812 GTS

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bertie said:

Got the car and all I can say is wow!

Im not sure exactly what has changed from the SuperFast to the GTS but it feels like a different car.

I think they've just dialed everything back a touch so it's all a bit less frenetic and nervous, feels more composed.

It's so much more than a Superfast without a roof....and the noise!!!!!

Thats interesting. SF always feels lively, not helped by its tendency to tramline on Pirellis.

Will have to see.

[bertie]

DeejRC said:

Normal SF coupe holds no interest for me Bertie. I’ll take a normal F12 for that ty. Then a GTS in 3 yrs time.

Interesting you say that, chap on IG has got an F12 and has just sepnt a day in an 812 and posted this...

"I’ve driven the 812 superfast a few times before but after a whole morning behind the wheel on a whole mix of empty open Hebridean roads it’s clear to me that this is a truly phenomenal achievement, the most incredibly well realised and cohesive accomplishment graced of course with one of the very finest engines ever to be put into a road car.

The 812 corrects all the shortcomings of the F12, it makes the older car seem like a work progress. People say the 812 is a firmer car but that is misleading. The 812 suspension it’s just a whole generation more advanced, it damps so much quicker and with so much more feel. The net result is a machine that feels so much more car like so actually more comfortable and is now just so enjoyable at lower speeds and steady state cruising. I could drive it for days on end, it is just beautiful to pilot whatever the conditions. The same was never true of the f12, for me it only ever shone during maximum attack.

And then there is the 812 rear steering, the way this huge beast turns into a bend and then tracks the road. The handling is so precise and instrument-like, so unlike a big heavy front engine GT, that it calls into question the relevance of having a V8 mid car as well in the fleet. Pure witchcraft that’s what it is.

So alive, so visceral, scary scary amounts of power and revs, the 812 is far far too much car for anyone but all the better for it. I have not driven anything finer or more complete."

[bertie]

With todays weather, rude not to....

[Snubs]

What a fantastic car I've seen a few of these around the Cotswolds and they really stand out. Would love to hear one being wrung out.

Oddly, what stood out it me in the first post was that it was sat outside Carrs Ferrari in Exeter, which I was at for the first time on Friday. On Thursday I'd been at Carrs Jaguar in Cornwall where customer service was quite literally non-existent despite my dad being there to potentially buy a F-Type. In the Ferrari garage a bloke came straight over and we ended up chatting for about 30mins despite the fact that we weren't there to buy a car at all. Just being there with various F12s and so on being driven around outside was great.

They've currently got 2 privately owned prototypes on display, one of which is a prototype of the La Ferrari. A very early prototype I would add, with a matt black body that didn't look much like a La Ferrari bar the odd curve here and there. Whoever bought them both must have a pretty good relationship with Ferrari as only 10 La Ferrari prototypes were made.

[DeejRC]

Let me guess…he was tall, thin and bald?

All 3 of them at Carrs look like brothers! I actually asked Dominic if they did it for a bet

[mirage5512]

bertie said:

With todays weather, rude not to....

Hi Bertie,

I’ve had one of these on order for a while now and I’m just about to do the final spec.

My question is when I sat in a car at Graypaul with the same seats as your car it seemed like my eye line was very near the top of the windscreen so it feels like sitting on top of the car.

How are you finding the driving position now you’ve had it a while as I’m thinking I’m going to need to change to the sports seats. Btw I sat in a few superfast and I always felt like I was sat much lower in the coupe.

Hope you’re enjoying the car and any advice on any spec items you’d recommend would be great.

Thanks

[bertie]

mirage5512 said:

Hi Bertie,

I’ve had one of these on order for a while now and I’m just about to do the final spec.

My question is when I sat in a car at Graypaul with the same seats as your car it seemed like my eye line was very near the top of the windscreen so it feels like sitting on top of the car.

How are you finding the driving position now you’ve had it a while as I’m thinking I’m going to need to change to the sports seats. Btw I sat in a few superfast and I always felt like I was sat much lower in the coupe.

Hope you’re enjoying the car and any advice on any spec items you’d recommend would be great.

Thanks

Hi, I absolutely adore it!

I’m not tall but I find the seats fine, I guess if your 6’ plus it maybe different

I think it’s a classy car so keep the spec fairly simple and classy.
Interior carbon is a must, as is car play and high power hifi, maybe lift too

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bertie said:

mirage5512 said:

Hi Bertie,

I’ve had one of these on order for a while now and I’m just about to do the final spec.

My question is when I sat in a car at Graypaul with the same seats as your car it seemed like my eye line was very near the top of the windscreen so it feels like sitting on top of the car.

How are you finding the driving position now you’ve had it a while as I’m thinking I’m going to need to change to the sports seats. Btw I sat in a few superfast and I always felt like I was sat much lower in the coupe.

