Hello PHers and welcome to your new look forums!

Hello PHers and welcome to your new look forums!

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ClockworkCupcake

74,402 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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I agree that the speech bubble idea completely falls down on nested quoting. The eye is naturally drawn to associating the text inside the bubble as being a bounding box that encompasses what that person said.

The tail of the bubble is an unnecessary use of screen space too.



ClockworkCupcake

74,402 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Likewise. It's similar to what we've always had, but cleaner and more modern less ancient.

Testing'd be nice, sure - there's obviously some browser-compatibility wrinkles going on, as well as a few other little bits, but on the whole, it's really not that bad. It's a step forward without being a radical change.

It's almost certainly just one step towards the end position, with a solid base skin properly extracted from the underlying functionality - so that the skin can then have options or be tailored more easily.
Indeed. yes

I really hope the devs are coding this in such a way that actual skins (in the industry-wide accepted sense of the concept rather than what we had before) are trivial to add at a later date.

In the modern age, all a skin should be is a different CSS file.


TheOversteerLever

1,340 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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I don't hate the new skin colours etc but it's not the easiest to read.

Why don't you just invest in some new forum software, rather than continue to piss about with it?

ClockworkCupcake

74,402 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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TheOversteerLever said:
Why don't you just invest in some new forum software, rather than continue to piss about with it?
That's like saying "why don't you just move house rather than fixing that leaky roof?" or "why don't you just buy a new car rather than fixing the squeaky shock absorber?"

rampageturke

2,622 posts

161 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
TheOversteerLever said:
Why don't you just invest in some new forum software, rather than continue to piss about with it?
That's like saying "why don't you just move house rather than fixing that leaky roof?" or "why don't you just buy a new car rather than fixing the squeaky shock absorber?"
Not really. Sprucing up old forum software is like putting a lick of paint over a mouldy damp wall and calling it fixed. That said, I don't know how old this forum software actually is.

Old software can be an arse with old upotimised spaghetti code and restrictive features. New software can be very powerful, especially when adding new features, can perform better, and most importantly, be as secure as possible.

I much, much prefer this new look to the old one though.

ClockworkCupcake

74,402 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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rampageturke said:
I don't know how old this forum software actually is.
You see how at the bottom of the page it says "Copyright PistonHeads 1998-2017"? That's a fair indication. smile

I joined PH in August 2001 and it had already been running for a year or so. The code has grown organically in that time - ie. probably a bit of a mess.

As we've discussed several times already on this thread, a migration to a new off-the-shelf forum platform would not be a trivial task, and would also involve big up-front investment for only a long-term gain. Fixing what you have is always quicker and cheaper in the short term (but not the long term).

DuncB7

353 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Can't use mouse scroll wheel since new look forum has been rolled out confused

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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rampageturke said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
TheOversteerLever said:
Why don't you just invest in some new forum software, rather than continue to piss about with it?
That's like saying "why don't you just move house rather than fixing that leaky roof?" or "why don't you just buy a new car rather than fixing the squeaky shock absorber?"
Not really. Sprucing up old forum software is like putting a lick of paint over a mouldy damp wall and calling it fixed. That said, I don't know how old this forum software actually is.

Old software can be an arse with old upotimised spaghetti code and restrictive features. New software can be very powerful, especially when adding new features, can perform better, and most importantly, be as secure as possible.

I much, much prefer this new look to the old one though.
Are you viewing it from a Desk top or a Mobile device? Because on a Desk top its really st!

rscott

14,690 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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DuncB7 said:
Can't use mouse scroll wheel since new look forum has been rolled out confused
Which browser? working fine on Chrome here.

TonyRPH

12,963 posts

167 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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To those whining about the bold topics..

This is standard practice in most forum software I've ever used - it serves to highlight unread threads, and likewise if there are any new contributions to an already browsed thread.

For example - this screenshot is from vBulletin - very popular board software.

Excuse me if I have missed the point.


saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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TonyRPH said:
To those whining about the bold topics..

This is standard practice in most forum software I've ever used - it serves to highlight unread threads, and likewise if there are any new contributions to an already browsed thread.

For example - this screenshot is from vBulletin - very popular board software.

Excuse me if I have missed the point.

Maybe it is common for that type of forum but to me the text looks too stolid and too much white space
PH used to be better than that wink
however PH does seem to be working now and doesnt have the crazy screen redrawing


AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Browsing on mobile (Android / Opera) the visuals are ok, but the last visit fkup is REALLY ANNOYING!
I am continually scrolling up to find the last post I read - sometimes it's several pages prior to where the link takes you.

shout Will the devs confirm that they even admit this is a problem?

I think one reason people get angry is the almost total lack of feedback - I'm afraid that I will keep boring people by reporting this REALLY ANNOYING bug every day or so until the code monkeys at least admit they know about it.

Wh00sher

1,587 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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rscott said:
It's called change - some don't seem to cope well with it....
I don`t care one way or the other if they change something. I`ll just get used to it. smile

My issue with this font / colour scheme is it makes my eyes ache after several minutes ! Seriously, I have to close the window as I can feel my eyes starting to hurt. I`m not moaning for the sake of it, I`m moaning because I can`t read it ! frown

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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We're up to 54 pages of mutterings now, and I ain't going to wade through all that, so can somebdoy explain the colours to me please?

Blue
Blue bold
Purple
Purple bold

I assume it's all about read/ unread, but there are too many colours for the variables.


xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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yellowjack said:
thebraketester said:
xjay1337 said:
thebraketester said:
xjay1337 said:
I can live with the look but the quotes do need sorting.
They are broken currently (were not before).
The "bubble" format is hard to read.
Say what?
Who said what?
Said what?
What? What's on second base. Who's on first...

getmecoat
He is me, and I am you.

Adenauer

18,564 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Wh00sher said:
I don`t care one way or the other if they change something. I`ll just get used to it. smile

My issue with this font / colour scheme is it makes my eyes ache after several minutes ! Seriously, I have to close the window as I can feel my eyes starting to hurt. I`m not moaning for the sake of it, I`m moaning because I can`t read it ! frown
I'm in 100% agreement with Wh00sher.

Edited by Adenauer on Wednesday 26th April 12:24

ClockworkCupcake

74,402 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Doofus said:
We're up to 54 pages of mutterings now, and I ain't going to wade through all that, so can somebdoy explain the colours to me please?
You could, however, just read back a page or so though, surely?

Edit: Posted this morning only a few hours ago:

miniman said:
Blue and purple are the standard colours for visited and unvisited pages. Purple indicates you've previously visited that page. Bold indicates there's a new post in that thread since your last visit. Bold purple indicates that there's a new post in a thread that you have visited.
Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Wednesday 26th April 12:23

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Anyone else experiencing text loading, then disappearing, then loading? Firefox browser FWIW.

Speed 3

4,486 posts

118 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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tobinen said:
Anyone else experiencing text loading, then disappearing, then loading? Firefox browser FWIW.
Nope, fine on Safari / Mac. I gave up on Firefox a while back, used to be good but has lost ground significantly to Safari/Chrome.

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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miniman said:
Blue and purple are the standard colours for visited and unvisited pages. Purple indicates you've previously visited that page. Bold indicates there's a new post in that thread since your last visit. Bold purple indicates that there's a new post in a thread that you have visited.
So what's the significance of no purple bit is a thread on "My Stuff"?

If it's in My Stuff, I've posted in the thread. So if nothing else, the page on which I posged should be purple, possibly bold purple, but not all blue, surely?