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Jonny TVR said:
Were they real bids?
The same 2 bidders were after both the F40 and Enzo so draw your own conclusions.Maybe those 2 cars were never there to be sold, rather draw attention to the other cars which I think it's fair to say were a few leagues below.
I don't see how the F40 was a good buy at even £500k less than the high bid, there are other more original cars around for similar money.
And it's not like the seller needs the money...
bryn_p said:
Jonny TVR said:
Were they real bids?
The same 2 bidders were after both the F40 and Enzo so draw your own conclusions.Maybe those 2 cars were never there to be sold, rather draw attention to the other cars which I think it's fair to say were a few leagues below.
I don't see how the F40 was a good buy at even £500k less than the high bid, there are other more original cars around for similar money.
And it's not like the seller needs the money...
I really struggle to see what it achieved for anyone involved….the bidders, seller or CC.
Zadkiel said:
It seems highly unusual that that amount would not have met reserve. Would be great if anyone knew the true story here.
See there is a F40 in RM sothebys auction on the 5th November,from a large collection,estimate is £1.4-£1.6 million which seems more realistic (can't believe i just said that )
rat rod said:
Zadkiel said:
It seems highly unusual that that amount would not have met reserve. Would be great if anyone knew the true story here.
See there is a F40 in RM sothebys auction on the 5th November,from a large collection,estimate is £1.4-£1.6 million which seems more realistic (can't believe i just said that )
jwdh1 said:
rat rod said:
Zadkiel said:
It seems highly unusual that that amount would not have met reserve. Would be great if anyone knew the true story here.
See there is a F40 in RM sothebys auction on the 5th November,from a large collection,estimate is £1.4-£1.6 million which seems more realistic (can't believe i just said that )
but didn't here what had happened till the next day ,couldn't help feeling a little sorry for the guilty salesman in question ,nice lad but to much of a car
nut to resist the temptation He got sacked not for crashing the F40 but for leaving the showroom unattended ,suppose they couldn't say
he didn't have permission to take it out as there was the chance the insurance company may have wriggled ,
Another time i was in QV's and they were busy looking for body parts for a F40 but not through the normal Ferrari network as the owner
didn't want it known that he had crashed his car ,not a easy task i should imagine, apparently he had gone out for a Christmas morning blast
and run out of talent, must have put a damper on the Christmas fastivities.
Edited by rat rod on Friday 28th October 22:42
rat rod said:
jwdh1 said:
rat rod said:
Zadkiel said:
It seems highly unusual that that amount would not have met reserve. Would be great if anyone knew the true story here.
See there is a F40 in RM sothebys auction on the 5th November,from a large collection,estimate is £1.4-£1.6 million which seems more realistic (can't believe i just said that )
but didn't here what had happened till the next day ,couldn't help feeling a little sorry for the guilty salesman in question ,nice lad but to much of a car
nut to resist the temptation He got sacked not for crashing the F40 but for leaving the showroom unattended ,suppose they couldn't say
he didn't have permission to take it out as there was the chance the insurance company may have wriggled ,
Another time i was in QV's and they were busy looking for body parts for a F40 but not through the normal Ferrari network as the owner
didn't want it known that he had crashed his car ,not a easy task i should imagine, apparently he had gone out for a Christmas morning blast
and run out of talent, must have put a damper on the Christmas fastivities.
Edited by rat rod on Friday 28th October 22:42
Does anyone know what the reserve was on the blue CC F40, didn't that hit around 2.1m without being sold?
Those non sale prices make no sense to me……
On the F40 crashes, I recall one specialist telling me that a customer managed to hit the barrier leaving the Dartford bridge tolls! Not sure how that was possible as it must be eight lanes wide. I do also recall at one stage the classic policy I had included track cover for your Ferrari but specifically excluded F40! Unfortunately it was irrelevant for me.
For me the 288 was the car. The F50 was under appreciated for a long time but that has now caught up and is rare. The F40 is fantastic but they made four or five times the numbers. All of this is armchair opinion, I have never owned or even been in any of the three, closest I got was an agreement to a passenger ride at Goodwood in an F40 which then sadly failed the noise test!
On the F40 crashes, I recall one specialist telling me that a customer managed to hit the barrier leaving the Dartford bridge tolls! Not sure how that was possible as it must be eight lanes wide. I do also recall at one stage the classic policy I had included track cover for your Ferrari but specifically excluded F40! Unfortunately it was irrelevant for me.
For me the 288 was the car. The F50 was under appreciated for a long time but that has now caught up and is rare. The F40 is fantastic but they made four or five times the numbers. All of this is armchair opinion, I have never owned or even been in any of the three, closest I got was an agreement to a passenger ride at Goodwood in an F40 which then sadly failed the noise test!
Jonny TVR said:
There is one I've noticed on the coming soon section of CC.
very interested to see what happens with this car, especially after it goes live and can review it's history.I see there's another Enzo for sale, seems to have stalled around 2.4m with 4 days to go, looks like a nice car as well
I noticed the enzo too .. also these coming up in a few days time.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
Jonny TVR said:
I noticed the enzo too .. also these coming up in a few days time.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
rat_rod shared the F40 (wondered why it was so cheap https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lot...
) - from what they say in the literature it's had a little mishap, both cars have been properly used, the Enzo has over 71k km on it!Jonny TVR said:
The CC f40 has gone live and is £1m already
came on to "Live" very quickly didn't it! I think this car will be a very good indicator of where the F40 market is (and where people are willing to invest still, given global economics) as it's a nice, clean, unmolested and fairly low mileage example. I'd expect this to hit 1.7-1.8m in a good market?Jules Sunley said:
We still don't know the story of the last F40 on CC. All very odd with such high bids and then 'unsold'. I'd have thought someone would know and have shared why by now.
I'd agree with that, something awry going on there, hit big numbers very quickly and wasn't what could be termed a "good" F40. Current one ticks all the boxes and is at 1.75m with 6 days to go so my 1.8m estimate is looking low!jwdh1 said:
I'd agree with that, something awry going on there, hit big numbers very quickly and wasn't what could be termed a "good" F40. Current one ticks all the boxes and is at 1.75m with 6 days to go so my 1.8m estimate is looking low!
The thing is that with any auction until it has actually hit the reserve the bids are not necessarily real. I say this not with specific reference to CC, but generally.Gassing Station | Ferrari Classics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff