HELP NEEDED, With gen one Gallardo
Discussion
4321go said:
Just my tuppenny’s worth......
I too would be mighty suspicious of all of those blown fuses. I think I’ve replaced one fuse in 68,000 miles in mine.
The RAC (and also the AA, I think?) will only relay you if you are more than 0.25 miles from your home address. It sounds like in this case that wouldn’t be a problem. Mine’s been relayed by the RAC three or four times in my eight years of ownership. I tell the call handler what the car is and they nearly always agree that sending a patrolman will be a waste of time. So they send a flatbed straight out (always a contractor rather than the RAC’s own rig) and there’s never even a hint of drama getting the car loaded. And that’s without front end lift.
Don't think l can push it 1/4 of a mile, heavy bugger for a small car, I too would be mighty suspicious of all of those blown fuses. I think I’ve replaced one fuse in 68,000 miles in mine.
The RAC (and also the AA, I think?) will only relay you if you are more than 0.25 miles from your home address. It sounds like in this case that wouldn’t be a problem. Mine’s been relayed by the RAC three or four times in my eight years of ownership. I tell the call handler what the car is and they nearly always agree that sending a patrolman will be a waste of time. So they send a flatbed straight out (always a contractor rather than the RAC’s own rig) and there’s never even a hint of drama getting the car loaded. And that’s without front end lift.
Was tongue in cheek about the towing, doubt if i would get away with it with a stone cold engine anyway,
I,ve not got lift and never had problems when being towed either.
Interesting that they would send a truck and not bother with a patrolman.
Thanks,
xcentric said:
so, what news?
Nothing 
Had another go today but still not having any of it, Someone did suggest that although the ignition is coming on and the starter is turning maybe the immobiliser
has cut the fuel off, I've now fitted the new battery instead of linking it with jump leads and has maid no difference at all ,
Had the original battery tested and it's it's fine so that was a waste of time and money,
Could fit it back in the car but had to dismantle the front area to change it and not going through that again,
Did notice that although a new battery it still not spinning over as it should
so wondering if it's giving the full voltage for a cold start.
Have got a mechanic who looks after my classics coming to have a look but admits he is slightly out of his depth
with complex electrics more use to tractor mechanics of older cars so i'm not holding my breath.
Will have to get it transported to Emblem either next week or after Easter if all else fails.
4321go said:
Just had a thought....... This happened to me ages ago!
Failed crank position sensor. An easy and cheap fix!
Thanks for that info, Will mention it to my mechanic, Failed crank position sensor. An easy and cheap fix!
If it turned out to be that can you remember if it would require a trained technician to fit it or could
a general mechanic be capable of doing the job with no soft wear.
It's only it will be so much easier for my regular mechanic as he will come to me and save me transporting it anywhere.
Not a problem as Emblem have worked on the car before just a lot less flaffing about.
Thanks again.
interstellar said:
Is that Emblem in Poole, you local?
Yes well sort of, Cadnam,There is a high performance speciialist in my town called Regal Auto Sport, they race a 911 and heavily into tuning Vauxhalls,
My son has taken his Golf Turbo and R33 Skyline to them but that was about 2 years ago,
There was a Hurricane there having some work and they told me that they plan on being a service centre for them.
Will give them a call in the morning, Forgot all about them, Thanks for jogging my memory.
Sorry for the slow reply! It’s a Hall Effect sensor, mounted on the outside of the gearbox bell-housing, secured with just one screw, that counts the teeth on the flywheel as it rotates. When it fails, the starter will spin the engine but as the ECU doesn’t know the crank position, it knows neither when to inject fuel, nor when to ignite it. So it does neither.
Five minute job and no specialist equipment required (if that’s what it turns out to be).
Five minute job and no specialist equipment required (if that’s what it turns out to be).
