Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

[Fabspeed John]

tigertiger12 said:

ok, so that's not to purchase an actual ecu tune device as the picture shows?
product I'm talking about:
Lamborghini Huracan XperTune Performance Software
I thought this was the device pictured with software to tune an exhaust for a Huracan.
I know it is not an exhuast.

Can this upgrade the ECU from standard to sports exhaust?
Is this different than the factory upgrade?
If so what are the differences?

thanks John

Edited by tigertiger12 on Monday 15th February 18:34

Tiger,

The product you are referring to is in fact a handheld tuner, but it uploads our preloaded file into the car's ECU. The Handheld device interfaces with the OBD-II port on your vehicle and your computer to complete the tuning process. Simply flash your Huracan with a Fabspeed ECU Tune utilizing the included handheld tuner. Performance ECU software upgrade improves horsepower, torque, and driving characteristics by reprogramming various sensor inputs, air/fuel ratios, and boost pressure (if applicable).

If you're looking for a "sports exhaust" I would recommend going with our Sport Catalytic converters or a valvetronic exhaust if you want the ability to choose between 'loud' and 'silent'.

I would be happy to answer any more of your questions.

Cheers, John

[Superleg48]

tigertiger12 said:

After looking at this car numerous times now, I have just noticed that some of the pics are without the rear spoiler, This is obviously an after market wing and wondering if it is an original lambo wing or made by another company.
Here are some pic, I have edited only to remove the number plate. Car is on autotrader for £138k less a tenner.













Just wondering what your views are on this wing or what questions I should ask in addition to the ones below. Or anything else I have missed.

1. When was the wing installed.
2. Who installed the wing.
3. Is this an original lambo wing, if not who is the manufacturer.

This car does stand out, the seller has other cars but this is their most expensive by a long margin.

I clocked this one too and I was also puzzled by the pics with and without the wing. Perhaps some were before and after, but that suggests not all the pictures were taken at the same time? The wing is most definitely NOT an OEM Lambo wing and will be provided by an aftermarket supplier. No idea who. Personally I like the Huracan with a wing rather than without, it sort of finishes the back off better, which is why I like the Performante. However that wing is hideous, IMO. It reminds me of lip filler gone wrong...think Leslie Ash.

[tigertiger12]

Superleg48 said:

I clocked this one too and I was also puzzled by the pics with and without the wing. Perhaps some were before and after, but that suggests not all the pictures were taken at the same time? The wing is most definitely NOT an OEM Lambo wing and will be provided by an aftermarket supplier. No idea who. Personally I like the Huracan with a wing rather than without, it sort of finishes the back off better, which is why I like the Performante. However that wing is hideous, IMO. It reminds me of lip filler gone wrong...think Leslie Ash.

Indeed, some before and some after, making me think it could be the owners car as the pics are from the same location, however I did a quick check on the company and the owners name is not Doug or anything like Doug.
I too like the Huracan with a wing which is what attracted me to this car but now i'm not sure if it has the wing now or not, I could ask but not sure if i'm too interested as you said it's a Leslie (Tr) Ash job, strange angle. Something doesn't seem right.

[Fabspeed John]

tigertiger12 said:

Indeed, some before and some after, making me think it could be the owners car as the pics are from the same location, however I did a quick check on the company and the owners name is not Doug or anything like Doug.
I too like the Huracan with a wing which is what attracted me to this car but now i'm not sure if it has the wing now or not, I could ask but not sure if i'm too interested as you said it's a Leslie (Tr) Ash job, strange angle. Something doesn't seem right.

I doubt they removed the wing, they would have to replace the rear deck or the mounting holes from the wing would be there. I agree the listing seems somewhat fishy. I strongly advocate inspecting it in person before purchasing.

[Bispal]

OP seems to me after reading this thread that you are trying to do everything you can to convince yourself the McLaren is not the car for you based on the viewing of one car with some panel gaps and without a drive.

If you are set on the huracan then do it. I have driven quite a few of both the huracan and 570 and was lucky enough to drive them back to back.

