Performante Options ...

Performante Options ...

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Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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The bucket seats on the GSL and HP are fine. As above, a race car must have race seats.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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I agree the bucket seats are very firm but I still find them comfortable and a good fit for my small but athletic frame. For short journeys and quick blasts they are perfectly acceptable but for a 3,000 mile cruise across Europe I think I would take the 650S Spider anyway.
Cant imagine the bucket seats would be great for a large, taller and bigger framed, to be polite, person but even so "comfort" seats whether it be in a Huracan Performante or Porsche GT3 would completely put me off the car off if I was buying it second hand.
If I was larger I still think I would rather put up with a bit of discomfort than spec the car wrongly and effect residuals IMHO

RR50

73 posts

142 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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I guess it depends on what shape you are but I don't see the issue with the carbon buckets. Yes they are hard but so are the comfort ones and this is more than offset by the better side support in my opinion.

It seems incongruous to me to have heavy motorised and heated comfort seats in a track oriented car.

X-Box

233 posts

234 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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RR50 said:
I guess it depends on what shape you are but I don't see the issue with the carbon buckets. Yes they are hard but so are the comfort ones and this is more than offset by the better side support in my opinion.

It seems incongruous to me to have heavy motorised and heated comfort seats in a track oriented car.
Yep, only thing worse would be to opt for a leather interior and completely pull its teeth!!

X-Box

233 posts

234 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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RR50 said:
I am under the impression that the £600 ones (which I have ordered) are carpet with the Performante script and inverted stitching/border.
This is what I imagined after seeing the optional Huracan mats (small tricolore under H-logo).

Never seen a carpet with Performante script and inverted stitching/border in any car though!

Edited by X-Box on Friday 27th October 08:39

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I can get top quality carpet mats with the edging and Performante logo coloured to choice if I want that for £65 so not a lot of sense paying out £600 imho

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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RamboLambo said:
I agree the bucket seats are very firm but I still find them comfortable and a good fit for my small but athletic frame. For short journeys and quick blasts they are perfectly acceptable but for a 3,000 mile cruise across Europe I think I would take the 650S Spider anyway.
Cant imagine the bucket seats would be great for a large, taller and bigger framed, to be polite, person but even so "comfort" seats whether it be in a Huracan Performante or Porsche GT3 would completely put me off the car off if I was buying it second hand.
If I was larger I still think I would rather put up with a bit of discomfort than spec the car wrongly and effect residuals IMHO
It's not the firmness that is the problem (they don't seem any firmer than the Gallardo carbon bucket seats which I find very comfortable), it's the angle of the seat back as it's just so upright. I'm not a midget athlete like you RL, however I'm also not super tall/big framed/overweight or of a high positive/negative ape index.

It's interesting to see however that based on the demographic here spec'ing the comfort seats would have a hit on residuals. Perhaps putting up with some discomfort is something you/I'd have to live with with the Performante.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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EpsomJames said:
It's not the firmness that is the problem (they don't seem any firmer than the Gallardo carbon bucket seats which I find very comfortable), it's the angle of the seat back as it's just so upright. I'm not a midget athlete like you RL, however I'm also not super tall/big framed/overweight or of a high positive/negative ape index.

It's interesting to see however that based on the demographic here spec'ing the comfort seats would have a hit on residuals. Perhaps putting up with some discomfort is something you/I'd have to live with with the Performante.
I like to sit fairly upright and close to the steering wheel as a rule so maybe the seats just work for me. I agree that they seem more upright than the Gallardo seats and its more an alert racing position than a relaxed laid back feeling. Just feel its an important part of that type of car and is part of the character.
Good to know I'm not going soft in my old age and still far too active for the pipe, slippers and "comfort" seats

ShakMan

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179 posts

282 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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EpsomJames said:
RamboLambo said:
I agree the bucket seats are very firm but I still find them comfortable and a good fit for my small but athletic frame. For short journeys and quick blasts they are perfectly acceptable but for a 3,000 mile cruise across Europe I think I would take the 650S Spider anyway.
Cant imagine the bucket seats would be great for a large, taller and bigger framed, to be polite, person but even so "comfort" seats whether it be in a Huracan Performante or Porsche GT3 would completely put me off the car off if I was buying it second hand.
If I was larger I still think I would rather put up with a bit of discomfort than spec the car wrongly and effect residuals IMHO
It's not the firmness that is the problem (they don't seem any firmer than the Gallardo carbon bucket seats which I find very comfortable), it's the angle of the seat back as it's just so upright. I'm not a midget athlete like you RL, however I'm also not super tall/big framed/overweight or of a high positive/negative ape index.

It's interesting to see however that based on the demographic here spec'ing the comfort seats would have a hit on residuals. Perhaps putting up with some discomfort is something you/I'd have to live with with the Performante.
The Performante is targeted as the hardcore, track focused model. Its the louder, stiffer, and less compromising car, so by definition has added discomfort. Also 40kg was shaved off a normal Hurucan. Therefore, it just seems incompatible to me to have comfort seats as it goes against the whole ethos of this model. However, I don't disagree that the sports seats are less comfortable but I find them more practical for how I am going to use the car.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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ShakMan said:
The Performante is targeted as the hardcore, track focused model. Its the louder, stiffer, and less compromising car, so by definition has added discomfort. Also 40kg was shaved off a normal Hurucan. Therefore, it just seems incompatible to me to have comfort seats as it goes against the whole ethos of this model. However, I don't disagree that the sports seats are less comfortable but I find them more practical for how I am going to use the car.
I think you mean the carbon bucket seats as opposed to the sports seats which are the comfort ones, well at least in UK

topjay

775 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Pretty much the entire weight loss in the performante is in the seats being carbon non electric.


EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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ShakMan said:
The Performante is targeted as the hardcore, track focused model. Its the louder, stiffer, and less compromising car, so by definition has added discomfort. Also 40kg was shaved off a normal Hurucan. Therefore, it just seems incompatible to me to have comfort seats as it goes against the whole ethos of this model. However, I don't disagree that the sports seats are less comfortable but I find them more practical for how I am going to use the car.
Strange then, would you not agree, that there is no factory harness option unlike the track focused Gallardo models.

RR50

73 posts

142 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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EpsomJames said:
Strange then, would you not agree, that there is no factory harness option unlike the track focused Gallardo models.
I think it is available as a dealer fit option.

KHK

482 posts

84 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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No couches for me. It's a track focused car so for this reason I've opted for the buckets.

Btw, what is the current wait list for the Perf in the UK?

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Don't shoot the messenger but a Lambo dealer told me only last week they as in Lamborghini not dealer already had more orders than they can build in the given production time frame. Might be dealer spin but that suggests 18 months IF you can even get one ???

They even have orders for the spyder version which I can only guess will be launched at Geneva next year with customer deliveries just in time for the winter no doubt

KHK

482 posts

84 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Don't shoot the messenger but a Lambo dealer told me only last week they as in Lamborghini not dealer already had more orders than they can build in the given production time frame. Might be dealer spin but that suggests 18 months IF you can even get one ???

They even have orders for the spyder version which I can only guess will be launched at Geneva next year with customer deliveries just in time for the winter no doubt
I'm currently residing in Canada and my dealer here in Vancouver said I should get my car by Sept so if what you posted is true and it might be, UK allocation might be good as gone. The demand around here isn't as crazy as it would be in the UK, also a lot of people with slots are switching them over for the Spyder.

I've also read and spoken to a few people who are very close to Lambo HQ and the rumor right now is the Perf will have a 2 year production run and the it be limited to around a 1000 cars, this includes coupes/spyders. The production number I read was 1 Perf for every 5 H's been built.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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KHK said:
I'm currently residing in Canada and my dealer here in Vancouver said I should get my car by Sept so if what you posted is true and it might be, UK allocation might be good as gone. The demand around here isn't as crazy as it would be in the UK, also a lot of people with slots are switching them over for the Spyder.

I've also read and spoken to a few people who are very close to Lambo HQ and the rumor right now is the Perf will have a 2 year production run and the it be limited to around a 1000 cars, this includes coupes/spyders. The production number I read was 1 Perf for every 5 H's been built.
Surprised the 4x4 lambo isn't more popular in your climate. The UK is usually strong on convertible sales but at the moment the preference seems to be coupe. maybe when spider is officially launched some will swap and demand pick up but I think the coupe will still sell more overall here.

Yeah I've heard 2 year production run but I'm not sure if that's from the Geneva March 2017 launch date or customer production cars from September 2017.
After that I presume there will be a facelift car like pre LP to LP Gallardo. I would love the next gen spider to have a tintop roof and the best of both worlds look. Will Huracan be the last N/A lambo ?????

KHK

482 posts

84 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Surprised the 4x4 lambo isn't more popular in your climate. The UK is usually strong on convertible sales but at the moment the preference seems to be coupe. maybe when spider is officially launched some will swap and demand pick up but I think the coupe will still sell more overall here.

Yeah I've heard 2 year production run but I'm not sure if that's from the Geneva March 2017 launch date or customer production cars from September 2017.
After that I presume there will be a facelift car like pre LP to LP Gallardo. I would love the next gen spider to have a tintop roof and the best of both worlds look. Will Huracan be the last N/A lambo ?????
I believe the spyder will be rarer than the coupe but I think most people will stick with the coupe just because a coupe makes more sense for a track focused car.

Autocar has an article today that the replacement H will have some sort of electric powertrain so safe to say the NA V10 will only be around for a few more years hence why I think the Perf will not lose value at all and will probably shoot up in value once the replacement is out.

Btw, here are my specs:


ShakMan

Original Poster:

179 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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KHK said:
I believe the spyder will be rarer than the coupe but I think most people will stick with the coupe just because a coupe makes more sense for a track focused car.

Autocar has an article today that the replacement H will have some sort of electric powertrain so safe to say the NA V10 will only be around for a few more years hence why I think the Perf will not lose value at all and will probably shoot up in value once the replacement is out.

Btw, here are my specs:

Similar thing happened with the Speciale ... they were readily available for order, it was only after production finished and everyone twigged that the replacement was going to be forced induction that prices went stratospheric. I can see that possibly happening here.

ShakMan

Original Poster:

179 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Romans International have just got hold of a green Performante for sale ... not on website yet but being prepped.