NHS spending

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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sleep

steviegunn

1,416 posts

184 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Inflation calculator from the Bank of England:



Population has also increased from 55.66m in 1970 to 65.51m in 2017, then there's changes in demographic profile (more old people), either way either it's all lies, damn lies and statistics.

WatchfulEye

500 posts

128 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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The £500 is in 2017 monetary value.

loafer123

15,426 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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WatchfulEye said:
The £500 is in 2017 monetary value.
I think you are probably right, but do you have a source?

WatchfulEye

500 posts

128 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Puggit

48,425 posts

248 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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How can this be true? My facebook is full of lefties screaming about NHS cuts...

V8covin

7,283 posts

193 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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and it costs the UK government around £5,000 per year per person to ensure pensioners living in the EU can get medical treatment at no cost to themselves.
Doesn't sound like a very good deal to me.


Lozw86

872 posts

132 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Hope I actually use / need it some day and get my money's worth

Bitter pill to swallow for 1 doctors appointment in the last 6 years

Anything serious and I think I'd go with BUPA anyway

Sheepshanks

32,715 posts

119 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Lozw86 said:
Hope I actually use / need it some day and get my money's worth
That's an odd thing to hope for. Are you also hoping your house burns down and you crash your car?


My private medical and dental insurance is £2500/yr now and that's getting irritating.

esxste

3,674 posts

106 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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The NHS is one of the most efficient health services in the world.

It provides more services than it did in 1970.

It deals with more complicated health problems than in 1970.

It deals with more elderly people than it did in 1970.

The costs of equipment, drugs and staff salaries are more than in 1970.




Puggit

48,425 posts

248 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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I've found a quick saving, right here:


loafer123

15,426 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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esxste said:
The NHS is one of the most efficient health services in the world.

It provides more services than it did in 1970.

It deals with more complicated health problems than in 1970.

It deals with more elderly people than it did in 1970.

The costs of equipment, drugs and staff salaries are more than in 1970.
Don't get me wrong, I think the NHS is generally pretty good, but a 4x real terms increase is substantial in anyones language.


Tycho

11,573 posts

273 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
Lozw86 said:
Hope I actually use / need it some day and get my money's worth
That's an odd thing to hope for. Are you also hoping your house burns down and you crash your car?


My private medical and dental insurance is £2500/yr now and that's getting irritating.
Just imagine how much private healthcare would cost under loony labour!

TEKNOPUG

18,925 posts

205 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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We get a 2nd world health service for the price of 4th world one. It's great value for money.

meehaja

607 posts

108 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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One of the things with nhs cuts, is they're not cuts (as mp's constantly tell us!), more that there is no increase in funding to meet increased targets and needs. For example, when fuel went very expensive, there was no increase in funding for ambulance services to cover this cost. Likewise the expectation to have more staff and treat more patients is rarely reflected in higher spending to meet these needs.

Some situations may vary, but certainly in the nhs trust I work within, it is not so much costs as failure to increase in line with costs.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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V8covin said:
and it costs the UK government around £5,000 per year per person to ensure pensioners living in the EU can get medical treatment at no cost to themselves.
Doesn't sound like a very good deal to me.
Here's a thought for you: Perhaps pensioners cost the NHS more than the average person?

Anyway - why has the NHS expenditure gone up? Umm, is it because medical science and technology is MUCH more complicated and expensive in 2017 than it was in 1970?

motco

15,940 posts

246 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Lozw86 said:
Hope I actually use / need it some day and get my money's worth

Bitter pill to swallow for 1 doctors appointment in the last 6 years

Anything serious and I think I'd go with BUPA anyway
Don't worry, apparently 85% of the money spent on your health by NHS takes place in the final 18 months of your life.

Randy Winkman

16,090 posts

189 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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esxste said:
It deals with more elderly people than it did in 1970.
Exactly. Costs of looking after elderly people are going to continue to rise substantially for decades. People better get used to it.

Soylent green anyone?

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tristancliffe

357 posts

213 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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In the 1970s they had machines that go Ping. Now they have MRI scanners (which probably also go Ping as well), and they are a lot more expensive.
Plus more people litigate.