lots of 812 and Pista's for sale
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There are plenty of such examples. A friend was strongarmed into getting a 488 on promise of getting a Pista. Now the Pista is due and he can't get rid of the 488 unless taking a phenomenal hit far in excess of anything he stood to make on the Pista when he ordered it (which is no longer the case anyway now). So potentially a double hit in each testicle!
WCZ said:
depends, the tdf is still trading at near £1,000,000. if it's in limited numbers and the car drives a certain way (just follow the formula of the TDF and make it overpowered and soften the traction control so the motoring press desribes it as a drivers car) then it could well trade at a premium
Funny new RHD Tdf just sold yesterday at Bonhams bond st sale for £605k inc buyers premium. Low mileage and a celebrity one owner car. The correction is certainly upon ushttps://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25502/lot/15/?cat...
silvercar71 said:
Funny new RHD Tdf just sold yesterday at Bonhams bond st sale for £605k inc buyers premium. Low mileage and a celebrity one owner car. The correction is certainly upon us
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25502/lot/15/?cat...
Absolute bargain when you compare it to others on the market.https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25502/lot/15/?cat...
Taffy66 said:
Absolute bargain when you compare it to others on the market.
Surely that auction is the purest form of price discovery and at £550k hammer price +buyers premium it looks to me like there are a lot of overvalued cars listed at dealers as opposed to that car being the bargain.I know different geographical market but a yellow car failed to sell at rn auction in Abu Dhabi on 30/11 - high bid £505k equivalent.
silvercar71 said:
Surely that auction is the purest form of price discovery and at £550k hammer price +buyers premium it looks to me like there are a lot of overvalued cars listed at dealers as opposed to that car being the bargain.
I know different geographical market but a yellow car failed to sell at rn auction in Abu Dhabi on 30/11 - high bid £505k equivalent.
Exactly. I think these and Senna’s etc are listed for a lot more then they are selling for. I know different geographical market but a yellow car failed to sell at rn auction in Abu Dhabi on 30/11 - high bid £505k equivalent.
GusB said:
silvercar71 said:
Surely that auction is the purest form of price discovery and at £550k hammer price +buyers premium it looks to me like there are a lot of overvalued cars listed at dealers as opposed to that car being the bargain.
I know different geographical market but a yellow car failed to sell at rn auction in Abu Dhabi on 30/11 - high bid £505k equivalent.
Exactly. I think these and Senna’s etc are listed for a lot more then they are selling for. I know different geographical market but a yellow car failed to sell at rn auction in Abu Dhabi on 30/11 - high bid £505k equivalent.
Talking about the TDF , what about this one in Shmee,s video.
Its at 1.30min -2.50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402o0ieTOB8
Its at 1.30min -2.50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402o0ieTOB8
It's the NYSE listing of Ferrari that fked us. The investors greed is pushing Ferrari to releasing waayyy to many models, way tooo quickly, and lo and behold prices have seriously cratered. My beautiful F12 price has cratered and with 812's cratering now, that will make it even worse. Great pity, but I fallen well out of love with the brand I admired since childhood, as a result and instead feel mugged. Look at the many california T's for sale in Exeter - for over a year- astonished no buyers, crazy. Even starting to dislike the brand now as disloyal greedy fleecers. I. E the joke spare part prices... those NYSE investors must be laughing, they are up 100 pc gain on stock over 2 years, and probably drive Honda Accords, laughing at us mugs filling their pockets. If I get fked more then I will strip the thing into pieces and ebay it all off and good ridence fked and arrogant brand.....
speedbird1000 said:
It's the NYSE listing of Ferrari that fked us. The investors greed is pushing Ferrari to releasing waayyy to many models, way tooo quickly, and lo and behold prices have seriously cratered. My beautiful F12 price has cratered and with 812's cratering now, that will make it even worse. Great pity, but I fallen well out of love with the brand I admired since childhood, as a result and instead feel mugged. Look at the many california T's for sale in Exeter - for over a year- astonished no buyers, crazy. Even starting to dislike the brand now as disloyal greedy fleecers. I. E the joke spare part prices... those NYSE investors must be laughing, they are up 100 pc gain on stock over 2 years, and probably drive Honda Accords, laughing at us mugs filling their pockets. If I get fked more then I will strip the thing into pieces and ebay it all off and good ridence fked and arrogant brand.....
I have always thought that whilst Ferrari undoubtedly make some excellent cars, the whole attitude of the brand is very elitist and arrogance abounds (not the owners per se, just the whole machine behind the brand including the dealer network). Let’s say I wanted an F8 and I had the cash to buy, but have never owned a Ferrari before, could I stroll into a dealer and spec one to order? Doubt it. I haven’t accumulated enough Ferrari fawn points. Sadly Porsche seem to have the very same attitude with GT cars lately. It is frankly outrageous and discriminatory which just puts me off the brand altogether. I spend my money elsewhere as a result.
Superleg48 said:
speedbird1000 said:
It's the NYSE listing of Ferrari that fked us. The investors greed is pushing Ferrari to releasing waayyy to many models, way tooo quickly, and lo and behold prices have seriously cratered. My beautiful F12 price has cratered and with 812's cratering now, that will make it even worse. Great pity, but I fallen well out of love with the brand I admired since childhood, as a result and instead feel mugged. Look at the many california T's for sale in Exeter - for over a year- astonished no buyers, crazy. Even starting to dislike the brand now as disloyal greedy fleecers. I. E the joke spare part prices... those NYSE investors must be laughing, they are up 100 pc gain on stock over 2 years, and probably drive Honda Accords, laughing at us mugs filling their pockets. If I get fked more then I will strip the thing into pieces and ebay it all off and good ridence fked and arrogant brand.....
I have always thought that whilst Ferrari undoubtedly make some excellent cars, the whole attitude of the brand is very elitist and arrogance abounds (not the owners per se, just the whole machine behind the brand including the dealer network). Let’s say I wanted an F8 and I had the cash to buy, but have never owned a Ferrari before, could I stroll into a dealer and spec one to order? Doubt it. I haven’t accumulated enough Ferrari fawn points. Sadly Porsche seem to have the very same attitude with GT cars lately. It is frankly outrageous and discriminatory which just puts me off the brand altogether. I spend my money elsewhere as a result.
sadly it's contagious : lamborghini, mclaren and others have been trying similar games
s2000db said:
It’s all smoke and mirrors at Porsche, they made more GT3’s than any other 911 during the last production phase. It’s just that the market hasn’t yet realised that in cash terms yet.
Just clever market manipulation imo..
Agree, the 991.2 gt3 seems to be the one effected at the moment as these are already below list at trade, biggest drop I think we will see ii time is the 997 gt3 as they were slow to climb in price compared to other cars. 85k for a 997.1 gt3 is never going to stick imo. Just clever market manipulation imo..
Most gt3 cars have sat unsold for months in some cases years, the only one which seems to be selling if priced around list is the 991.2 gt3 and that’s only because it’s easy to finance due to its age and due to being the newest which many prefer.
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