Countach

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LAM8080

27 posts

23 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
Thank you and the Miura looks an absolute dream. I particularly like what looks like the original leather seats. The wheel isn't original. The paintwork looks good in the video. Possibly a negative is that its RHD as LHD could widen its market. Where are you in the country?
We have the proper steering wheel, so that can be added. The paintwork is decent except for one area on the drivers side that looks to have bubbled in one spot but the rest is pretty good from what i've seen.

It was actually one of the cars that got converted, it started as a LHD and was owned by the son of Drummonds bank. It was used to smuggle some counterfeit cash by all accounts. It was then owned by Alastair Laurie we believe who raced and built bikes and we think it may have been him that converted it to RHD. We're in Yorkshire

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
We have the proper steering wheel, so that can be added. The paintwork is decent except for one area on the drivers side that looks to have bubbled in one spot but the rest is pretty good from what i've seen.

It was actually one of the cars that got converted, it started as a LHD and was owned by the son of Drummonds bank. It was used to smuggle some counterfeit cash by all accounts. It was then owned by Alastair Laurie we believe who raced and built bikes and we think it may have been him that converted it to RHD. We're in Yorkshire
Sounds like some interesting history there and also that it was originally LHD.

yzr500

204 posts

103 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Alaster Laurie is that the guy from Scotland who built rob north triumphs and displayed them at the IOM during the TT in the seventies?

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Fessia fancier said:
LAM8080 said:
Thank you, interesting to hear that.
I guess you already know this but from my research gleaned by looking over a year or more, the hierarchy in terms of price is 400, then S1 400S then QV/S2 400S, it is hard to say where they sit but perhaps S2 above QV. 400S 1 and 2 are lowbody cars then 5000 and 400S3 perhaps on a par.
Injected cars are considered less desirable than carb cars.
The above has a big caveat in that very small numbers of cars are available so it is hard to be precise about prices due to low supply and low demand.
Condition is also really important and your car has a very appealing low mileage and if the condition matches that will be a huge plus. There are very few cars with that low mileage and if you find the right buyer you can expect a top price. There have been some strong prices in the US and LHD is a wider market and the pound is weak these days.
Depending on usage it might require some recommissioning which is a factor. My guess is slightly south of rat rod’s but that is not to say my view is any better than his. It all depends on finding the right buyer, which might take some time even in the present market where it seems demand is relatively strong.
The colour is fab but then I would say that!l
Yup - US prices are very strong at the moment, I’d sell it there.
Bring a trailer seems to get strong results but I’d talk to Joe Sackey as a start.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
LAM8080 said:
It's us selling for my father-in-law who passed away last month unfortunately, so looking to see a rough price so we know we are selling for roughly the right amount.
The number plate is valuable too but if its part of the cars history then should be kept with it but valued in.
You could ask a company like Furlonger to sell it for you on an agreed commission basis. They have just sold a QV recently.
Or you could get it recommisioned and sold at one of the international auction houses.

Someone mentioned that there is also a Miura, that would be interesting to see too.

Your father-in-law had very good taste in cars.
The Furlonger car was RHD. They had it up at £500k but no idea what they got.
The LHD market isn’t in the U.K.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
Jonny TVR said:
The number plate is valuable too but if its part of the cars history then should be kept with it but valued in.
You could ask a company like Furlonger to sell it for you on an agreed commission basis. They have just sold a QV recently.
Or you could get it recommisioned and sold at one of the international auction houses.

Someone mentioned that there is also a Miura, that would be interesting to see too.

Your father-in-law had very good taste in cars.
I work in sales, so have been contacting some companies/individuals that I know may be interested or may have contacts. It's weird that the Miura has less interest than the Countach so far, but early days. It has a quality history!!!

I posted a thread in the Lamborghini Classics area yesterday with a video of both the cars, so you can see it in there. It's a lovely looking car.


He did, he also has a Corvette Stingray ZR2. That is my favourite.
Speak to Simon Kidston about the Miura.

Fessia fancier

1,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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rat rod said:
Right model and colour, quickest of the bunch with no 88 1/2 skirts best lookingas well.

