Every day tips for living with a 599
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928 GTS said:
At least there is some hope they eventually will have stock to sell. 599 and many others are getting to age where this isn't certain at all. 10 years from now very few parts are going to be available at all unless some aftermarket company makes them. Factory simply do not care as there isn't large enough profit for them no matter how large price they put on them. Todays solution is just wait, hope and buy everything what might be needed any time in future right now while parts are still available.
Jay Emm has a lot to say about Ferrari not caring 
I do hope that Ferrari will have parts made. Another problem is that the suppliers are locked in with Ferrari and even though Ferrari don't have stock, they won't sell to independents, as I found with the torque tube.
Then as parts become unavailable, costs sky rocket. For an independent to make these parts, it's basically done out of love and good will as there's little profit to be made. As you point out, the market is just too small.
Ted Maul said:
Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.
After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...
After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq
cake eater said:
Ted Maul said:
Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.
After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...
After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq
me too cake eater said:
cake eater said:
Ted Maul said:
Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.
After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...
After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq
From just looking at photos and videos:
First issue is complexity, the Ferrari bevel gear (crown and pinion) is visually very complicated and may require specialist tooling that he doesn't have in stock. £800 for the tooling
Bevel gear (crown and pinion) has to be machined as a matched set (Dodson said the same)
Material choices and hardening can be expensive, especially given intended application
Lead time is minimum 10 weeks
Now cost . . . 5-7 k but could be even more expensive.
My heart sank.
I'm going to have Lee send him the bevel gear set so that he can do a proper assessment and quote.
He will also require the gears to work out what tolerances are required but they can go later.
Literally
me 
cake eater said:
Bevel gear (crown and pinion) has to be machined as a matched set (Dodson said the same)
That is sometimes done even for every ratio pair in gearbox. Using non matching pairs especially in ring and pinion will likely create very noisy setup and parts wear out quickly.Its simply easier to make gears, match them together and install them as pair. Rather than make ring and pinion each individually to so high exact standard that they would work perfectly with any opposing counterpart. Even then one worn and one new couldn't work together anyway.
To any layman teeth in ring and pinion all look the same. But there are different designs for them. Some better at transferring power at lower drag and other at lower noise but causing more power loss. Gear ratio is only very basic property of them. Lots of other stuff to think about.
cake eater said:
There's a couple of gearboxes for a 599 on eBay but the risk is I buy them, split the cases only to find they have the same problem.
Best solution at the moment is the most frustrating
. . . simply wait . . .
Wait on Ferrari and wait on the quote
Sounds like that is the best option. Sorry to hear of your travails, hopefully back on the road before too long and what a day that will be after all you have been doing. Fingers crossed for you things speed up from Ferrari HQ.Best solution at the moment is the most frustrating
. . . simply wait . . .
Wait on Ferrari and wait on the quote
The build has not completely stopped.
Customs finally released the exhaust and it has arrived at MDL
For that pure F1 sound I really wanted Fiammenghi 6-1 headers but due to heat management concerns I chose Kline 6-2-1 with full heat shielding. These have the 200 cel race cats and they are positioned where the main (second cats in the system) would be. From an earlier post you'll know that there was so much heat that the engine bay heat shields had been burnt and damaged. Still waiting for Funk Motorsports to deliver the repaired engine bay heat shields.
Customs finally released the exhaust and it has arrived at MDL
For that pure F1 sound I really wanted Fiammenghi 6-1 headers but due to heat management concerns I chose Kline 6-2-1 with full heat shielding. These have the 200 cel race cats and they are positioned where the main (second cats in the system) would be. From an earlier post you'll know that there was so much heat that the engine bay heat shields had been burnt and damaged. Still waiting for Funk Motorsports to deliver the repaired engine bay heat shields.
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