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Slickhillsy said:
Thanks for this...
Having owned a Scud and now that you have a CS how would you compare the running costs / ownership experience?
I didn't really use the Scud: wife didn't like (hated) the color so pretty much sold it a couple months after having it boughtHaving owned a Scud and now that you have a CS how would you compare the running costs / ownership experience?
But having ran a couple Ferraris from this era (360, 2x Strad, 575 HGTC) I can only say that engine/box are solid...it's everything else that causes trouble and is mega expensive.
For the little mileage I did with the Scud, I love the Strad a lot more (more of an event, less carpets, more noise) and I think (that's purely personal) that design wise it ages a lot better than the Scud.
Performance wise, of course the Scud is faster (a lot faster some will say) and definitely easier to live with on a daily basis (suspension copes better with the London s
tty streets than Strad).But I personally have more fun with the Strad
to Mark: these cars are never cheap to run, from new to old...they are close to 15years old now, I would always expect to spend between 2-3,000£ a year to run them properly, 3-5,000km a year
Here are my last heavy invoices 2013 and 2015...pure maintenance
Enjoy
Car booked in for next week for what I think will be 2.5-3,000£ bill: small service + track rods and front ball joints
Here are my last heavy invoices 2013 and 2015...pure maintenance
Enjoy
Car booked in for next week for what I think will be 2.5-3,000£ bill: small service + track rods and front ball joints
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 10th March 13:24
Ever thought of switching to Lambo or McLaren with those bills..? It isn't a badge of honour to have to spend so much on a car that does so few miles! What on earth do you do to your cars? Or is a feature of owning a Ferrari?
I owned a Diablo for nearly 10 years, even used it as a station commute for a couple of them. Apart from changing the clutch which was a few thousand my bills were under £1k every year. In fact it was cheaper to run then my M5. It was bullet proof in comparison to your Ferrari.
I owned a Diablo for nearly 10 years, even used it as a station commute for a couple of them. Apart from changing the clutch which was a few thousand my bills were under £1k every year. In fact it was cheaper to run then my M5. It was bullet proof in comparison to your Ferrari.
WDISMYL said:
Ever thought of switching to Lambo or McLaren with those bills..? It isn't a badge of honour to have to spend so much on a car that does so few miles! What on earth do you do to your cars? Or is a feature of owning a Ferrari?
I owned a Diablo for nearly 10 years, even used it as a station commute for a couple of them. Apart from changing the clutch which was a few thousand my bills were under £1k every year. In fact it was cheaper to run then my M5. It was bullet proof in comparison to your Ferrari.
2-3,000£ average a year for any of these brands don't seem huge to me...sorry am not running on a thin thread here! I owned a Diablo for nearly 10 years, even used it as a station commute for a couple of them. Apart from changing the clutch which was a few thousand my bills were under £1k every year. In fact it was cheaper to run then my M5. It was bullet proof in comparison to your Ferrari.
and my cars do between 4-10kkm a year...my Strad currently has 53,000km
Bulletproof - yes my Strads have been so far, never given up on me whether it was around a track or a 3,000 km holiday trip. At no moment have I thought I shouldn't take it out as I feared a break down or something.
Hey just trying to help here...if you think it can be run for a lot less...well glad to know
note: I've also had 964RS, 993turbo, 997RS and trust me, they don't cost much less to run either
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 10th March 15:23
Fair enough. Good to see an owner properly using his cars.
I do think more generally that people are terribly precious about "preserving value". They end up doing few miles, somehow take great pleasure in handing over a huge sum for the annual service and more often than not get very little for their money. It seems rather pointless.
I prefer to buy a car with the view to hold for at least 10 years, find a passionate trustworthy independent and get the car serviced properly for a genuine price.
I do think more generally that people are terribly precious about "preserving value". They end up doing few miles, somehow take great pleasure in handing over a huge sum for the annual service and more often than not get very little for their money. It seems rather pointless.
I prefer to buy a car with the view to hold for at least 10 years, find a passionate trustworthy independent and get the car serviced properly for a genuine price.
I bought my Strad in from Italy a couple of years ago. It's relatively high mileage, but I can use it! It was owned by a business man, used as a road car, fully serviced through its life at main dealers in Italy. (Fairly rare on the continent). I wouldn't advise my buying route necessarily but I checked it over myself at the dealer in Italy, got a good deal, took it straight to my favoured indy back here who sees a lot of them and (fortunately!) he said it was an incredibly clean one and a great purchase. I've done no more than servicing and a few odds and sods, brake servo etc. It's going back to Italy for summer and back to Le Mans this year. It really depends what you want the car for- for the price of a low mileage RHD I've been lucky enough to get a higher mileage LHD CS and my 996GT3RS, both of which I can jump in and drive without worrying about adding 1000 miles to them. Both are better when they are used, I bought them both because I love them to drive first, look at second and not lose too much £££ last. Life's too short and I'm lucky enough to have them to use- just wish I had more time! Personally there will always be a delta between the average and the best, the question is from an 'asset' point of view is if the best rise at 10% and others at say 8%, is the 2% you lose worth the extra driving experience. If the market says the same and you buy well it's a non issue is it not, and if it drops you lose less! Buy a good one and enjoy!