Are you sure you and jonny TVR aren't related , that makes three Italian cars the same you both own

unless you have something else hidden away scratchchin .
Not related to Jonny TVR but he does have very fine taste in cars…..

I don’t have anything else old except my restored Beta HPE VX which I am looking to sell, and 308 glass road/race car.

Fessia fancier

1,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
I work in sales, so have been contacting some companies/individuals that I know may be interested or may have contacts. It's weird that the Miura has less interest than the Countach so far, but early days. It has a quality history!!!

I posted a thread in the Lamborghini Classics area yesterday with a video of both the cars, so you can see it in there. It's a lovely looking car.


He did, he also has a Corvette Stingray ZR2. That is my favourite.
I guess it also depends on how quickly you want to sell it and if you are trying to get all of the value. Auction fees are pretty high, I guess, though may be negotiable

LAM8080

27 posts

23 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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I've spoken to Kidstons, Joe Sackey and John Temarian and had some really interesting stuff back from them, so hopefully something can get sorted privately.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
We have the proper steering wheel, so that can be added. The paintwork is decent except for one area on the drivers side that looks to have bubbled in one spot but the rest is pretty good from what i've seen.

It was actually one of the cars that got converted, it started as a LHD and was owned by the son of Drummonds bank. It was used to smuggle some counterfeit cash by all accounts. It was then owned by Alastair Laurie we believe who raced and built bikes and we think it may have been him that converted it to RHD. We're in Yorkshire
Love some of the outrageous stories that go with Lamborghini's and some of their dubious owners,

Never a dull moment with them,

Could listen to Mike Pullens antidotes all day ,he really ought to write a book on them ,sure it would be a

best seller could even end up as a film .smokinbandit



Edited by rat rod on Wednesday 1st June 19:56

Auto810graphy

1,400 posts

92 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
I've spoken to Kidstons, Joe Sackey and John Temarian and had some really interesting stuff back from them, so hopefully something can get sorted privately.
If the car is leaving the country it’s advisable to retain the plate prior to any export paperwork as that alone is going to be worth £50k+

LAM8080

27 posts

23 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Auto810graphy said:
If the car is leaving the country it’s advisable to retain the plate prior to any export paperwork as that alone is going to be worth £50k+
Yeah, the plate will be getting sold separately. That's another minefield in trying to price. I think it will go to auction and i'll just try and promote it where I can.

Adam.

27,244 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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I wonder what a RHD to LHD conversion would cost vs premium for sale in US and very weak cable

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Mad now to reflect on the days exotics that were LHD were priced well below their RHD counterparts in the U.K.

LAM8080

27 posts

23 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Adam. said:
I wonder what a RHD to LHD conversion would cost vs premium for sale in US and very weak cable
From what we've been told the Miura has been a RHD much much longer than a LHD. I imagine it was done by Laurie, as he seems like a really good mechanic.

The Countach is still in original condition and only 6k on the odometer.

Adam.

27,244 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
From what we've been told the Miura has been a RHD much much longer than a LHD. I imagine it was done by Laurie, as he seems like a really good mechanic.

The Countach is still in original condition and only 6k on the odometer.
I wasn’t casting aspersions to the quality of the switch at all.
Just idly curious whether going back to original LHD and selling in a better market outweighed cost to convert.

LAM8080

27 posts

23 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Adam. said:
I wasn’t casting aspersions to the quality of the switch at all.
Just idly curious whether going back to original LHD and selling in a better market outweighed cost to convert.
No worries mate, I wouldn't have a clue on the quality anyway! haha

We've been told by a few people it may be worth converting back, but i'm not sure. If it was an SV then maybe not, but as an S i'm not sure it will matter too much.

RichHawkins

19 posts

99 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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LAM8080 said:
Could anyone advise on a rough price to expect to pay for this? Around 6000km on the odometer





Hey Lam8080
Give us a shout at Carrera Sport, we can discuss re-commissioning both cars and discuss selling them, i know Mike has converted cars from LHD to RHD and back again on a few occasions as well.

Regards

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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From today ... new clutch needed.


Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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An owner gave me a sound piece of advice years ago, that you need to use a Countach clutch like a switch - if you ever smell the clutch burning, it’s a very expensive smell!