Gallardo... what's the catch?

[yorksram]

andrew said:

yorksram said:

I fitted Larini sports cats to my pre-lp superleggera, I still have the oem cats and they look ok in terms of condition but the extra performance, noise and peace of mind was worth the cost.

can i ask who fitted them and what the cost was ?

I fitted them, straight forward job but imagine you'd get charged 3hrs labour at dealer. Cost of cats are on Larini website, can't remember exactly but approx £1.5k. They are not the ceramic material that is used in oem cats which can break down with misfires/overfuelling..potentially being ingested.. heard the same stories as above, but wanted proven free flow cats that wouldn't trigger the CEL ( misfire sensors need to be mapped out when decatting fully).

Edit: sorry, should have read whole thread before replying, already answered.. worthwhile job to do in any case!

Edited by yorksram on Wednesday 25th December 20:43

[andrew]

yorksram said:

andrew said:

yorksram said:

I fitted Larini sports cats to my pre-lp superleggera, I still have the oem cats and they look ok in terms of condition but the extra performance, noise and peace of mind was worth the cost.

can i ask who fitted them and what the cost was ?

I fitted them, straight forward job but imagine you'd get charged 3hrs labour at dealer. Cost of cats are on Larini website, can't remember exactly but approx £1.5k. They are not the ceramic material that is used in oem cats which can break down with misfires/overfuelling..potentially being ingested.. heard the same stories as above, but wanted proven free flow cats that wouldn't trigger the CEL ( misfire sensors need to be mapped out when decatting fully).

Edit: sorry, should have read whole thread before replying, already answered.. worthwhile job to do in any case!

Edited by yorksram on Wednesday 25th December 20:43

noted
thank you too

[Superleg48]

I have front end lift on my LP. Only really used once getting on and off the ferry at Calais and Dover. Apart from that I just use the lift from time to time getting in and out the garage, it is not needed for that, but keeps the system working.

[4321go]

p4cks said:

4321go said:

...First hand stuff...

That's pretty much made my mind up about job number one on whichever Gallardo I go for, and of course find a friendly MOT centre.

For the avoidance of doubt, the cats’ issue only affects the pre-LP cars with the 5.0 litre engines. The later, LP-series cars, with their 5.2 litre engines don’t suffer from the same problem. Given that bypass pipes are about £1k, fitting Larini cats (and therefore negating any MoT pitfalls) sounds a bit of a bargain. But it does sound absolutely bloody awesome without.......

Merry Christmas to you all!

[p4cks]

Almost a year on and I thought I should update the thread.

Whilst ownership of a Lambo would be great, I just couldn't part with the Clio V6 that currently resides in the garage for 99% of the year.

It was a very informative thread and I appreciate the information that each of you have supplied - I hope you all enjoy your gorgeous, gorgeous Gallardos.

[Wozy68]

p4cks said:

Almost a year on and I thought I should update the thread.

Whilst ownership of a Lambo would be great, I just couldn't part with the Clio V6 that currently resides in the garage for 99% of the year.

It was a very informative thread and I appreciate the information that each of you have supplied - I hope you all enjoy your gorgeous, gorgeous Gallardos.

Thanks for the update ...... it brought the thread to the top of the pile and so I’ve just read all three pages.... I’m quietly looking at a Gallardo and it makes interesting reading.
What is it with Italian sports cars and crap designed manifolds and Cats ....

[ghost83]

Whilst not in the market yet I’m after a gallardo too

Another 36 month till my mortgage is paid off then I’m hoping to find a verde manual lp car

Rocking horse **** springs to mind

[Superleg48]

ghost83 said:

Whilst not in the market yet I’m after a gallardo too

Another 36 month till my mortgage is paid off then I’m hoping to find a verde manual lp car

Rocking horse **** springs to mind

Great cars. You will enjoy it. Manual LP in Verde Ithaca.....not a cat in hell’s chance. There are a very very few manual LP cars about...so consider a wrap in Verde Ithaca to get what you want. You may have to wait a bit for an LP manual to pop up for sale.

[Sarnie]

Superleg48 said:

Great cars. You will enjoy it. Manual LP in Verde Ithaca.....not a cat in hell’s chance. There are a very very few manual LP cars about...so consider a wrap in Verde Ithaca to get what you want. You may have to wait a bit for an LP manual to pop up for sale.

There was/is a black manual LP at the The Supercar Rooms when I was there recently........

[ghost83]

Superleg48 said:

Great cars. You will enjoy it. Manual LP in Verde Ithaca.....not a cat in hell’s chance. There are a very very few manual LP cars about...so consider a wrap in Verde Ithaca to get what you want. You may have to wait a bit for an LP manual to pop up for sale.

I’d consider an e gear and then convert to manual but definitely want an lp and Ithaca looking atm there’s only superleggeras which are 20-30k more expensive

[tomvcarter]

Sarnie said:

There was/is a black manual LP at the The Supercar Rooms when I was there recently........

Its still there but as its a LP550-2 is got quite a premium:

https://www.thesupercarrooms.co.uk/car-details/lam...

Im on the hunt for a manual as well, but realistically it will need to be a pre LP car.

[tomvcarter]

Is the E-Gear in the post LP cars more reliable than the pre LP cars?

I'm on the hunt for a pre-LP coupe with manual, but I would consider one of the cheaper LP cars with the E-Gear, if it's really that much more of a reliable package than a manual pre-LP car. A Manual LP car would be great, but I think it's going to be out of budget.

