Performante - talk to me :)
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Deano84 said:
You can still order new from some dealers, they won’t be taking orders much longer and I am hoping the prices will firm up like they did with the Speciale when they stopped production.
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I don't see why prices should firm up. It will only be a couple of years from now that they bring out a Performante version of the facelift.]
The Speciale was the last of it's kind, so completely different. Also it's a Ferrari not a Lambo.....
Performantes will be on the market for £50k less than list in about 6 months in my view. There is just too much new supercar product being churned out all the time for values to hold up.
RR50 said:
Deano84 said:
You can still order new from some dealers, they won’t be taking orders much longer and I am hoping the prices will firm up like they did with the Speciale when they stopped production.
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I don't see why prices should firm up. It will only be a couple of years from now that they bring out a Performante version of the facelift.]
The Speciale was the last of it's kind, so completely different. Also it's a Ferrari not a Lambo.....
Performantes will be on the market for £50k less than list in about 6 months in my view. There is just too much new supercar product being churned out all the time for values to hold up.
sone said:
Considering 2014 standard Huracans are just past 50k off list hoping the Perf will drop to that level is at best optimistic. There are lots of cars that have been bought and sold by flippers and I think you’ll see these absorbed into the market before to long.
Not really. That's 50k off a lower starting number. Anyway, 2014 Huracan's et al will need to correct at the same time and maintain a reasonable spread to the Performante. Unless you think the facelift Huracan is going to have a material price increase (which they would struggle to do given the competition) why would people pay similar money for a used HP compared to a new facelift standard Huracan (which in effect will be a Performante without the ALA but with an upgraded interior, and electronics), The Performante is a great car but it's not going to be hugely more desirable than a facelift Huracan in the way a Speciale is to a 488. Especially given a couple of years down the line there will be a facelift Performante (cf Aventador SV and then SVJ).Edited by RR50 on Friday 5th October 21:34
KHK said:
Turbo cab said:
Rumour has it at least 100 more coupes are being pushed into the UK market (maybe to use the current chassis up before new model release next year) and dealer incentives will be possible.
Lol, it's not a new model it's a mid-cycle refresh. There's pictures of the refresh floating around, basically a new front/rear and interior upgrades. And allocation in the US for the coupe is non-existent so no idea why they would be dumping a 100 coupes into the the UK market. No idea where you heard such a ridiculous rumor. Edited by KHK on Thursday 4th October 18:57
The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
As others have mentioned you can still order a coupe from dealers further backing this up.
Turbo cab said:
I was informed first hand from supplying dealer when collecting my perf spyder a couple of weeks ago so no rumour buddy.
The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
As others have mentioned you can still order a coupe from dealers further backing this up.
There is no way Lamborghini is going to "push" a 100 HP coupes into the UK market. US dealers, which btw is the largest market for Lambo, are having a tough time getting new allocations for coupes so there is no reason Lambo will be giving UK dealers an additional 100 coupes. And sure you can order a couple if the dealer had an existing MY19 allocation which wasn't filled or a buyer backed out but Lambo isn't providing new allocations. The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
As others have mentioned you can still order a coupe from dealers further backing this up.
RR50 said:
Not really. That's 50k off a lower starting number. Anyway, 2014 Huracan's et al will need to correct at the same time and maintain a reasonable spread to the Performante. Unless you think the facelift Huracan is going to have a material price increase (which they would struggle to do given the competition) why would people pay similar money for a used HP compared to a new facelift standard Huracan (which in effect will be a Performante without the ALA but with an upgraded interior, and electronics), The Performante is a great car but it's not going to be hugely more desirable than a facelift Huracan in the way a Speciale is to a 488. Especially given a couple of years down the line there will be a facelift Performante (cf Aventador SV and then SVJ).
Doubt the HP will be dropping by that much because it was somewhat a limited run car whereas the refresh will be a run of the mill Huracan which will be produced for 2-3 years. They'll be tons around.Edited by RR50 on Friday 5th October 21:34
Prices hold when production ends and demand raises The HP is an incredible car and arguably one of the the best Lambo's produced so at some point once the production ends and the used market dries up the prices will stabilize and hold.
KHK said:
Turbo cab said:
I was informed first hand from supplying dealer when collecting my perf spyder a couple of weeks ago so no rumour buddy.
The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
As others have mentioned you can still order a coupe from dealers further backing this up.
There is no way Lamborghini is going to "push" a 100 HP coupes into the UK market. US dealers, which btw is the largest market for Lambo, are having a tough time getting new allocations for coupes so there is no reason Lambo will be giving UK dealers an additional 100 coupes. And sure you can order a couple if the dealer had an existing MY19 allocation which wasn't filled or a buyer backed out but Lambo isn't providing new allocations. The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
As others have mentioned you can still order a coupe from dealers further backing this up.
Turbo cab said:
I'm afraid your wrong, like in the other thread where you claimed a discount couldn't be had on a perf, I'd post up proof of that one if I actually cared enough however, I suppose it's how well you know and get on with your dealer. Having been friends with mine for the best part of 20 years before working at Lamborghini he really has no reason to lie to me.
Different markets, different deals to be had. And no offense but I can't take your source serious because it's the same person who claimed Lamborghini is getting rid of chassis because the replacement Huracan is coming out next year. Edit: Btw, lets just agree to disagree. Don't want this thread to turn into a back and fourth who's right and who's not.
Edited by KHK on Saturday 6th October 03:58
KHK said:
And no offense but I can't take your source serious because it's the same person who claimed Lamborghini is getting rid of chassis because the replacement Huracan is coming out next year.