You have to drive them to make your decsion. The McLaren is sufficiently cheaper to pay for extended warranties if thats what worries you.

If you want a reliable McLaren try a 650s. The P11 platform was several years old and perfected, IMO the 650 is a better car than the 570 and the real bargain.

I really wanted a perf and test drove one and bought a 675LT. Which in 12 months has not gone wrong. A very good mate of mine bought a perf at the same time and his has also been 100% reliable. We both enjoy our cars and use them a lot. Ask us both again what we would buy again now and we would buy the same because we are different people. If your heart is set on the Lambo then get it.

[SagMan]

If any help to the OP:
I had my shortlist of : 488 GTB, R8 Plus, 570S, Huracan LP610 or LP580, F12 and AMG GTR.
I've just committed to a Huracan LP580-2.

Driven the AWD previously but not the 580 RWD. I've taken RWB decision based on reviews, if has more feel, more turn in capability (softer suspension and tyre compound) then that has all my boxes ticked.

Why not the others? No reason at all, they are all stunning and would love the opportunity to buy any of them. Decision was based on the emotion of owning a Lamborghini, a Lamborghini that has been tuned for more driver enjoyment and, well, its a Lamborghini! Yes very shallow ! In terms of brands I'm more Ferrari biased, but I have been very privileged to own a 458 in prior years.

Oh and to cement my decision, I negotiated a deal including the full race exhaust. If I'm going to do this, then do it properly!. You really do only live once, get something that will make you smile, whether just looking at it, or driving it. Decision became easy after that thought.

Ill probably hate it and return to a Civic Type R with Remus exhaust, which by the way, are stunning little cars !!
Good luck with search.

[Shnozz]

tigertiger12 said:

After looking at this car numerous times now, I have just noticed that some of the pics are without the rear spoiler, This is obviously an after market wing and wondering if it is an original lambo wing or made by another company.
Here are some pic, I have edited only to remove the number plate. Car is on autotrader for £138k less a tenner.

Those tinted windows look way to dark to pass an MOT.

Shnozz said:

tigertiger12 said:

After looking at this car numerous times now, I have just noticed that some of the pics are without the rear spoiler, This is obviously an after market wing and wondering if it is an original lambo wing or made by another company.
Here are some pic, I have edited only to remove the number plate. Car is on autotrader for £138k less a tenner.

Those tinted windows look way to dark to pass an MOT.

Personally, I'd avoid any modified Huracan (and this certainly appears to be one of them) like the plague. But each to their own

[tigertiger12]

Bispal said:

OP seems to me after reading this thread that you are trying to do everything you can to convince yourself the McLaren is not the car for you based on the viewing of one car with some panel gaps and without a drive.

If you are set on the huracan then do it. I have driven quite a few of both the huracan and 570 and was lucky enough to drive them back to back.

You have to drive them to make your decsion. The McLaren is sufficiently cheaper to pay for extended warranties if thats what worries you.

If you want a reliable McLaren try a 650s. The P11 platform was several years old and perfected, IMO the 650 is a better car than the 570 and the real bargain.

I really wanted a perf and test drove one and bought a 675LT. Which in 12 months has not gone wrong. A very good mate of mine bought a perf at the same time and his has also been 100% reliable. We both enjoy our cars and use them a lot. Ask us both again what we would buy again now and we would buy the same because we are different people. If your heart is set on the Lambo then get it.

I do agree with you, I also prefer the 650s to the 570s, the point initially was to buy a 'cheap' super car, i know that's never really good. I'm not financing so the price is important and I could spend more but less at the moment and with a tesla on order is just better for me to spend less.
However, a few things put me off, the panel gaps, the dealers ignorance to this, reading about reliability, the difference in the attitude of mac owners here and huracan owners. The last one not a huge influence but I was bullied and berated badly on my other thread by quite a few people, there was also some jealousy and showing off which I have never had on this thread from lambo owners, or even ferrari owners. Actually when I called the Mac dealer, they wanted me to purchase the car without viewing, which would have meant I would have paid and then missed the panel gaps on excitement and then have to try to resolve after.

