Murcielago purchase

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Patrick-Peter

207 posts

60 months

Wednesday 11th May
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SirCarsAllot said:
Ferruccio said:
SirCarsAllot said:
Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00
They only made about 4,000 of them.
2000 in europe? I’d say only 40-50 are currently for sale in europe.. (inc. uk)


Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 12:03
If you are only looking for lp640 then half that number again.

y700suf

36 posts

56 months

Wednesday 11th May
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SirCarsAllot said:
I tend to agree, personally i’m not bothered as long as the servicing checks out and can be validated and the BIG service items have been carried out.

Harder re-sale because of this foreign history has me a little concerned though, this particular model at the dealers has been hanging around for quite a while and its most likely because of this, as the condition of the car seems pretty good tbh.

Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

I’m not sure going with a car just because theres nothing else that turns me on, is the right thing to do! the car i’m looking at i like, but the colour isnt first choice (silver) but there is a wrapping possibility, not sure..

When i was at VVS i saw a Huracan Performante and it really struck me, i’d never seen one up close and i thought it was pretty cool tbh.

Maybe a Hracan as an interim Lambo fix until the right Murci comes along?

I have a track car already but i could do some track work with this to, anyone run or have run both? Never had a V10, so this would be another box ticked…


Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00
I ended up changing course from Murci to Perf so can empathise.

Having said that, I have a Gallardo too so was getting a ‘modern’ Lambo fix with the Perf given the Gallardo is from roughly the same era as the Murci.

I think the Perf is one of the best looking Lambos this side of the century. It is also much more useable than a Murci could ever be even if you’re only looking to do 2K miles p.a. Only downside is it has less dimensions to its personality than the older Lambos have.

The Perf would make a great ‘bridge’ Lambo until you find a Murci worth buying. Only challenge is values have gone up dramatically just in the last few months so you may end up paying for a costly exit.

SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Thursday 12th May
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y700suf said:
SirCarsAllot said:
I tend to agree, personally i’m not bothered as long as the servicing checks out and can be validated and the BIG service items have been carried out.

Harder re-sale because of this foreign history has me a little concerned though, this particular model at the dealers has been hanging around for quite a while and its most likely because of this, as the condition of the car seems pretty good tbh.

Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

I’m not sure going with a car just because theres nothing else that turns me on, is the right thing to do! the car i’m looking at i like, but the colour isnt first choice (silver) but there is a wrapping possibility, not sure..

When i was at VVS i saw a Huracan Performante and it really struck me, i’d never seen one up close and i thought it was pretty cool tbh.

Maybe a Hracan as an interim Lambo fix until the right Murci comes along?

I have a track car already but i could do some track work with this to, anyone run or have run both? Never had a V10, so this would be another box ticked…


Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00
I ended up changing course from Murci to Perf so can empathise.

Having said that, I have a Gallardo too so was getting a ‘modern’ Lambo fix with the Perf given the Gallardo is from roughly the same era as the Murci.

I think the Perf is one of the best looking Lambos this side of the century. It is also much more useable than a Murci could ever be even if you’re only looking to do 2K miles p.a. Only downside is it has less dimensions to its personality than the older Lambos have.

The Perf would make a great ‘bridge’ Lambo until you find a Murci worth buying. Only challenge is values have gone up dramatically just in the last few months so you may end up paying for a costly exit.
Interesting, thanks.

Trouble is, I’m not buying into the Lambo for performance pur sae as i already have a road car / track car that is far quicker than the murci and indeed the Perf, so with the Perf being mainly about performance it may well be lost on me, agreed it looks stunning but that dimension alone is a harder ‘sit’ with vs a classic lambo, paying through the nose for it with that one dimension in mind, might make it an even harder relationship.

I know you still get incredible performance (not tested, a 6:50 ring time cant be argued with tho) so might be worth trying one to see how it behaves as a road car, i might be surprised..

Thanks for sharing your experience, i was also thinking Gallardo SL which i also like.. might not stand the risk of spoiling the prospective Murci ownership to biggrin

The Murci at VVS i’m interested in but yet to verify its service history, colour i’m not enamoured with but i’m not averse to an oem(ish) colour wrap, saw this colour in the car park on a Peugeot yesterday and thought it would look stunning on the murci.




Edited by SirCarsAllot on Thursday 12th May 11:16

Tobermory

400 posts

6 months

Friday 13th May
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I’m intrigued Sir, what is your track car?

(My guess goes for a Radical, that would annihilate most road legal cars I think.)

SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Friday 13th May
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Tobermory said:
I’m intrigued Sir, what is your track car?

(My guess goes for a Radical, that would annihilate most road legal cars I think.)
Stage 3 gtr pro on cup2r.

Losing the will with the Murcielago search tbh, performante i will not pay list on a 4 year old car!

LP700 i had a go in and quite like it vs the svj, bigger choice for sale with the av, so i’ll see what’s about..

SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Saturday 14th May
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Can i get some thoughts on this car?

https://leistungauto.co.uk/product/lamborghini-mur...

Colour i love, uk car and pretty good history with valves done at 19k, 3 owners.


Ferruccio

1,746 posts

96 months

Saturday 14th May
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If it was me, I’d just get it inspected by someone who works on these cars.

I’ve never really understood the value that people attach to service stamps from a long time ago.
What matters is what the car might need now; and then the rest is just luck.

lambo666

364 posts

95 months

Saturday 14th May
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Absolutely what he just said.

SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Saturday 14th May
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People attach importance to it as its relevant to the possibilities of what might need doing to it today, valves for instance.

It was last serviced in 2021 with an increase of 2k from the mileage listed

Of course current condition is important, as said, any car i buy will be independently inspected.

Patrick-Peter

207 posts

60 months

Sunday 15th May
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Ferruccio said:
If it was me, I’d just get it inspected by someone who works on these cars.

I’ve never really understood the value that people attach to service stamps from a long time ago.
What matters is what the car might need now; and then the rest is just luck.
i agree with this. i have had my murci maintained with the same indie every year for 6 years now and knows the car inside out and yet potential buyers become nervous over a few missed service/invoices 15 years ago and think its going to become a basket case. Spent 40k servicing and maintaining my murci in my 6 year ownership.
You just gotta find the one that is your colour/specced and wet your finger and stick in the air and go for it.

SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Sunday 15th May
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I think the two can co-exist, have a complete service history, get it checked and then look after it as you see fit, doesnt matter how you wrap it, its better to have both.

Not saying theres anything wrong with having your incomplete history pur sae, its just not as good as having a complete detailed history, obviously, if one has the choice smile

Ferruccio

1,746 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th May
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There’s just this huge self interest in franchised dealers pushing the full service history agenda - look at what the actually do on most of these……….

ThePrincipal

89 posts

129 months

Sunday 15th May
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SirCarsAllot said:
Can i get some thoughts on this car?

https://leistungauto.co.uk/product/lamborghini-mur...

Colour i love, uk car and pretty good history with valves done at 19k, 3 owners.



SirCarsAllot

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50 posts

1 month

Monday 16th May
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ThePrincipal said:
eek thanks, be interesting to see if it shows up with an hpi…

I hear what you’re saying Ferrucio, i get it, ive done a lot of spanner work in my time and enjoy it, the guy who serviced his own Murci i total respect, ive just built a 10 car garage for myself which ive left room for a workshop (want to build a GT40) to carry out work, but! if you want ensure an easier time selling on at a later date, then its necessary to appeal to a wider audience, i know as well as you do that regular use, how its used & how it drives & inspects today, is just as (if not more) important for your own ownership experience.

I’ve bought 100s of cars in my time and have inspected many myself and later (as the cars became more valuable) just have an independent mobile inspection or workshop ppi, this has ‘for me’ always resulted in good ownership experiences & very low losses when moving them on, so i will still use my methods at this stage of the game.

The point in being on here is for the exact reason above, Lamborghini is (it appears) a very small world and many cars have known history and many barge poles..

I’d love to rage against the machine but alas..

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Monday 16th May 06:32

KevF

1,924 posts

175 months

Monday 16th May
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ThePrincipal said:
OOF....

catfood12

1,203 posts

119 months

Monday 16th May
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OP, the last one in your original post is the JLO car. Even has it's own Instagram page;

https://www.instagram.com/lj05jlo.lambo/


I have the other 05 Balloon White E-gear.



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SirCarsAllot

Original Poster:

50 posts

1 month

Yesterday (15:15)
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Some urgent input please guys

Alancio Argos

Is this how it looks in real life, ive never seen the color in person and i’m getting conflicting videos, some show it quite red and i’m not a big fan of red, advert pic shows this:


sandysinclair

265 posts

184 months

Yesterday (18:14)
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OK the Argos has a much heavier red bias than that picture , the classic lambo orange if there is such a thing is the Arancio Borialis for the AV . That photo is not representative of the classic orange. Just in my opinion .

andrew

9,502 posts

169 months

Yesterday (18:39)
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SirCarsAllot said:
Some urgent input please guys

Alancio Argos

Is this how it looks in real life, ive never seen the color in person and i’m getting conflicting videos, some show it quite red and i’m not a big fan of red, advert pic shows this:

imho "argos orange" looks, for want of a better term, "washed out"
it looks like a cross between red and a poor imitation of arancio borealis

SirCarsAllot

Original Poster:

50 posts

1 month

Yesterday (18:43)
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andrew said:
SirCarsAllot said:
Some urgent input please guys

Alancio Argos

Is this how it looks in real life, ive never seen the color in person and i’m getting conflicting videos, some show it quite red and i’m not a big fan of red, advert pic shows this:

imho "argos orange" looks, for want of a better term, "washed out"
it looks like a cross between red and a poor imitation of arancio borealis
Like a desaturated photo of orange?