Edited by 4321go on Friday 26th March 21:18
4321go said:
Sorry for the slow reply! It’s a Hall Effect sensor, mounted on the outside of the gearbox bell-housing, secured with just one screw, that counts the teeth on the flywheel as it rotates. When it fails, the starter will spin the engine but as the ECU doesn’t know the crank position, it knows neither when to inject fuel, nor when to ignite it. So it does neither.
Five minute job and no specialist equipment required (if that’s what it turns out to be).
Thank you very much 4321go, My mate who coming on Monday and we will investigate it ,trouble is we got no ramp whereFive minute job and no specialist equipment required (if that’s what it turns out to be).
Edited by 4321go on Friday 26th March 21:18
it's stored,may be able to jack it up but always a dodgy thing to do on these type of cars,
without a diagnostic how would you tell if it is that or would it still need to go to a specialist.
Also would you know if it can be fitted without taking the under panel off.
Sorry for so many questions but just trying to work out if we can do the job where the car is.
Thanks for your trouble ,
4321go said:
Sorry, but I can’t answer any of that. My Eleven, Mk1 focus and even some tasks on the aeroplane, I can spanner myself. The Gallardo I leave to others. Too complex and, as you alluded to, too heavy.
Good luck!
Think i'm going to stick to my classic stuff in future ,tractor mechanics ,a spanner in one pocket and a screwdriver in the otherGood luck!
you should be able to fix it. well at least to get you home,
I'll post my progress, good or bad.Thanks for the help.
70proof said:
The fuses going is still of concern to me
Get a obd Bluetooth dongle off eBay and read the fault codes
I always thought only a Lamborghini diagnostic would work, I don't have bluetooth would that make any difference.Get a obd Bluetooth dongle off eBay and read the fault codes
That would be great if that works ,at least i will have some idea of the problem, might but unlikely be able to fix it my end ,
Thank you.
Any OBD2 reader will give you a basic decode. You can buy them for about £20, either online or over the counter from most motor factors. The socket is above the drivers left shin, behind the dash, just to the left of the steering column.
The Gen 1 Gallardo is a pretty basic car, electronics-wise, and not an awful lot is actually monitored. For example, I’ve an intermittently dodgy lambda sensor. When it’s being bolshie I get a check engine light. Plugging into the OBD socket, my generic reader tells me that there is an over-voltage detected in an oxygen sensor on bank 1-5. But for a full diagnostic reading, you need a laptop with the correct software, plugged into a socket in the passenger footwell. That’s a specialist thing! Only with the Lambo laptop plugged in can I discover that it’s the post-cat sensor (there’s a pre-cat sensor too).
If there isn’t a fault light on the dash, then an OBD2 reader won’t be of much help. (From memory, when my crank position sensor failed, I don’t think that it illuminated any warning lights. The engine would crank quite happily; it just wouldn’t start!)
I too wonder why so many fuses have blown. A single blown fuse is uncommon. Multiple? Did you discover them before or after you started swapping batteries?
The Gen 1 Gallardo is a pretty basic car, electronics-wise, and not an awful lot is actually monitored. For example, I’ve an intermittently dodgy lambda sensor. When it’s being bolshie I get a check engine light. Plugging into the OBD socket, my generic reader tells me that there is an over-voltage detected in an oxygen sensor on bank 1-5. But for a full diagnostic reading, you need a laptop with the correct software, plugged into a socket in the passenger footwell. That’s a specialist thing! Only with the Lambo laptop plugged in can I discover that it’s the post-cat sensor (there’s a pre-cat sensor too).
If there isn’t a fault light on the dash, then an OBD2 reader won’t be of much help. (From memory, when my crank position sensor failed, I don’t think that it illuminated any warning lights. The engine would crank quite happily; it just wouldn’t start!)
I too wonder why so many fuses have blown. A single blown fuse is uncommon. Multiple? Did you discover them before or after you started swapping batteries?
4321go said:
Any OBD2 reader will give you a basic decode. You can buy them for about £20, either online or over the counter from most motor factors. The socket is above the drivers left shin, behind the dash, just to the left of the steering column.