My wife is also an important part of the decision, we both love cars and F1 and go to races so she does have an interest and will be driving it more than me after covid. She also saw the issues and was put off and when i mentioned the lambo to her she was a lot more excited than when we decided to get a Mac. Given that it will take time to find the right one, I can have more funds available also.

So right now my heart is set on the lambo and I have always wanted one since being young, mclaren have only recently made road cars. A lot of people and owners swear by the huracan reliability. But indeed it is a fair bit more with a decent spec.

Thanks for your post, not that it helps! as my brain always says 'yes, but the lambo is more money'. However, with the help of people on this thread i've pretty much made my mind up. I've even looked at newer Mac models around £115k - £125k so 2018/19 cars. But you are right, the right car whether mac, lambo or ferrari could be 100% reliable.

For me I think the 4wd is important for winter use here, especially where I currently live, though we will be moving. It will be a daily driver. Reliability will be important also. The sound of the lambo much better and the wife wants pops and bangs. Either I spend much more and get some options or jump at the £115k white one with few options that has been available for a while and have the same problem reselling the car later or just drop the price somewhat. £115k I can jump at now. Some i'm looking at are around £128k - £140k with good options.

Even if I drive both makes I doubt it will make too much of a difference, we just dont drive fast or hard. I've driven the huracan and it's fine. It is important to drive both but also how much will we realise on a test drive, it's when you own a car and drive it regularly you really feel it. Even then I don't think I would not like the Huracan even if the mac was a better drive unless the difference was huge but haven't heard people complain about the drive of the huracan.

What differences have you noticed?

[Shnozz]

tigertiger12 said:

Thanks for your post, not that it helps! as my brain always says 'yes, but the lambo is more money'.

You have to look at the ownership cost, not the purchase cost.

[SagMan]

Shnozz said:

You have to look at the ownership cost, not the purchase cost.

This is totally the best view. I feel an F12 at £25k sale price more than Lambo would be less cost of ownership, but Lambo choice I made was for other reasons.

[tigertiger12]

SagMan said:

If any help to the OP:
I had my shortlist of : 488 GTB, R8 Plus, 570S, Huracan LP610 or LP580, F12 and AMG GTR.
I've just committed to a Huracan LP580-2.

Driven the AWD previously but not the 580 RWD. I've taken RWB decision based on reviews, if has more feel, more turn in capability (softer suspension and tyre compound) then that has all my boxes ticked.

Why not the others? No reason at all, they are all stunning and would love the opportunity to buy any of them. Decision was based on the emotion of owning a Lamborghini, a Lamborghini that has been tuned for more driver enjoyment and, well, its a Lamborghini! Yes very shallow ! In terms of brands I'm more Ferrari biased, but I have been very privileged to own a 458 in prior years.

Oh and to cement my decision, I negotiated a deal including the full race exhaust. If I'm going to do this, then do it properly!. You really do only live once, get something that will make you smile, whether just looking at it, or driving it. Decision became easy after that thought.

Ill probably hate it and return to a Civic Type R with Remus exhaust, which by the way, are stunning little cars !!
Good luck with search.

Thanks SagMan, was just coming to terms with not getting a car with a race exhaust and now you say this!!
But you are right, I'm looking at the 610-4, I really want something with a top speed over 200 even though i'm sure the 580 with a race exhaust would do that, for me the 4wd is important. Where I live 2 wd has been awkward.

I'm a little stuck thinking we wont drive it too much right now and more cars should become available when lockdown restrictions are lifted. So it's whether to jump now or wait a little as we could only be a couple of months off restrictions being relaxed. Maybe even prices dropping slightly.

I'm not as much a Ferrari person, I clearly don't have ferrari money, in terms of maintenance really. It worries me, but in 10 years I could be in a better position in which case I would definitely at least like to try one. The newer models much better, the 360 and 430 days are really basic with exposed welding are in the past but I feel out of my price range.

I have always been a Porsche person but have had a few and still have 2. So taking the next step I guess and in my heart I do prefer Lambo to Mac but they have more history in road cars.

Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated.

