Change to News, Politics & Economics posting rights

Change to News, Politics & Economics posting rights

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Ben Lowden

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6,033 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

PH TEAM

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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As of this afternoon, we are changing the criteria required to post in our News, Politics & Economics forum.

As PistonHeads is first and foremost a motoring community, we will only let engaged car enthusiasts in our community post in NP&E.

Too often we see people sign up to PH solely to post in NP&E and cause trouble – that's not what our forum is for and those people will be much better placed joining other websites who's business focus on news and politics.

As we only want our motoring community posting in non-motoring forums who have a good understanding of our rules and how to abide by them – members will now need to have been a member of PH for one year and posted 1,000 times in our motoring forums in order to post in NP&E. This will be applied retrospectively to existing members too.

Until then, members will be welcome to read the content in NP&E and engage with other likeminded car enthusiasts in our motoring forums.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Might be worth cross posting in NP&E and making it a sticky for those people who wouldn't normally look in WF

I totally get why it's here though biggrin

S17Thumper

4,355 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Incoming flurry of ‘why can’t I post’ posts hehe

Sensible criteria though thumbup

Mammasaid

3,834 posts

97 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Checks post count to see how much of a sad git I've been over the last xxx months...

105.4

4,082 posts

71 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Good !

When NP&E first started, (or way before that even for similar topics in the Pie & Piston), it would be a really good resource for information.

Now, almost irrespective of the topic, it’s utterly toxic and depressing to try and read.

Ben Lowden

Original Poster:

6,033 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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B'stard Child said:
Might be worth cross posting in NP&E and making it a sticky for those people who wouldn't normally look in WF

I totally get why it's here though biggrin
Thanks BC, I've updated the sticky at the top of NP&E to reflect thumbup

105.4 said:
Good !

When NP&E first started, (or way before that even for similar topics in the Pie & Piston), it would be a really good resource for information.

Now, almost irrespective of the topic, it’s utterly toxic and depressing to try and read.
Hopefully this change will help get it back on track.

lizardbrain

1,993 posts

37 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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It's a bit of a shame. I enjoy reading the car threads whilst I'm visiting, but the main driver to visit is NPE to honest. I mostly post specifically about cars on Tesla motors club (or whatever car specific forum, for what I happen to be driving).

I'm quite unlikely to ever reach a 1000 posts in the motor sections, as quite frankly, the EV section is mostly troll posts and there is rarely any depth to the threads.

Oh well. Nice whilst it lasted. I understand the decision.

Good luck with all your future endeavours!

MesoForm

8,883 posts

275 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Ben Lowden said:
members will now need to have been a member of PH for one year and posted 1,000 times in our motoring forums in order to post in NP&E.
Quick question - by 'motoring forums' do you mean everything outside the Pie&Piston group of subforums (ie. Science, Sports, etc.) or just outside NP&E?
I agree with the decision by the way, there are plenty of alternatives out there now.

sherman

13,231 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Happy with the new rules as Im still allowed to post.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Ben Lowden said:
B'stard Child said:
Might be worth cross posting in NP&E and making it a sticky for those people who wouldn't normally look in WF

I totally get why it's here though biggrin
Thanks BC, I've updated the sticky at the top of NP&E to reflect thumbup
NP - Ahh in the NP&E rules - Much better - I was going to post it in another "relevant topic" but figured you'd see it here as quickly

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Seems OK to me. There are some deeply unpleasant people in NP&E, hopefully this will get rid of some of them.

robscot

2,218 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Great move - just sad it didn't come in early in the pandemic.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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lizardbrain said:
It's a bit of a shame. I enjoy reading the car threads whilst I'm visiting, but the main driver to visit is NPE to honest. I mostly post specifically about cars on Tesla motors club (or whatever car specific forum, for what I happen to be driving).

I'm quite unlikely to ever reach a 1000 posts in the motor sections, as quite frankly, the EV section is mostly troll posts and there is rarely any depth to the threads.

Oh well. Nice whilst it lasted. I understand the decision.

Good luck with all your future endeavours!
Very same opinion here.

pquinn

7,167 posts

46 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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The only problem with setting post count triggers for access rights is the volume of spam posting people end up doing just to hit the counter - lots of trivial comments on any passing thread. It's no better an idea for driving quality content now than it was 20 years ago.

Everyone works out that it's a really bad idea in the end whatever the board or forum it's tried on.

Setting a higher time bar on the other hand at least deters all but the most persistent - who'd be the ones busy putting all the spam posts in anyway. So why not save the effort and just have the 12 month barrier?


PS. What exact defines 'motoring forums'? The whole place or just certain bits?

Roderick Spode

3,088 posts

49 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Interesting to correlate those who mostly post on NP&E and those who cause trouble, which I would suggest is not the case. A few bad apples do not necessarily spoil everyone. I rarely post anywhere else on PH, so I for one will be unable to post further on NP&E unless I make an arbitrary 1,000 posts elsewhere on the forums. A good way to kill the posting volumes in NP&E I suppose. Seems a strange ruling - the mods already have the ability to ban troublesome posters from individual topics, and furthermore to implement a full ban from NP&E if required, so other than disengaging active posters from a section of the forum, I'm not sure what this achieves...

When is it to be implemented?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Roderick Spode said:
When is it to be implemented?
It's been done already.

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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lizardbrain said:
- Sometimes people mention they have received 7 day bans from NPE. Why are such posters not banned permanently from NPE?
People are banned permanently from PH. The worst offenders then just create a new account and carry right on. It's these persistent st-posters that this is aimed at.

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Interesting. There are some who post over 1000 times in the np&e thread per week...

Levin

2,025 posts

124 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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williamp said:
Interesting. There are some who post over 1000 times in the np&e thread per week...
Are there?! My contributions to NP&E are minimal at best, but surely it would be a contender for PH's largest forum? This could represent a massive change.

B'stard Child

28,395 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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B'stard Child said:
NP - Ahh in the NP&E rules - Much better - I was going to post it in another "relevant topic" but figured you'd see it here as quickly
Ahh small downside - that edited post still shows as posted Ages ago so nothing to indicate the rules have changed at a glance - only when you open it

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