The Gen 1 Gallardo is a pretty basic car, electronics-wise, and not an awful lot is actually monitored. For example, I’ve an intermittently dodgy lambda sensor. When it’s being bolshie I get a check engine light. Plugging into the OBD socket, my generic reader tells me that there is an over-voltage detected in an oxygen sensor on bank 1-5. But for a full diagnostic reading, you need a laptop with the correct software, plugged into a socket in the passenger footwell. That’s a specialist thing! Only with the Lambo laptop plugged in can I discover that it’s the post-cat sensor (there’s a pre-cat sensor too).
If there isn’t a fault light on the dash, then an OBD2 reader won’t be of much help. (From memory, when my crank position sensor failed, I don’t think that it illuminated any warning lights. The engine would crank quite happily; it just wouldn’t start!)
I too wonder why so many fuses have blown. A single blown fuse is uncommon. Multiple? Did you discover them before or after you started swapping batteries?
I discovered the blown fuses before swapping the batteries after firstly using a jump pack and then with brand new jump leads from the new The Gen 1 Gallardo is a pretty basic car, electronics-wise, and not an awful lot is actually monitored. For example, I’ve an intermittently dodgy lambda sensor. When it’s being bolshie I get a check engine light. Plugging into the OBD socket, my generic reader tells me that there is an over-voltage detected in an oxygen sensor on bank 1-5. But for a full diagnostic reading, you need a laptop with the correct software, plugged into a socket in the passenger footwell. That’s a specialist thing! Only with the Lambo laptop plugged in can I discover that it’s the post-cat sensor (there’s a pre-cat sensor too).
If there isn’t a fault light on the dash, then an OBD2 reader won’t be of much help. (From memory, when my crank position sensor failed, I don’t think that it illuminated any warning lights. The engine would crank quite happily; it just wouldn’t start!)
I too wonder why so many fuses have blown. A single blown fuse is uncommon. Multiple? Did you discover them before or after you started swapping batteries?
battery and finally jumped it off a another car.I have checked them again since fitting the new battery and they haven't blow
I took the car to a local car electrician some 4 years ago on a air bag light problem who specializes in Audi's and high performance
chips and he tried his R8 diagnostic and it let him in but blocked it when he got so far.
So what your saying is without the Lamborghini software i won't get a accurate reading.
Problem that i have being a old dinosaur i don't get it and this is all new to me, you can hardly call a 17 year old Gallardo state of the art but
i'm more use to older
cars whether they be super cars or bangers, Never had this problem with the Jalpa or Countach , if its got spark and petrol it
will go and if it doesn't it is a easy fix. well easier , In fact the guy who looks after them refuses to work on the Gallardo and won't even
work on Aventador's ,
Really appreciate everybody's help in this matter, Thanks guys.
Edited by rat rod on Sunday 28th March 19:56
4321go said:
Any update on this?
Lost interest in it, had a very good friend and mechanic coming to see what he could find but lost his dog the day before he was comingand don't like to pester him until he's ready as having no kids the dog was his life ,
Now got so many what it could be's i'm confused, would be easier if it needed a clutch and you just get on with it,
Could cost a fortune with trial and error method and can't work on it where it is, no ramp and to low to take anything off underneath.
Now's Easter is over i will have words with Emblem and the transport man ,
It's blocking my other cars in so good in a way, the money i've saved on petrol by not using them may pay the bill.
Edited by rat rod on Sunday 11th April 12:43
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Get this bought
Install incardoc app on your phone and read some codes
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Install incardoc app on your phone and read some codes
70proof said:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-V2-1-OBD-2-Car-A...
Get this bought
Install incardoc app on your phone and read some codes
Really, looks to cheap to work but will give it a go, only got one of those Nokia old fashion phones Get this bought
Install incardoc app on your phone and read some codes
with no internet or camera just a hello and goodbye buttons, but my son
has one of those smart phones so he should be able to work it.
Thanks for the tip,
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