When will 599's gain classic collector status

When will 599's gain classic collector status

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willy wombat

912 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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Good article in this month’s EVO about Ferrari V12 GTs. They suggest 599 currently being overlooked and great value. Also prefer non HGTE cars with which I agree unless you intend to do all your driving on track or in the mountains.

Jonny TVR

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4,534 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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I think they are fantastic value. Treating mine to some paintwork treatment this week, ready for a trip to Italy once we are allowed!

Jonny TVR

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4,534 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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Iwontlietoyou said:
I think I would give "the first digital Ferrari" to the F12. I've had a 550, 575 and now have a 599. To drive, it still feels very analogue. Lots of steering feel, and whilst you are pulling a paddle to shift gears, you still feel that you are connected to the car intimately.

I have some other more modern cars and the 599 already feels "modern classic" to me. I look at F12s and 812s but realise they will likely give me the videogame experience that my other more modern cars have - something I'm not looking for more of.

I think all three of them 550, 575 and 599 will do well in the future - the F1 gearbox is the state of the art for that time and people will appreciate it for that. Of course, a manual 575 will always be the pick of the three IMHO
well put and agree with your gearbox comments. It does still feel analogue.

Jonny TVR

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Tuesday 9th June 2020
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Gregor-lun1d

183 posts

97 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Another 599 to give an indication of the market's view on these cars:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2009-ferrari-5...

perhaps more representative than others given it's a UK delivered RHD car

Jonny TVR

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4,534 posts

281 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Its also an HGTE and very low mileage so should do well

willy wombat

912 posts

148 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I would say the only downside (assuming you want HGTE) is the colour. I really don’t think Rosso Corsa suits the 599 at all. Will be interested to see what it does. Any guesses? I’ll start the ball rolling at £95k.

DBSSV20

110 posts

46 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Too many made ( no matter how good or not they are) to ever be classic status. If the 360 is the mondeo of Ferrari, the 430 the focus etc etc... the 599 is the , ermmmm Ka!

Except for special editions...

575 backwards for the V12’s (202 sold in to the UK and those are Ferrari official figures) for future classic.

V8’s 355 backwards!

Ferrari make far more cars than they ever did and pcp’s enable more punters to buy them on the ‘never never’

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Wow, the 599 manual at Bramleys...£500k seems collector status has been reached.

WilliamWaiver

439 posts

45 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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cayman-black said:
Wow, the 599 manual at Bramleys...£500k seems collector status has been reached.
How many worldwide and how many UK RHD ?

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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I saw a manual LHD 599 at a European dealer around 2011. They wanted around €240k at the time.

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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WilliamWaiver said:
How many worldwide and how many UK RHD ?
To tell you the truth i did not know they made any manual 599,s

21ATS

1,100 posts

72 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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WilliamWaiver said:
How many worldwide and how many UK RHD ?
Approx 30 worldwide. 10 were European delivery.

So it would be reasonable to assume the number of RHD 599 manuals is in single figures.

Still, £500k is a crack pipe price given where we are in the world right now. Sure there was a 12 month window when these were realising daft prices, but that is now history.

It only takes one very wealthy collector to buy it though I guess.


WilliamWaiver

439 posts

45 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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21ATS said:
Approx 30 worldwide. 10 were European delivery.

So it would be reasonable to assume the number of RHD 599 manuals is in single figures.

Still, £500k is a crack pipe price given where we are in the world right now. Sure there was a 12 month window when these were realising daft prices, but that is now history.

It only takes one very wealthy collector to buy it though I guess.
Cheers, a rare beast indeed then and almost name your price.
Very collectable and like you say it only takes one wealthy person wanting it in their collection

Gregor-lun1d

183 posts

97 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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It’s daft money, especially when the car was designed around the F1 box

Gregor-lun1d

183 posts

97 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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The Collecting Cars 599 got to £105,000 (excl fees) and then said "unsold". Not sure if that's because there was a reserve, or for another reason. That would have been £111,000 including fees (£6k max fees I believe) which isn't too bad.

Although the car didn't sell, the 'market' clearly thought that's what it was worth. HGTE cars were sitting at or around £150k for ages in the 'good old days'...!

CitySlicker

302 posts

93 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Never had the pleasure driving the hgte pack but the ride quality of the standard car is wonderful. I recall a couple of journalists stating that they prefer the comfort of the base version and I never felt the need to stiffen up the suspension during my ownership. Actually it was one of the most redeeming features the fact that you could nail it up a mountain pass in the alps and cruise all the way back to the Uk the day after and not be tired out.

willy wombat

912 posts

148 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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I have driven HGTE cars and prefer the standard car. HGTE fine if all you plan to do is track days but who buys a 599 for that?

Gregor-lun1d

183 posts

97 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Gregor-lun1d said:
The Collecting Cars 599 got to £105,000 (excl fees) and then said "unsold". Not sure if that's because there was a reserve, or for another reason. That would have been £111,000 including fees (£6k max fees I believe) which isn't too bad.

Although the car didn't sell, the 'market' clearly thought that's what it was worth. HGTE cars were sitting at or around £150k for ages in the 'good old days'...!
The red car is back on Collecting Cars. Currently £95k

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Gregor-lun1d said:
Gregor-lun1d said:
The Collecting Cars 599 got to £105,000 (excl fees) and then said "unsold". Not sure if that's because there was a reserve, or for another reason. That would have been £111,000 including fees (£6k max fees I believe) which isn't too bad.

Although the car didn't sell, the 'market' clearly thought that's what it was worth. HGTE cars were sitting at or around £150k for ages in the 'good old days'...!
The red car is back on Collecting Cars. Currently £95k
This looks like a cracking car, very nice!