Every day tips for living with a 599

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DeejRC said:

I am glad you didn t buy that novitec rear wing, after you said it had to be pretty - that is uuugly.
Two points to always consider:
1) Front and rear aero always works in conjunction, not isolation
2) Rear diffusers on road cars are almost always useless. You, though, are arguably the exception to the rule as you are Mr 599 Track Car - ergo you will probably get a diffuser actually working for you.
This raises a very different consideration though - you want/need a proper working bit of kit. Anything you buy as a bit of road car fashion accessory will almost certainly *not* provide or work as you require/expect.

As standard, in a straight line on smooth roads, the car is nicely balanced and she's fast through the air. I don't want to spoil that. Suspension, tyres and geometry have helped a lot in improving mechanical grip. But at higher cornering speeds she gets upset and she's very flighty over crests.

On corner entry trail braking she needs a little more stability especially at the rear and I definitely don't want too much added rear down force that will induce understeer. I am hoping the Novitec front spoiler is designed to work with the Novitec rear diffuser and maintain the F/R balance and the boot lip spoiler will make everything more efficient.

I read somewhere that just a few KG of added down force can make a huge difference to the handling. And this is what I'm looking for. I don't want an FXX looking track car or a GTB masquerading as a GTO. Something where I can say 'totally standard' nudge wink and not look out of place.

Anyway, I am worried I'll spoil the car and I'll end up slower because I've introduced something that effects the cars natural balance negatively. At least the aero bits can be easily removed.

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I'm getting a little excited for for final product.

Robin at
https://rabtarcomposite.ch/index.html
who will do the manufacturing has engaged his friend Édouard Suzeau
https://edouardsuzeau.myportfolio.com/work
to do the design. Looking at his work I'm hopeful for a product that's esthetically pleasing as well as functional.

I've also told Robin that the design options will be QC'd by DeejRC, so if the final product is useless I'll know who to blame

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ANOpax said:

Good Lord. How did you come across those guys?!
Given Edouard s portfolio we re now primed to expect something wild for your car!

Too much time refining Google searches. I hope not too wild.

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ANOpax said:

cake eater said:

Too much time refining Google searches. I hope not too wild.

C mon don t commission Damien Hirst and expect him to give you the Mona Lisa.

Accept that you ve commissioned wild and embrace it!

Edited by ANOpax on Saturday 21st March 22:53

Yeah Baby! Yeah!
https://youtu.be/JBHKVAs85Ko?is=55HAX4Y14S_UEJli

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DeejRC said:

You really don t do things by halves do you old boy?!

Yeah, I really know how to everything up

I was looking at 599s on your behalf
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202603030...

I know, you know, 'its an investment'
If you can keep a straight face when you say it, your doing well and more than halfway to convincing yourself that it's actually true

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HP

Have you seen the "Borrow till you die" tax optimisation? (BTW it's BS)

Or try this with the tax man
https://youtube.com/shorts/3DdjJRkbl3g?si=ka7xc6lc...

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Shiny bits have arrived



Not so shiny bit


Now Lee can arrange for the crank, pistons and connecting rods assembly to be sent for balancing before Isotropic Super Finishing.

Exhaust is supposed to arrive at customs tomorrow.

Funk Motorsports modified/ repaired engine bay heat shields are due middle to late April.

Ferrari are still being useless about sending the gearbox parts.

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puckrup said:

Christmas has come all at once with Pandora's box of shiny bits!

Santa only delivered half the presents.

Customs have decided that additional documents are required for the exhaust. Ferrari are dithering over gearbox parts and won't say why they will not release them.

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I have requested a design for the B9 Tilletts. This is what Archie came up with.



I like the head rest, maybe the dot of the 'T' could be yellow?

The main two seat panels are too plain. I've asked for black stitching to be added.

Or should I do something completely different?
This is the current interior

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WCZ said:

how much will they weigh?

If I remember rightly it should be around -/+ 3.5 kg for the bare seat. Will have to add the frame and seat pads and that will take to +/- 7-8 kg.

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Today Lee is building up the crank rotating assembly so that it can be sent for balancing along with the fly wheel.





Shiny

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Unfortunately bad news from Ferrari, they will not release the bevel gear set despite having 'available' stock. Unofficially these items are either damaged or sub standard and new parts will not be available till the end of May with no guarantee of delivery date.

Item 10



I'm at a loss as to what to do to circumvent this delay.

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PRO5T said:

cake eater said:

I'm at a loss as to what to do to circumvent this delay.

Surely there must be someone in the UK who can remake one from your original?

I've emailed 2 companies to see if it's possible and I'm awaiting for their reply.

I have my fingers crossed.

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928 GTS said:

At least there is some hope they eventually will have stock to sell. 599 and many others are getting to age where this isn't certain at all. 10 years from now very few parts are going to be available at all unless some aftermarket company makes them. Factory simply do not care as there isn't large enough profit for them no matter how large price they put on them. Todays solution is just wait, hope and buy everything what might be needed any time in future right now while parts are still available.

Jay Emm has a lot to say about Ferrari not caring

I do hope that Ferrari will have parts made. Another problem is that the suppliers are locked in with Ferrari and even though Ferrari don't have stock, they won't sell to independents, as I found with the torque tube.

Then as parts become unavailable, costs sky rocket. For an independent to make these parts, it's basically done out of love and good will as there's little profit to be made. As you point out, the market is just too small.

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Ted Maul said:

Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.

After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed
https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...

After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq

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On a more fun note. I've narrowed the Tillett seats design to two options

1


2


I'm learning towards #2. I like the little splash of yellow, to match the Ferrari badge on the steering wheel and rev counter.

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Hughesie said:

They Alcantara or leather ?

Leather for both the black and burgundy but I'm thinking of alcantara for the black.

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Ted Maul said:

Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.

After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed
https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...

After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq

So far, not good. Dodson Motorsport are interested but need a much bigger manufacturing number and would want to make a paired set to ensure compatibility.

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Ted Maul said:

Been following you for a while, hope you get stuff sorted soon.

Thank you me too

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cake eater said:

cake eater said:

Ted Maul said:

Not dissimilar problems for the F430 as well, flywheels almost non-existent and reverse gear (I think) not available at all.

After initial despondency and polite kick up the arse from from PRO5T I've emailed
https://llewellinsgears.co.uk/capabilities/reverse...

After the experience of @pinderwagen with custom / non OEM parts I'm wary. Let's see what they come up with, cost, timeline etc.
https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=INPa_4xs82oNiOPq

So far, not good. Dodson Motorsport are interested but need a much bigger manufacturing number and would want to make a paired set to ensure compatibility.

I spoke with Llewellin Gears and they're happy to help but wanted to have me fully grounded and understand the costs and timeline for one off reverse engineering.

From just looking at photos and videos:

First issue is complexity, the Ferrari bevel gear (crown and pinion) is visually very complicated and may require specialist tooling that he doesn't have in stock. £800 for the tooling

Bevel gear (crown and pinion) has to be machined as a matched set (Dodson said the same)

Material choices and hardening can be expensive, especially given intended application

Lead time is minimum 10 weeks

Now cost . . . 5-7 k but could be even more expensive.

My heart sank.

I'm going to have Lee send him the bevel gear set so that he can do a proper assessment and quote.
He will also require the gears to work out what tolerances are required but they can go later.

Literally me