 that I saw this afternoon!
That is precisely what it was designed for. I did fill it with tools and (empty) jerry cans when going to Spa a few years ago.
Edited by pontypool on Wednesday 14th December 16:55
pontypool said:
You have not seen quite how much stuff my family aparently need to bring! But, yes if it was just two of us it would be ideal.
I did fill it with tools and (empty) jerry cans when going to Spa a few years ago.
My earlier photo was taken after a week’s skiing for three of us including boots and poles. Four would have been impossible with all the kit but might have been doable without it. I did fill it with tools and (empty) jerry cans when going to Spa a few years ago.
Edited by pontypool on Wednesday 14th December 16:55
With just two up, we’ve managed to pack enough stuff (including a pair of road bikes) for a fortnight round Europe.
Kettmark said:
jason61c said:
Any owners thinking of selling?
No deals to be done on the classifieds? Many of the have been on sale for ages. Prices are only going one way.Generally (not all but most) owners of these cars don't need the money, they don't necessarily need to move the car on to fund the next one. They will often have multiple cars. So in most cases the asking price is the asking price, if you don't wnat to pay that, don't buy it, they'd probably prefer to keep it than sell it for less that a predetermined figure.
In almost all cases the cars I test drove/tried to buy were all on sale or return, even at the Ferrari main dealers. So from that perspective it's not costing the dealer anything in finance costs to have the car sat in their showroom.
There's a little bit of wiggle room sure, but I generally found it is what it is when it comes to price.
As far as FF's are concerned, they are now reaching that age where the gap between the good ones and the less desirable ones is getting obviously wider. There's a reason so many of the ones currently listed are still listed.
From an owners perspective I'm not entirely sure what I'd replace mine with if I ever did decide to move it on. They are somewhat unique and I think actually a bit undervalued.
21ATS said:
In my experience of trying to buy (and eventually buying) a Ferrari over the 5 years I was looking, is that they are a market unto themselves.
Generally (not all but most) owners of these cars don't need the money, they don't necessarily need to move the car on to fund the next one. They will often have multiple cars. So in most cases the asking price is the asking price, if you don't wnat to pay that, don't buy it, they'd probably prefer to keep it than sell it for less that a predetermined figure.
In almost all cases the cars I test drove/tried to buy were all on sale or return, even at the Ferrari main dealers. So from that perspective it's not costing the dealer anything in finance costs to have the car sat in their showroom.
There's a little bit of wiggle room sure, but I generally found it is what it is when it comes to price.
As far as FF's are concerned, they are now reaching that age where the gap between the good ones and the less desirable ones is getting obviously wider. There's a reason so many of the ones currently listed are still listed.
From an owners perspective I'm not entirely sure what I'd replace mine with if I ever did decide to move it on. They are somewhat unique and I think actually a bit undervalued.
My thoughts exactly. Late cars with nice colour combo and spec a world away from early cars with the opposite. It's the cheapest way into a V12 that is modern enough and the Purowurosong thing is 400k. I am keeping my 2015 car forever and was lucky to get it as the previous owner only sold because the dealer did him an excellent deal on an F12 so he pulled the trigger leaving a spot to quickly jump on. They are still rare cars with 2-300 total in the UK I believe.Generally (not all but most) owners of these cars don't need the money, they don't necessarily need to move the car on to fund the next one. They will often have multiple cars. So in most cases the asking price is the asking price, if you don't wnat to pay that, don't buy it, they'd probably prefer to keep it than sell it for less that a predetermined figure.
In almost all cases the cars I test drove/tried to buy were all on sale or return, even at the Ferrari main dealers. So from that perspective it's not costing the dealer anything in finance costs to have the car sat in their showroom.
There's a little bit of wiggle room sure, but I generally found it is what it is when it comes to price.
As far as FF's are concerned, they are now reaching that age where the gap between the good ones and the less desirable ones is getting obviously wider. There's a reason so many of the ones currently listed are still listed.
From an owners perspective I'm not entirely sure what I'd replace mine with if I ever did decide to move it on. They are somewhat unique and I think actually a bit undervalued.
21ATS said:
jason61c said:
haroonok said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14306576
And was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
It sold for high £80’s.And was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
Turns out, they put 2 years full Ferrari warranty on when the current runs out. so it could have 2.5 years warranty.
What's the cost of a Ferrari Warranty on one of these? Going to get details about what's been done and not etc. Then take it from there.
Aventador 700 said:
ANOpax said:
21ATS said:
These cars are awesome.
What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
You can also do it intentionally too although I wouldn’t advise it without winter tyres. The Disco driver must have been somewhat surprised to see you on the forecourt What other V12 supercar could you do this in. Admittedly it was unintentional
Edited by ANOpax on Monday 12th December 06:23
Is the FF 4wd? seen lots playing with Aventador in the snow due to its 4wd (i would if pressented)
Biggest thing that puts me off a Ferrari is how mileage sensitive they are (though lambo isnt much better) for resale.
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