No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

No meat on expenses - forced vegetarianism?

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PorkInsider

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5,877 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Not sure if we've had this yet - I couldn't see anything already posted, unless hidden away.

A company has banned employees from claiming expenses for meals which include meat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51529207

I don't think I'd be too pleased to be working for a company that did this. I'm not against eating non-meat meals, I do it quite often, but it seems to be a case of applying politics to company policy which is never good.

bad company

18,483 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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A bit like an employer requiring staff to attend church. A bloody cheek imo.

SamR380

725 posts

119 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I wasn't able to open that link but it looks like the company is WeWork?

I think this is at least as much a cynical attempt at saving themselves a bit of cash (by bouncing expense claims) as much as anything.

turbobloke

103,739 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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PorkInsider said:
Not sure if we've had this yet - I couldn't see anything already posted, unless hidden away.

A company has banned employees from claiming expenses for meals which include meat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51529207

I don't think I'd be too pleased to be working for a company that did this. I'm not against eating non-meat meals, I do it quite often, but it seems to be a case of applying politics to company policy which is never good.
An increasing number of companies like to promote themselves as wide awoke but they need to take care when following fashion.

https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2015/dec...

It's per calorie which excuse seekers think is a get-out, but it isn't given that they're talking about production impact not consumption.

Bill

52,472 posts

254 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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They voted for it...

Murph7355

37,648 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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PorkInsider said:
Not sure if we've had this yet - I couldn't see anything already posted, unless hidden away.

A company has banned employees from claiming expenses for meals which include meat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51529207

I don't think I'd be too pleased to be working for a company that did this. I'm not against eating non-meat meals, I do it quite often, but it seems to be a case of applying politics to company policy which is never good.
I suspect the sort of people who would want to work there won't mind. They'll reap what they sow.

Cue inventive food outlets giving tofu receipts for all and sundry. Reminds me of some time I spent in Hong Kong biggrin

turbobloke

103,739 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Bill said:
They voted for it...
Not surprising when they're wide awoke.

Eric Mc

121,770 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I think that could be legally challenged.

PorkInsider

Original Poster:

5,877 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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SamR380 said:
I wasn't able to open that link but it looks like the company is WeWork?

I think this is at least as much a cynical attempt at saving themselves a bit of cash (by bouncing expense claims) as much as anything.
It's a property company called igloo this time.

Google the owner 'Kate Marfleet', maybe, if the BBC links don't work.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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The headmistress at my son's school has been telling the kids that being vegetarian is healthier than meat eating. Not amused.

21TonyK

11,494 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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If they voted for it then so be it. No big deal, its only meals on expenses. Its irritating that some people think its their responsibility to save everyone else from themselves but that's about it.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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It was voted for by the employees and I think the type of person they want to employ will go for it

Whether that turns into good corporate results, or not, remains to be seen

This is the company https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0405746...

In it's last accounts it made £261k after tax on £4.5m turnover

Zetec-S

5,832 posts

92 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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In the article WeWork said:
WeWork cited research suggesting going vegetarian was "one of the biggest things an individual can do to reduce their personal environmental impact" and estimated its change would save 16.6 million gallons of water, 445.1 million pounds of CO2 emissions and 15,507,103 animals over five years.
That's a very specific number, I suspect plucked from someone's arse as a way of making them feel good about themselves. And it won't "save" 15m animals. They are bred to meet demand, if demand drops then suppliers will breed fewer.



turbobloke

103,739 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Zetec-S said:
In the article WeWork said:
WeWork cited research suggesting going vegetarian was "one of the biggest things an individual can do to reduce their personal environmental impact" and estimated its change would save 16.6 million gallons of water, 445.1 million pounds of CO2 emissions and 15,507,103 animals over five years.
That's a very specific number, I suspect plucked from someone's arse as a way of making them feel good about themselves. And it won't "save" 15m animals. They are bred to meet demand, if demand drops then suppliers will breed fewer.
With justification based on voodoo, that ^ (i.e. the nonsense you identified) is what you can expect!

By all means folks can go veggy if they don't want to eat animals, despite being an omnivore. Justification based on bunk isn't needed.

Zetec-S

5,832 posts

92 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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article said:
The idea was put to an internal vote and passed, with a few dissenters.
article said:
"We had some justifications as to why it was a good idea, mostly environmental. There were some reservations from staff, but most of those were based on them being unsure of the environmental impact."
Very vague, sounds like the usual type of minority who shout the loudest and force their opinion on others. I'd be interesting to know how many "a few dissenters" actually was. Plus how many others didn't speak up because their opinion didn't fit into the (forced) agenda.

poo at Paul's

14,116 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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How far can companies go with policies like this I wonder. If a company said they would only reimburse "meat" based meals, I suspect there would be lot's of reaction.
And what about taking it a step further and ONLY employing vegetarians....or vegans say, ie discrimination against omnivores? Is that allowed under law as it is not a race or religion?


WilliamWoollard

2,339 posts

192 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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janesmith1950 said:
The headmistress teacher at my son's school has been telling the kids that being vegetarian is healthier than meat eating. Not amused.
Sexist!

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
How far can companies go with policies like this I wonder. If a company said they would only reimburse "meat" based meals, I suspect there would be lot's of reaction.
I suppose the distinction is that, if you only reimburse meat meals, you're discriminating against vegetarians who 'can't' eat meat, whereas it would be very unusual for a meat eater to not want to or be able to eat non-meat products. In other words, the effect on one is not the same as the effect on the other.

standards

1,117 posts

217 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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WilliamWoollard said:
janesmith1950 said:
The headmistress teacher at my son's school has been telling the kids that being vegetarian is healthier than meat eating. Not amused.
Sexist!
True, but the uncorrected version gave me a clearer mental image...
wink

InitialDave

11,853 posts

118 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Bill said:
They voted for it...
The majority of a group voting in favour of something is in no way a good assessment of whether it is a stupid idea.