Hope you’re enjoying the car and any advice on any spec items you’d recommend would be great.

Thanks

Hi, I absolutely adore it!

I’m not tall but I find the seats fine, I guess if your 6’ plus it maybe different

I think it’s a classy car so keep the spec fairly simple and classy.
Interior carbon is a must, as is car play and high power hifi, maybe lift too

The lift is an interesting one. I really agonised over not having it, but I can honestly say in 6 months of ownership I’ve not needed a lift once. A couple of times I was thinking I did need it, but actually it was totally fine without one. Now I don’t stress about it at all. Just a FWIW.

Hifi upgrade is a must, not sure car play is though as there is no screen to operate it - kind of makes CarPlay redundant.

[bertie]

ThePackMan said:

The lift is an interesting one. I really agonised over not having it, but I can honestly say in 6 months of ownership I’ve not needed a lift once. A couple of times I was thinking I did need it, but actually it was totally fine without one. Now I don’t stress about it at all. Just a FWIW.

Hifi upgrade is a must, not sure car play is though as there is no screen to operate it - kind of makes CarPlay redundant.

I hear you on lift, I have it on some and not others, very much depneds on where and how you use the car I guess

Car play is an absolute rip off, but I think is essential if you are considering resale.
It actualy works ok as it comes up on the left hand cluster display and you use the left hand joystick.

Tricky choices both I agree.

[garystoybox]

garystoybox said:

Had lift on my first 458; never needed it and hence skipped on 2nd 458 and subsequent 488. Commented many times what a waste of money it is for most owners.
However, so pleased I have lift on my 812. I know it’s only the outside rubber strips, but without lift they rub every time I enter my garage.
The front overhang is definitely more of an issue than the mid engined cars (for me anyway). Personally, I wouldn’t have an 812 without it.

Agree with Bertie on CarPlay. ‘What a ridiculous waste of money”, I thought; but I actually use it all the time and it works nicely. Annoying that it doesn’t integrate with the passenger display though…

Hi-Fi upgrade, CarPlay and Lift were the 3 essentials for me. Also at 6 foot 3, the race seats were a requirement. Why can’t they make the left foot rest more shallow? Fortunately/Unfortunately the GTS is a no go for me due to lack of leg room making it just too uncomfortable to drive for any period of time.

Edited by garystoybox on Thursday 14th October 13:31

[bertie]

garystoybox said:

Is the legroom different in a GTS to a Superfast then?

Being a short arse I never noticed any differance.

Cant imagine why it should be different ?

[mirage5512]

bertie said:

Is the legroom different in a GTS to a Superfast then?

Being a short arse I never noticed any differance.

Cant imagine why it should be different ?

Hi there,

The Gts is definitely short on room compared to the sf.

I went to Graypaul today and sat in the Gts they have there with the sports seats and they are going to be a must for me I think as I’m only 6ft and I still feel a bit short of space but the sports seats allowed me to sit much lower in the cabin which is what I prefer.

I don’t think I’d order the lift but definitely the upgrade sound system and car play as I intend to keep the car a long time so it future proofs the cars systems.

Anyone got the adaptive cruise and the full driver assist suite on their car? Would be interested to hear what you think of it.

Thanks

[DeejRC]

Had the adaptive on the Roma I had for a week. Loathed it, but then I loathe every adaptive cruise I’ve encountered.

[mirage5512]

[mirage5512]

[mirage5512]

Hi guys,

I finalised my spec and I’ve gone with mugello and Bordeaux.

I had a 612 with a complete Bordeaux interior ten years ago and it was so much nicer in real life than in pictures so I’ve gone for that again as my ff is maranello and cuoio and I intend to keep that car as well so didn’t want two cars the same.

As it’s my first new Ferrari to my spec I HAD to order a red but I feel the mugello is quite rare so will age well resale wise but I actually intend to keep the cars for a very long time.

As I still have a little time to alter the spec does anyone have any advice now you’ve had the cars a decent amount of time now?

Many thanks

Edited to add the inner details are beige tradizione and IMO they give the interior a nice lift detail wise.

I went gold for the brake callipers as they go with the dark red well and I had an all (everything possible) leather interior.

Edited by mirage5512 on Monday 27th December 01:55

[mirage5512]

[SL550M]

Oh Lordy…that is spectacular and utterly gorgeous. Bravo!

[garystoybox]

Lovely to spec the car the way you want it and not for resale - as a likely long term keeper.
I do remember test driving a F12 with Bordeaux (agreed, it looked much better in person than the illustrator) but was put off by the windscreen reflections in sunlight. The rake of the F12 and 812 really seem to emphasise dash reflections like nothing else I’ve been in (including the dash top stripe) with anything other than black.

[Petrus1983]

That’s stunning Mirage - roll on 2022!