Heads up on my old Murci

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Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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I don't understand the pricing, isn't this the norm?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Yipper

5,964 posts

89 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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Giving quarter of a million quid to a backstreet garage in Bolton. Sounds good. Where do I wire the monies.

TP321

1,475 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Are dealers like this just chancing their luck in hope of some mug paying close to asking price or is there some bigger scam going on here? It's almost as if they don't wan't to sell the car.
I think there must be something else going on with these back street dealers and overpriced high end cars...

coco79

390 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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TP321 said:
I think there must be something else going on with these back street dealers and overpriced high end cars...
Washing..money..laundry..

R8Steve

4,150 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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coco79 said:
TP321 said:
I think there must be something else going on with these back street dealers and overpriced high end cars...
Washing..money..laundry..
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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coco79 said:
Washing..money..laundry..
this, and it ties in with supercar rentals too

bolton tingz innit

coco79

390 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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R8Steve said:
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.
There must be a car wash operating around the back too smile

rich12

3,461 posts

153 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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R8Steve said:
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.
How would one 'introduce' the other funds?

R8Steve

4,150 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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rich12 said:
R8Steve said:
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.
How would one 'introduce' the other funds?
Cash. They would be registered as a high value dealer with the HMRC due to the value of stock so would be allowed to accept or make high value cash payments.

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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rich12 said:
How would one 'introduce' the other funds?
have an illegal business eg drugs
have a legit business eg high end cars
get "3rd party" to buy cars at inflated prices with your dirty money
dirty money turned into legitimate profit
you have to pay taxes, and report high value cash transactions but might get away with it

(not saying this is occurring at all in the above situation, maybe they just have really good salesmen)

rich12

3,461 posts

153 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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I get that but putting an extra £100k+ in cash through a bank is going to raise a lot of alarms. Regardless of what you sell.

Caddyshack

10,605 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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rich12 said:
I get that but putting an extra £100k+ in cash through a bank is going to raise a lot of alarms. Regardless of what you sell.
But the layering part would then be buying another high end car with the "legit" cash from the customer and selling that for financed money...all clean and reportable.

Not saying they are but that is probably the sort of thing that happens.

jdwcd

2,517 posts

201 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Was one of the owners from devon R togg ? he had a white one.

magnum555

473 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Do you get some self gratification spouting rubbish on the internet and trying to damage someones business without a shred of evidence?

Nothing but speculation and hearsay by the usual suspects.

GarethRR

130 posts

123 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Looks v nice but when I last looked my manual one had a bloody big stick with chrome knob on it in between the seats!

tleefox

1,110 posts

147 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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magnum555 said:
Do you get some self gratification spouting rubbish on the internet and trying to damage someones business without a shred of evidence?

Nothing but speculation and hearsay by the usual suspects.
If it looks like st, smells like st and tastes like st, chances are it probably is st.

845ste

577 posts

126 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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yes yes.... but I have seen ( events ,ads, etc.) that in Euro the classic cars have doubled or even tripled the prices.
in particular porsche 911.
the diablo have disproportionately high prices, for example. (i see 200/250.000euros)
I can understand a countach or a miura but a diablo no: then the murcy (150/200e) today is donated to today's prices.smile

Ferruccio

1,832 posts

118 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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845ste said:
yes yes.... but I have seen ( events ,ads, etc.) that in Euro the classic cars have doubled or even tripled the prices.
in particular porsche 911.
the diablo have disproportionately high prices, for example. (i see 200/250.000euros)
I can understand a countach or a miura but a diablo no: then the murcy (150/200e) today is donated to today's prices.smile
Not sure I agree regarding the Diablo - an early Diablo is the last of the real old style Lambos, no power steering, no ABS, no traction control, pop up headlights........raw and a very good looking car.

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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R8Steve said:
coco79 said:
TP321 said:
I think there must be something else going on with these back street dealers and overpriced high end cars...
Washing..money..laundry..
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.
But you can't just throw 130k into the bank and say 'no idea of its origin'. It's not a great long term model

andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Burwood said:
R8Steve said:
coco79 said:
TP321 said:
I think there must be something else going on with these back street dealers and overpriced high end cars...
Washing..money..laundry..
Car bought for 130k, advertised for 270k, actually sold for 140k, 130k of 'other' funds introduced to make the 'official' sale on the books £270k

Not saying that is what is happening here of course, but it's a possibility if you were that way inclined.
But you can't just throw 130k into the bank and say 'no idea of its origin'. It's not a great long term model
is that not the layering part?