[tigertiger12]

said:

Personally, I'd avoid any modified Huracan (and this certainly appears to be one of them) like the plague. But each to their own

indeed, thanks for the advice on the tinted windows, I'm no longer interested in this car for a few reasons, but yes an after market spoiler wasn't what I was looking for or a car that has been modified.

[tigertiger12]

Shnozz said:

You have to look at the ownership cost, not the purchase cost.

indeed, however i'm hoping that spending more on a huracan will be less cost of ownership with more reliability but this always depends on the actual car and this will only come to light during ownership. The more I have read about macs the more I have read more horror stories but this is not always going to be 100% accurate. I could buy a mac and have no issues and have issue with the huracan i buy or the other way around!
The true cost of ownership comes after owning the car, until then is only speculation.

[Bispal]

tigertiger12 said:

Bispal said:

OP seems to me after reading this thread that you are trying to do everything you can to convince yourself the McLaren is not the car for you based on the viewing of one car with some panel gaps and without a drive.

If you are set on the huracan then do it. I have driven quite a few of both the huracan and 570 and was lucky enough to drive them back to back.

You have to drive them to make your decsion. The McLaren is sufficiently cheaper to pay for extended warranties if thats what worries you.

If you want a reliable McLaren try a 650s. The P11 platform was several years old and perfected, IMO the 650 is a better car than the 570 and the real bargain.

I really wanted a perf and test drove one and bought a 675LT. Which in 12 months has not gone wrong. A very good mate of mine bought a perf at the same time and his has also been 100% reliable. We both enjoy our cars and use them a lot. Ask us both again what we would buy again now and we would buy the same because we are different people. If your heart is set on the Lambo then get it.

I do agree with you, I also prefer the 650s to the 570s, the point initially was to buy a 'cheap' super car, i know that's never really good. I'm not financing so the price is important and I could spend more but less at the moment and with a tesla on order is just better for me to spend less.
However, a few things put me off, the panel gaps, the dealers ignorance to this, reading about reliability, the difference in the attitude of mac owners here and huracan owners. The last one not a huge influence but I was bullied and berated badly on my other thread by quite a few people, there was also some jealousy and showing off which I have never had on this thread from lambo owners, or even ferrari owners. Actually when I called the Mac dealer, they wanted me to purchase the car without viewing, which would have meant I would have paid and then missed the panel gaps on excitement and then have to try to resolve after.

My wife is also an important part of the decision, we both love cars and F1 and go to races so she does have an interest and will be driving it more than me after covid. She also saw the issues and was put off and when i mentioned the lambo to her she was a lot more excited than when we decided to get a Mac. Given that it will take time to find the right one, I can have more funds available also.

So right now my heart is set on the lambo and I have always wanted one since being young, mclaren have only recently made road cars. A lot of people and owners swear by the huracan reliability. But indeed it is a fair bit more with a decent spec.

Thanks for your post, not that it helps! as my brain always says 'yes, but the lambo is more money'. However, with the help of people on this thread i've pretty much made my mind up. I've even looked at newer Mac models around £115k - £125k so 2018/19 cars. But you are right, the right car whether mac, lambo or ferrari could be 100% reliable.

For me I think the 4wd is important for winter use here, especially where I currently live, though we will be moving. It will be a daily driver. Reliability will be important also. The sound of the lambo much better and the wife wants pops and bangs. Either I spend much more and get some options or jump at the £115k white one with few options that has been available for a while and have the same problem reselling the car later or just drop the price somewhat. £115k I can jump at now. Some i'm looking at are around £128k - £140k with good options.

Even if I drive both makes I doubt it will make too much of a difference, we just dont drive fast or hard. I've driven the huracan and it's fine. It is important to drive both but also how much will we realise on a test drive, it's when you own a car and drive it regularly you really feel it. Even then I don't think I would not like the Huracan even if the mac was a better drive unless the difference was huge but haven't heard people complain about the drive of the huracan.

What differences have you noticed?