GarethRR said:
I bought my Strad in from Italy a couple of years ago. It's relatively high mileage, but I can use it!
What's your relatively high mileage Gareth, if you don't mind me asking? Am sure it will reassure quite a few people here: these cars are meant to be driven and actually age/do better when they are
911Thrasher said:
GarethRR said:
I bought my Strad in from Italy a couple of years ago. It's relatively high mileage, but I can use it!
What's your relatively high mileage Gareth, if you don't mind me asking? Am sure it will reassure quite a few people here: these cars are meant to be driven and actually age/do better when they are
My experience is similar to Gareth's. In early 2014 I purchased 2 owner LHD CS from a Dutch Ferrari specialist personally recommended to me. Car had a fully documented service history with mileage at 52k km when I purchased and now at 60k km.
Service wise it's cost me just on £9k over 3 years, including replacement of the front ball joints - use Hill Engineering ball joints rather than OE which are made of chocolate. This also includes a new set of tyres - I replaced the Pirelli Corsa's with Michelin PSS's.
Cosmetically I splashed out when I purchased the car with a top quality restorative detail which included a stip down and repaint of the brake calipers.
My experience is that mechanical reliability is great - such a sweet engine - but the elections are typically flakey.
A wonderful car that I use for high days and can also be seen at a couple of the FOC track days.
Service wise it's cost me just on £9k over 3 years, including replacement of the front ball joints - use Hill Engineering ball joints rather than OE which are made of chocolate. This also includes a new set of tyres - I replaced the Pirelli Corsa's with Michelin PSS's.
Cosmetically I splashed out when I purchased the car with a top quality restorative detail which included a stip down and repaint of the brake calipers.
My experience is that mechanical reliability is great - such a sweet engine - but the elections are typically flakey.
A wonderful car that I use for high days and can also be seen at a couple of the FOC track days.
Car Mad Dave said:
My experience is similar to Gareth's. In early 2014 I purchased 2 owner LHD CS from a Dutch Ferrari specialist personally recommended to me. Car had a fully documented service history with mileage at 52k km when I purchased and now at 60k km.
Service wise it's cost me just on £9k over 3 years, including replacement of the front ball joints - use Hill Engineering ball joints rather than OE which are made of chocolate. This also includes a new set of tyres - I replaced the Pirelli Corsa's with Michelin PSS's.
Cosmetically I splashed out when I purchased the car with a top quality restorative detail which included a stip down and repaint of the brake calipers.
My experience is that mechanical reliability is great - such a sweet engine - but the elections are typically flakey.
A wonderful car that I use for high days and can also be seen at a couple of the FOC track days.
Let me know when you are heading to your next FOC track day and I'll try and join you Dave! Service wise it's cost me just on £9k over 3 years, including replacement of the front ball joints - use Hill Engineering ball joints rather than OE which are made of chocolate. This also includes a new set of tyres - I replaced the Pirelli Corsa's with Michelin PSS's.
Cosmetically I splashed out when I purchased the car with a top quality restorative detail which included a stip down and repaint of the brake calipers.
My experience is that mechanical reliability is great - such a sweet engine - but the elections are typically flakey.
A wonderful car that I use for high days and can also be seen at a couple of the FOC track days.
Careful at Silverstone boys! Our cars are way out there at the end of the straights downshifting
My exhaust is barely 3years old and 2,000km and it's LOUD...
Am in Barcelona then, but would have been indeed lots of fun especially if we can be guaranteed to track all day
My exhaust is barely 3years old and 2,000km and it's LOUD...
Am in Barcelona then, but would have been indeed lots of fun especially if we can be guaranteed to track all day
Edited by 911Thrasher on Saturday 11th March 23:39
http://www.rmsothebys.com/pa17/paris/lots/2004-fer...
Yellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
Yellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
AdvocatusD said:
http://www.rmsothebys.com/pa17/paris/lots/2004-fer...
Yellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
+ taxesYellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
And it's yellow, not for everyone
But it did look sublime: I know the ex french owner
911Thrasher said:
AdvocatusD said:
http://www.rmsothebys.com/pa17/paris/lots/2004-fer...
Yellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
+ taxesYellow CS with 28,000 KM sells for EUR 168,000. Fairly low in the grand scheme of things. Maybe sanity returning to the market?
And it's yellow, not for everyone
But it did look sublime: I know the ex french owner
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