FYIThe post before his last reply Turbo cab said:
The chassis part was my assumption and not fact.
Edited by Turbo cab on Saturday 6th October 14:25
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Main Dealer one up for £219k feels like good value.
Main Dealer one up for £219k feels like good value.
LordOfTheManor said:
Just thought i’d mention the £50k drop didn’t realise so many would become afraid and defensive.
If you have one just enjoy it.......then next year sell it to me at £185k PLEASE !!!
I'm deffinately not in the defensive camp but it does make me chuckle when people try to talk up values.If you have one just enjoy it.......then next year sell it to me at £185k PLEASE !!!
I've done just under 1k miles in my spyder since I picked it up two weeks ago.
I've probably already lost at least £20k in those two weeks if I wanted to move it on quickly but I purchased it to drive and not care about the depreciation.
If you haggle hard enough on a new coupe allocation you will get a sizable discount, this will only filter through to the second hand market that as far as I can see is pretty stagnant for both coupes and spyders.
Edited by Turbo cab on Saturday 6th October 14:26
Turbo cab said:
LordOfTheManor said:
Just thought i’d mention the £50k drop didn’t realise so many would become afraid and defensive.
If you have one just enjoy it.......then next year sell it to me at £185k PLEASE !!!
I'm deffinately not in the defensive camp but it does make me chuckle when people try to talk up values.If you have one just enjoy it.......then next year sell it to me at £185k PLEASE !!!
I've done just under 1k miles in my spyder since I picked it up two weeks ago.
I've probably already lost at least £20k in those two weeks if I wanted to move it on quickly but I purchased it to drive and not care about the depreciation.
If you haggle hard enough on a new coupe allocation you will get a sizable discount, this will only filter through to the second hand market that as far as I can see is pretty stagnant for both coupes and spyders.
Edited by Turbo cab on Saturday 6th October 14:26
BlackR8 said:
Main Dealer one up for £219k feels like good value.
Given that this one is already about £25k off list and the comments from others about sizeable discounts on new orders being available, £50k off list next year when the new one comes out is looking highly likely.The fact that some people expect cars in this bracket to increase in value, or at worst, hold their value is based on a brief period of atypical market behaviour. This will not last forever and will revert to normal where cars depreciate unless they are rare.
I hope that the Performante is as rare and desirable in the future as some here expect as I would love to be able to sell mine for what I paid for it in a few years time. Sadly, however, I don’t think that will be the case. In the meantime I will continue driving and enjoying it knowing it’s just another expensive toy that will cost me money. It’s not an investment.
Edited by RR50 on Saturday 6th October 17:52
Turbo cab said:
I'm deffinately not in the defensive camp but it does make me chuckle when people try to talk up values.
I've done just under 1k miles in my spyder since I picked it up two weeks ago.
I've probably already lost at least £20k in those two weeks if I wanted to move it on quickly but I purchased it to drive and not care about the depreciation.
If you haggle hard enough on a new coupe allocation you will get a sizable discount, this will only filter through to the second hand market that as far as I can see is pretty stagnant for both coupes and spyders.
You would do a great service to anyone looking for a new coupe slot by providing your dealers info in this post. I mean you're really pushing the fact new coupe allocations are dime a dozen and dealers are giving massive discounts to get rid of them. I've done just under 1k miles in my spyder since I picked it up two weeks ago.
I've probably already lost at least £20k in those two weeks if I wanted to move it on quickly but I purchased it to drive and not care about the depreciation.
If you haggle hard enough on a new coupe allocation you will get a sizable discount, this will only filter through to the second hand market that as far as I can see is pretty stagnant for both coupes and spyders.
Edited by Turbo cab on Saturday 6th October 14:26
KHK said:
You would do a great service to anyone looking for a new coupe slot by providing your dealers info in this post. I mean you're really pushing the fact new coupe allocations are dime a dozen and dealers are giving massive discounts to get rid of them.
Anyone genuinely interested can feel free to PM me 
.The correct words were "sizable" and given coupes are retailing for circa 30k under list, anyone with half a brain can see this makes complete sense. Something would need to be offered as there would have to be an incentive to take a new car over a slightly used, even in supercar territory taking a 50k hit if you wanted to trade it in after a day is a bit excessive and that's exactly where you'd be if you purchased a brand new one with a half decent spec.
Turbo cab said:
Anyone genuinely interested can feel free to PM me .
The correct words were "sizable" and given coupes are retailing for circa 30k under list, anyone with half a brain can see this makes complete sense. Something would need to be offered as there would have to be an incentive to take a new car over a slightly used, even in supercar territory taking a 50k hit if you wanted to trade it in after a day is a bit excessive and that's exactly where you'd be if you purchased a brand new one with a half decent spec.
UK dealers must be sitting on a stockpile of coupe allocations because new coupe and even spyder allocations for the US/Canada market are non-existent. I know Lamborghini has run into an issue with EPA certification because of some minor tweaks to the V10 for MY19 so with the delays and production ending soon for the refresh they might be shifting allocation to EU dealers..The correct words were "sizable" and given coupes are retailing for circa 30k under list, anyone with half a brain can see this makes complete sense. Something would need to be offered as there would have to be an incentive to take a new car over a slightly used, even in supercar territory taking a 50k hit if you wanted to trade it in after a day is a bit excessive and that's exactly where you'd be if you purchased a brand new one with a half decent spec.
I've noticed the exotic car market in the UK is in a massive slump atm, prices are all over the place so it's definitely a buyers market. It'll be very interesting to see what happens with SVJ prices because I know a handful of people who've decided to bail because of the high production number.
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