I really liked the Huracan, if I'm honest, as a twice McLaren owner. I would probably have one over a 570 but I don't like the look of the 570 so that's the clincher for me (personal preference), although the way its drives is utterly amazing. The big shock for me is I much prefer the standard Huracan over the Perf, I have driven a couple and really liked them. If I was going for a Huracan I would hunt out the Avio special edition.

So the 570 is like a go-kart, laser sharp, precise and also comfy and really great on track. the Huracan is not quite as edgy but looks and sounds amazing. I would also have a Huracan over a 458. The McLaren's have a tiny amount of lag at lower speeds, which I am not a fan of, but I forgive them when they get going. The Lambos have better throttle response, gearbox wise I would say there is not a lot in it, very difficult to split but neither quite as good as a Porsche PDK.

The McLaren has better steering feel, it feels more of a drivers car in the dynamics dept. and more alert than the Huracan but as an ownership proposition the Huracan has many positives and is a more linear to drive so its horses for courses. For me it was a perf or a 675LT and I preferred the 675LT. If It had been a 570s or Huracan I think I might be swapping allegiances, A 650S would be another story though, I feel your pain....

[BigR]

Fabspeed John said:

tigertiger12 said:

Indeed, some before and some after, making me think it could be the owners car as the pics are from the same location, however I did a quick check on the company and the owners name is not Doug or anything like Doug.
I too like the Huracan with a wing which is what attracted me to this car but now i'm not sure if it has the wing now or not, I could ask but not sure if i'm too interested as you said it's a Leslie (Tr) Ash job, strange angle. Something doesn't seem right.

I doubt they removed the wing, they would have to replace the rear deck or the mounting holes from the wing would be there. I agree the listing seems somewhat fishy. I strongly advocate inspecting it in person before purchasing.

Depends on which wing it is. It is often the case - as I have on my 1016 wing - that it came with a replacement part, meaning that at installation they unbolted the original piece of bodywork from the Huracan and put in place the piece (which was carbon fibre) from 1016 to which the wing was attached. Then, I have the original piece still in the garage so should I - or any future owner - wish to switch them back, its a relatively easy job to do.

Btw - tend to agree, that wing looks a bit odd, a bit of a steep rake and a bit too much 'look at me' (because obviously a bright green Huracan would be very discreet without a wing).

[Shnozz]

My mate that previously had a standard Huracan before moving to a Perf added a mansory wing and that looked a bit more factory.

[tigertiger12]

BigR said:

Depends on which wing it is. It is often the case - as I have on my 1016 wing - that it came with a replacement part, meaning that at installation they unbolted the original piece of bodywork from the Huracan and put in place the piece (which was carbon fibre) from 1016 to which the wing was attached. Then, I have the original piece still in the garage so should I - or any future owner - wish to switch them back, its a relatively easy job to do.

Btw - tend to agree, that wing looks a bit odd, a bit of a steep rake and a bit too much 'look at me' (because obviously a bright green Huracan would be very discreet without a wing).

I've seen this too, it is possible the car has the wing on and they may offer to remove it. If I added a wing, i'd also think about the removal for when I sell it. So you could well be right also.
But it is a bit steep isn't it! It does make me laugh, like it was done by someone who just didn't give a s**t that day!

[tigertiger12]

Shnozz said:

My mate that previously had a standard Huracan before moving to a Perf added a mansory wing and that looked a bit more factory.

Good idea, I'd rather it came with a factory wing or I can decide to put one on myself, but I would rather stay away from a car without a factory wing and decide myself. I know a great company that looks after my cars and also does work for such manufacturers lambo, mac, rolls etc etc all the big names so they 100% know what they are doing. They are not cheap but you pay for their knowledge and experience of such vehicles which is what they work on everyday. So I can have them put a wing on if I like, but I can worry about this later. Need to find a car first! ha.
Mansory stuff is very good though.

[tigertiger12]

I was just looking at the Huracan Evo, It was a 2019 model.
The advert said balance of 4yr service and maintenance contract.
What is this? I understand this to be the 4 year warranty but wondering what was meant by service?
Do new huracans come with 4 yr service paid for? Am I just reading it wrong?