Lousy Forum structure

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Kondeeler

Original Poster:

51 posts

47 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
Not a great deal about people's preferences

Dan_1981

17,387 posts

199 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Why not tell us which bit you don't like so we can agree or disagree?

For what it's worth on a desktop I think it's very very easy to negotiate.

On a mobile somethings can get lost - for example I may want to be in a dedicated forum, but clicking up often takes me to the larger list - ie: watches - click up - takes me to the full pie & piston which is not where I want to go. But that's a minor thing easily avoided.


FunkyNige

8,882 posts

275 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
I don't know, but assuming you are someone who has a background in software design and teaching could you give us some pointers about what's wrong with PH as it is?
The replies have come from people who have been here 64 months (5 years) + so are used to it, and are presumably fans of how simple it looks.

Crafty_

13,283 posts

200 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
Genuinely interested to know what you don't like and how you find it difficult.. I mean, its a flat list divided in to sections, I can't quite grasp how it could be simpler.

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
What indeed..

Mandat

3,884 posts

238 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
Unless you're trolling, please do finally tell us what it is you think is maze like and non-intuitive.

All of the responses that you've received don't seem to have found the problems that you complain of.

Fore Left

1,418 posts

182 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Kondeeler said:
We are just going to have to agree to differ.
After all what would someone who has a background in software design and teaching possibly know?
Clearly fk all about user interface design and user journeys biggrin There's a few bits that could be fixed but I've seen a lot worse type

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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citizensm1th said:
Johnnytheboy said:
citizensm1th said:
Johnnytheboy said:
How about like Facebook, where it puts the same threads at the top visit after visit, because its algorithm has decided they are what you want to read most?
FRO, just use what's new and mystuff. Then navigate to particular forums as needed.

Make your own choice what to interact with not some algorithm coded by some chimp interested in the latest macrame pattern
Sorry I should have made my sarcasm more obvious, I hate the FB system!
Yeah fair play reading it back I see that now
Inadequate smilie use on my part. smilesmilesmile

Riley Blue

20,951 posts

226 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Johnnytheboy said:
Riley Blue said:
Kondeeler said:
Does anyone else find navigating PistonHeads, Non-intuitive, maze-like structure a real PITA?
How would you structure it?
How about like Facebook, where it puts the same threads at the top visit after visit, because its algorithm has decided they are what you want to read most?


No thank you, I'd have to wade through too much FB generated rubbish to find anything interesting.

Kondeeler

Original Poster:

51 posts

47 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Thanks. I’m not the only one then.

Dave.

7,359 posts

253 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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That's 2 of 613479.... Good going that, best get the whole site rewritten.... hehe

tongue out

FunkyNige

8,882 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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anonymous said:
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Yeah, the names made sense when they were created but I can see why someone looking at them now would just see a hodge-podge of weird names.
Here's what it looked like in 2001


https://web.archive.org/web/20010815051417/http://...

But when one of the subforums got too busy it would be split off and given a name that made sense back then, but now it's just a name without an explanation.
For example when people started talking about non-car stuff on PH the Pie and Piston subforum was created for all non-car topics (for a while non-car topics were locked but the mods gave in in the end), when too many people started talking about politics in there NP&E was spawned and Pie and Piston became the overarching name for all the non-car forums and The Lounge was the general non-car chat forum.

I feel old.

Last Visit

2,805 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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Off topic but just dipping into that Petrol Crisis sub forum reminded me just how cheap fuel used to be.

MissChief

7,102 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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The usual story of people stuck in the dark ages, much like the forum itself. It’s ancient. We shouldn’t be taken to a completely new page to respond or edit a post. We should be able to search properly for something more recent than a decade old. We should be able to send messages to each other within the forum software. We should be able to tag users and see when our posts are quoted or when we’ve been tagged. All standard forum software stuff from this decade.

While I agree the clean colours and aesthetics are something that should be kept, and certainly can be, the forum itself is mired in 2010, not 2020. Anyone who says otherwise is clinging on to it for dear life when it needs out down.

Doofus

25,801 posts

173 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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I've been looking for a thread just like this since Sunday morning, and I've only just found it now - Thursday!

I'm glad to have finally found it, but now I don't know how to get home again. frown

Dan_1981

17,387 posts

199 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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A new forum?!

You people do remember the st storm when the lounge was created?!

h0b0

7,587 posts

196 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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do we not all remember the 4 skins disaster of 2017?


135 pages because we changed the appearance. I remember it being important at the time but the screenshots below are not reminding me why.


PH Classic



Thread View




Big Blue



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GTI



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Ben Lowden

6,021 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

PH TEAM

Sunday 11th October 2020
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anonymous said:
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You're confusing CarGurus (new owner) with Haymarket (previous owner). Haymarket did essentially pull all engineering resource off PH and there was probably at least a year where we had next to no support at all.

CarGurus are investing heavily in PistonHeads and we probably have the biggest engineering team we've ever had. Naturally as the classifieds is our core source of revenue, that's still getting the majority of engineering resource but the forums now have more resource than they've probably had in at least five years, if not more.

MissChief

7,102 posts

168 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Ben Lowden said:
anonymous said:
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You're confusing CarGurus (new owner) with Haymarket (previous owner). Haymarket did essentially pull all engineering resource off PH and there was probably at least a year where we had next to no support at all.

CarGurus are investing heavily in PistonHeads and we probably have the biggest engineering team we've ever had. Naturally as the classifieds is our core source of revenue, that's still getting the majority of engineering resource but the forums now have more resource than they've probably had in at least five years, if not more.
So is a forum upgrade on the agenda?