I think I prefer the look of the pre-LP car, it was the one I had on my wall. I really like the idea of it feeling more like a classic, so manual gate with cassette player is my perfect spec, just can't face killer bills.

[David_T]

Superleg48 said:

ghost83 said:

Whilst not in the market yet I’m after a gallardo too

Another 36 month till my mortgage is paid off then I’m hoping to find a verde manual lp car

Rocking horse **** springs to mind

Great cars. You will enjoy it. Manual LP in Verde Ithaca.....not a cat in hell’s chance. There are a very very few manual LP cars about...so consider a wrap in Verde Ithaca to get what you want. You may have to wait a bit for an LP manual to pop up for sale.

As per the above, if manual LP is your absolute priority then you'll have to be patient and then not have a lot of choice with the colour when one does come up. If manual is an absolute must there are more pre LP cars with manual transmission. No-one seems to have come up with how many manuals, whether pre LP or LP versions were produced, other than a low percentage of the total.

As per Sarnie's post the Supercar Rooms manual LP is still advertised: https://www.thesupercarrooms.co.uk/car-details/lam... This is actually a 550-2 (2 wheel drive.)

There was a (now sold) orange manual LP at VVS last year: https://www.vvsuk.co.uk/vehicle-details/Lamborghin... This was also 550-2. According to wikipedia these came equipped with 6 speed manual transmission with e-gear being offered as a cost option. So another question for you is, is a 2 wheel drive acceptable, or even a bonus for lighter weight and supposedly purer steering, or must it be 4 wheel drive.

There are 4 wheel drive manual LPs but perhaps these are rarer than the 550-2s, that's a guess rather than known fact, to be absolutely clear.

[ghost83]

I drove a manual gallardo a few years ago and thought it was absolutely sublime and I don’t particularly like the e gear paddles,

I’ve seen the supercar rooms car but I don’t like the black and orange, I saw a lovely black pre lp during lockdown and was juggling finances to try and acquire but he bumped the price from 80k to £120k and then sold it for an undisclosed amount!

I would take a e gear but I’d want to convert to manual, I am keeping my eyes open currently but I’m 12 month into a 48 month plan so got 36 months to run currently

[Superleg48]

Converting an eGear to manual is very possible, but will be a very costly job and with the added challenge of finding all the bits you need to do it..and an Indy that knows what they are doing. If manual really is your thing, you’d be better off getting into a late model Gen 1 car, where at least there are a few more about.

Avoid a very early Gen 1 car (2004) as the gear ratios are different and had an absurdly long 1st gear, which would make driving in traffic a bit of a PITA.

The eGear in later Gen 1 cars and in all Gen 2 cars is very much more sorted than the early eGear cars. If you understand it and then drive it correctly in the way the robotised manual box is supposed to be driven, it is an absolute blast, just as engaging but with the added benefit of making shifts far quicker than any human can achieve with a stick and a clutch pedal.

[ghost83]

After looking at 4321go engine rebuild it would have to be an LP for me plus I prefer the rear of the LP,

Has to manual and either just straight black or verde like I said absolute rocking horse ****

[Pioneer]

Superleg48 said:

Converting an eGear to manual is very possible, but will be a very costly job and with the added challenge of finding all the bits you need to do it..and an Indy that knows what they are doing. If manual really is your thing, you’d be better off getting into a late model Gen 1 car, where at least there are a few more about.

Avoid a very early Gen 1 car (2004) as the gear ratios are different and had an absurdly long 1st gear, which would make driving in traffic a bit of a PITA.

The eGear in later Gen 1 cars and in all Gen 2 cars is very much more sorted than the early eGear cars. If you understand it and then drive it correctly in the way the robotised manual box is supposed to be driven, it is an absolute blast, just as engaging but with the added benefit of making shifts far quicker than any human can achieve with a stick and a clutch pedal.

100% this. 2006 onwards if it's eGear

[jilap]

If you want a pre LP manual, I used to own this Spyder Manual . It is a genuine car with a good history.

[ghost83]

jilap said:

If you want a pre LP manual, I used to own this Spyder Manual . It is a genuine car with a good history.

Yes you emailed me during lockdown when I was looking around, it is a very nice car! For me currently paying my mortgage off is a priority, this year has really taught me a few things and not to take things for granted so hence why I’m holding off another 36 months

[wickhamaj]

David_T said:

As per the above, if manual LP is your absolute priority then you'll have to be patient and then not have a lot of choice with the colour when one does come up. If manual is an absolute must there are more pre LP cars with manual transmission. No-one seems to have come up with how many manuals, whether pre LP or LP versions were produced, other than a low percentage of the total.

As per Sarnie's post the Supercar Rooms manual LP is still advertised: https://www.thesupercarrooms.co.uk/car-details/lam... This is actually a 550-2 (2 wheel drive.)

There was a (now sold) orange manual LP at VVS last year: https://www.vvsuk.co.uk/vehicle-details/Lamborghin... This was also 550-2. According to wikipedia these came equipped with 6 speed manual transmission with e-gear being offered as a cost option. So another question for you is, is a 2 wheel drive acceptable, or even a bonus for lighter weight and supposedly purer steering, or must it be 4 wheel drive.

There are 4 wheel drive manual LPs but perhaps these are rarer than the 550-2s, that's a guess rather than known fact, to be absolutely clear.

The manual 550-2 is now mine and I thoroughly recommend! Was put off the other car for sale right now as it has a mix of bodywork from different models and would take a little returning to original spec. if you want a manual LP suggest you get in touch with James or Daniel at VVS, as they will likely see any that come up before you!