Forghieri speaks on the Glickenhaus car

[astroarcadia]

I'm sure this debate is now a matter of principal for those involved but can somebody break this down to level 1 for me...

If the Glickenhaus car is the Daytona winner what is the uplift in value with this added provenance?

[miurasv]

astroarcadia said:

I'm sure this debate is now a matter of principal for those involved but can somebody break this down to level 1 for me...

If the Glickenhaus car is the Daytona winner what is the uplift in value with this added provenance?

Have you read my post of earlier today?

[4rephill]

ferrisbueller said:

miurasv said:

Blah

Would you mind clarifying what your interest is here please?

He seems to get some sort of obsessive pleasure in hounding Napolis at every opportunity, determined to prove to World somehow that Napolis is some sort of evil, lying conman when it comes to his car collection and make his life a misery! (He did exactly the same thing on Ferrarichat.com [where there was a suggestion of a hidden agenda being involved] ) - It's quite sad really!

Why Napolis has continued to have any interaction with him whatsoever is beyond Me in all honesty - I'd have ignored him years ago and just got on and enjoyed My car collection if I were Napolis, because life's just too short for this st!

[astroarcadia]

miurasv said:

Have you read my post of earlier today?

Yes.

[miurasv]

4rephill said:

He seems to get some sort of obsessive pleasure in hounding Napolis at every opportunity, determined to prove to World somehow that Napolis is some sort of evil, lying conman when it comes to his car collection and make his life a misery! (He did exactly the same thing on Ferrarichat.com [where there was a suggestion of a hidden agenda being involved] ) - It's quite sad really!

Why Napolis has continued to have any interaction with him whatsoever is beyond Me in all honesty - I'd have ignored him years ago and just got on and enjoyed My car collection if I were Napolis, because life's just too short for this st!

You are absolutely wrong. My only interest is in Ferrari History not being distorted. However there is an example of Mr Glickenhaus's lying on the 11th of May about the engine mountings on his chassis in the pic/text attached below.

[Silent1]

4rephill said:

ferrisbueller said:

miurasv said:

Blah

Would you mind clarifying what your interest is here please?

He seems to get some sort of obsessive pleasure in hounding Napolis at every opportunity, determined to prove to World somehow that Napolis is some sort of evil, lying conman when it comes to his car collection and make his life a misery! (He did exactly the same thing on Ferrarichat.com [where there was a suggestion of a hidden agenda being involved] ) - It's quite sad really!

Why Napolis has continued to have any interaction with him whatsoever is beyond Me in all honesty - I'd have ignored him years ago and just got on and enjoyed My car collection if I were Napolis, because life's just too short for this st!

He also appears to enjoy harassing an old man in Italy and constantly harassing/bullying him into changing his mind at every turn, whatever his issue is I do find it to be disgusting the amount of contact he has whenever forghieri says something not in line with his narrative.

[Silent1]

miurasv said:

4rephill said:

He seems to get some sort of obsessive pleasure in hounding Napolis at every opportunity, determined to prove to World somehow that Napolis is some sort of evil, lying conman when it comes to his car collection and make his life a misery! (He did exactly the same thing on Ferrarichat.com [where there was a suggestion of a hidden agenda being involved] ) - It's quite sad really!

Why Napolis has continued to have any interaction with him whatsoever is beyond Me in all honesty - I'd have ignored him years ago and just got on and enjoyed My car collection if I were Napolis, because life's just too short for this st!

You are absolutely wrong. My only interest is in Ferrari History not being distorted. However there is an example of Mr Glickenhaus's lying on the 11th of May about the engine mountings on his chassis in the pic/text attached below.

This is obsessive, as in mentally unwell to be stalking someone.

[topjay]

(Pantomime voice on) Oh no he didn't! (much laughter)

[camshafted]

This is continuing on the Ferrari Chat forum as well, where there are almost 8,000 posts!

[ferrisbueller]

And he still won't tell us what his interest is.

Weird doesn't begin to cover it.

[Petrus1983]

This really is the thread that keeps giving

I heard on the grapevine that the car in question has never even been to Italy and was infact made from the first Model T Ford painted in red - I have loads of documentation to prove it, but I'm not prepared to share it.

[Burwood]

ferrisbueller said:

And he still won't tell us what his interest is.

Weird doesn't begin to cover it.

It's pretty obvious to me even though I think he's a dick

[miurasv]

Just bringing this thread up to date for those interested. Proof has now been found in the form of photographs by the noted photo journalist Karl Ludvigsen of the real Ferrari P3/P4 0846 at Daytona in 1967 that it had the engine mountings properly converted to have perfect engine mounts to fit the P4 engine. The real 0846 did not retain its P3 engine mounts, or "vestigial P3 engine mountings" as Mr Glickenhaus likes to call them, when it was converted to P4 as he maintains. Mr Glickenhaus's car does not even have P3 engine mounts.

[miurasv]

[miurasv]

The picture of the 0846 stamp is a blow up of the picture above. You can see that these pictures are of the same car. Details including the scratches and marks on the tube with the stamp on prove it.

Edited by miurasv on Tuesday 19th July 13:55

[miurasv]

Compare the right forward side engine mounting on the Glickenhaus car above with the real 0846 pictured at Daytona 1967. They are clearly not the same. The captions on the above picture are Mr Glickenhaus's disproved explanations of how the engine mountings identify his car as 0846.

[miurasv]

You can see that the mount on the real 0846 pictured at Daytona 1967 is the same as the one on P4 0858 with the large bolt hole.

[anonymous-user]

OP, you really do need to sit in a dark, cool room and chill.

This is not healthy!

[miurasv]

In this picture, which is Mr Glickenhaus's own picture from his 0846 on line pdf, you can see his car chassis DP0003 from the back. Please ignore the red circles and arrows in this picture.

Edited by miurasv on Tuesday 19th July 18:55

[miurasv]

This picture with the yellow circle and yellow arrows is a blow up of the one in the last post of the left hand side rear engine mount. Within the yellow circle, the arrow pointing down is at the angled bracket to compensate for the engine mounting not lining up with the chassis engine mount. The arrow pointing up is where the angled bracket actually bolts to the engine.