Challenge Stradale thread
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My take aways form the track day with the new geometry set up and the Michelins vs Pirelli's
- Definitely more grip, especially on turn-in with with the wider Michelins
- The car did feel more plated but the feel was "stoggy" and less alive vs the Pirellis
- I could not feel any material difference with the new geo set up
I think I will go back to the Pirellis when I ware these ones out.
It was really good to get he CS out to stretch her legs
- Definitely more grip, especially on turn-in with with the wider Michelins
- The car did feel more plated but the feel was "stoggy" and less alive vs the Pirellis
- I could not feel any material difference with the new geo set up
I think I will go back to the Pirellis when I ware these ones out.
It was really good to get he CS out to stretch her legs
Slickhillsy said:
AmoCS said:
Issue 9 / Autumn Enzo Magazine.
"Is it possible to pick just one from this five? in many respects the Challenge Stradale is the high point"
Care to finish your quote for us....? Which one did he say he'd drive away? #Scud "Is it possible to pick just one from this five? in many respects the Challenge Stradale is the high point"
355fiorano said:
My take aways form the track day with the new geometry set up and the Michelins vs Pirelli's
- Definitely more grip, especially on turn-in with with the wider Michelins
- The car did feel more plated but the feel was "stoggy" and less alive vs the Pirellis
- I could not feel any material difference with the new geo set up
I think I will go back to the Pirellis when I ware these ones out.
It was really good to get he CS out to stretch her legs
That's exactly how it felt for me when switching from Pirellis to Michelins on my 430. The sidewalls on the Michelins are softer which can make them feel 'stodgy' initially. I found that I needed to firstly run them 1 or 2 PSI firmer, and secondly adjust my turn-in so that I loaded them up earlier in the corner. Once I did that I found I could lean on them much harder, the limit was higher, and beyond the limit was more progressive. After that there was no going back. The Pirellis feel more 'alive' initially only due to the limit of grip being closer and more edgy - at least that was my experience.- Definitely more grip, especially on turn-in with with the wider Michelins
- The car did feel more plated but the feel was "stoggy" and less alive vs the Pirellis
- I could not feel any material difference with the new geo set up
I think I will go back to the Pirellis when I ware these ones out.
It was really good to get he CS out to stretch her legs
I just did another track day and I think I am getting use to them. The grip is indeed very impressive and as you say, it is quite progressive at the limit.
I'll still go back to Pirellis next time and see if I then don't like those ... I just need to be a bit careful when I go back to having less grip!
I'll still go back to Pirellis next time and see if I then don't like those ... I just need to be a bit careful when I go back to having less grip!
Was for sale for £330k in 2016
http://www.challenge-stradale.com/134464.html
i wonder what they are asking for it now ... £240k ?
http://www.challenge-stradale.com/134464.html
i wonder what they are asking for it now ... £240k ?
Very few CS's seem to be selling. While all cars bought 5 years ago or so are worth much more than was paid for them then, there is no doubt that prices have fallen dramatically.
The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
Ffffaster said:
Very few CS's seem to be selling. While all cars bought 5 years ago or so are worth much more than was paid for them then, there is no doubt that prices have fallen dramatically.
The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
Guesstimate 140 +/- 5?The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
utgjon said:
Ffffaster said:
Very few CS's seem to be selling. While all cars bought 5 years ago or so are worth much more than was paid for them then, there is no doubt that prices have fallen dramatically.
The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
Guesstimate 140 +/- 5?The CS soared too high, too fast. It will get back there in time, but it has too earn it like the rest of the cars that see this kind of appreciation.
I wonder what a left hooker in the UK with about 20,000 miles would be worth (i.e. not the prices from the dealer, but the actual sales price) today? Might be a good time to buy one as prices are softer than they have been in a long time.
AmoCS said:
Question is how much for.A friend of mine was looking for one and enquired, he was informed deposit had been paid almost immediately and the car was being marked sold whilst due diligence was carried out by the new prospective owner. He was informed that the asking price if buyer dropped out was £275 firm. Great looking car ,only slight downside was a non factory stripe.
Anyone had their CCM brake discs and pads done on their CS. I think I may be running a bit low and interested in anyone's feedback as to how best to do it most cost efficiently.
Eurospares seems to have discs at £2200 a corner and £620 a corner for pads ... that makes it £11,280 before labour.
If I went to a main dealer I suspect they would not fit the eurospares parts and would also charge a lot more for them as well.
The other worrying thing is that they seem to have worn quite quickly. I am thinking maybe best to get a new CCM kit but actually fit steel discs to use but I am not really sure haw much more expensive this will be....
Eurospares seems to have discs at £2200 a corner and £620 a corner for pads ... that makes it £11,280 before labour.
If I went to a main dealer I suspect they would not fit the eurospares parts and would also charge a lot more for them as well.
The other worrying thing is that they seem to have worn quite quickly. I am thinking maybe best to get a new CCM kit but actually fit steel discs to use but I am not really sure haw much more expensive this will be....
355fiorano said:
Anyone had their CCM brake discs and pads done on their CS. I think I may be running a bit low and interested in anyone's feedback as to how best to do it most cost efficiently.
Eurospares seems to have discs at £2200 a corner and £620 a corner for pads ... that makes it £11,280 before labour.
If I went to a main dealer I suspect they would not fit the eurospares parts and would also charge a lot more for them as well.
The other worrying thing is that they seem to have worn quite quickly. I am thinking maybe best to get a new CCM kit but actually fit steel discs to use but I am not really sure haw much more expensive this will be....
Several Ferrari specialists have vast experience with this very issue. Best solution for road use and cost effectiveness is to replace with steels. I had my 430 ceramics refurbed by Sicom about five years ago then fitted by Autofficina but in hindsight I should have fitted steels too, pedal feel is better and for road driving the difference is negligible. Plus no squeal.Eurospares seems to have discs at £2200 a corner and £620 a corner for pads ... that makes it £11,280 before labour.
If I went to a main dealer I suspect they would not fit the eurospares parts and would also charge a lot more for them as well.
The other worrying thing is that they seem to have worn quite quickly. I am thinking maybe best to get a new CCM kit but actually fit steel discs to use but I am not really sure haw much more expensive this will be....
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