According to Harris the 570GT is the best sports series
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thecook101 said:
That looks superb - good man. Which options have you found to be must haves - which not so much?
The only option you really do need is the GT pack, this gives you front lift. IMHO the interior carbon pack too as it gives you larger paddles and replaces the black plastic on the centre interior panels. Otherwise each to their own. It even looks good in rental spec white. This means you can get a decent car for £162k or so.
garyhun said:
Streetrod, 2 years ago when I was looking at MSO Fistral Blue I was quoted £6000.
For MSO and a colour of your choice that seems very cheap. Lambo are asking for £15k for the matt orange finish on the Performante ?! WTF Not a fan of the matt finish either, seems just another fad that in a few years time will be history
RamboLambo said:
garyhun said:
Streetrod, 2 years ago when I was looking at MSO Fistral Blue I was quoted £6000.
For MSO and a colour of your choice that seems very cheap. Lambo are asking for £15k for the matt orange finish on the Performante ?! WTF Not a fan of the matt finish either, seems just another fad that in a few years time will be history
Edited to add: Yes I agree that McLaren seem very reasonable on paint costs. Not sure if that's just on the Sports series or across the range.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 14th August 13:27
WCZ said:
the fuel consumption is insane, how are they so economical?
Light weight and a very efficient engine. It's a real surprise bonus to ownership, having to stop less for fuel on this years Le Mans trip compared to the 19mpg Aston last year was really noticeable. That and being much more comfortable.The Surveyor said:
Light weight and a very efficient engine. It's a real surprise bonus to ownership, having to stop less for fuel on this years Le Mans trip compared to the 19mpg Aston last year was really noticeable. That and being much more comfortable.
It is remarkable that a car with those looks and performance can also be so frugal. garyhun said:
It is remarkable that a car with those looks and performance can also be so frugal.
I know, it should really be a factor when your talking about such an expensive performance car, but the added range is really noticeable. If you do a trip like Targarama is, having to stop less frequent for fuel makes route planning so much easier, therefore much more enjoyable.The Surveyor said:
garyhun said:
It is remarkable that a car with those looks and performance can also be so frugal.
I know, it should really be a factor when your talking about such an expensive performance car, but the added range is really noticeable. If you do a trip like Targarama is, having to stop less frequent for fuel makes route planning so much easier, therefore much more enjoyable.Edited to speel kimera korect like.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 14th August 15:41
garyhun said:
Keep on topic dear boy!
Edited to add: Yes I agree that McLaren seem very reasonable on paint costs. Not sure if that's just on the Sports series or across the range.
On the Super Sport a Special is about 2K, the Elite about 4 and MSO Defined (ie Fistral Blue) is 7750. Then you can have anything you want for about 10K upwards.Edited to add: Yes I agree that McLaren seem very reasonable on paint costs. Not sure if that's just on the Sports series or across the range.
Edited by garyhun on Monday 14th August 13:27
garyhun said:
Streetrod, 2 years ago when I was looking at MSO Fistral Blue I was quoted £6000.
Yep this is correct. Other optional colours are £3,750 or something like that. The paint quality is pretty good too. I decided to spend on this as it is the most visual and differentiating part of the car.Targarama said:
garyhun said:
Streetrod, 2 years ago when I was looking at MSO Fistral Blue I was quoted £6000.
Yep this is correct. Other optional colours are £3,750 or something like that. The paint quality is pretty good too. I decided to spend on this as it is the most visual and differentiating part of the car.I thought Fistral would look great on a Sports series but have to say the Cerulean Blue looks awesome.
This thread got me looking at the 570GT again, not least as I'm not getting a warm feeling about a second wave 991.2 GT3 allocation.
In looking in the for sale section there seem to be a number of low mileage or delivery mileage cars with independent dealers. I wondered why. I can see 5k cars being with independents once the first owner has had they fill and didn't want another McL so the car leaves the McL network. I don't quite see what drives delivery mileage cars to be at independents though. Is there anything odd going on?
In looking in the for sale section there seem to be a number of low mileage or delivery mileage cars with independent dealers. I wondered why. I can see 5k cars being with independents once the first owner has had they fill and didn't want another McL so the car leaves the McL network. I don't quite see what drives delivery mileage cars to be at independents though. Is there anything odd going on?
SFO said:
too much stock, not enough buyers? dealers selling cheap to trade?
That's what crossed my mind, but that's a desperate tactic I'd have thought. If an independent is selling a nearly new car at 155-160 list, they must have got it for 15k less than that. Surely the main dealer could have done better than that to the public. This doesn't help the pricing strategy of the McL brand. I thought those days of big discounts were behind them as they got their price architecture and discipline in order. Makes me think I could get a good deal on one!jimmyslr said:
SFO said:
too much stock, not enough buyers? dealers selling cheap to trade?
That's what crossed my mind, but that's a desperate tactic I'd have thought. If an independent is selling a nearly new car at 155-160 list, they must have got it for 15k less than that. Surely the main dealer could have done better than that to the public. This doesn't help the pricing strategy of the McL brand. I thought those days of big discounts were behind them as they got their price architecture and discipline in order. Makes me think I could get a good deal on one!garyhun said:
This is one thing that McLaren obviously need to take a lesson from Ferrari on. It's not about total production numbers as long as that number is always demand-1. Then, if they agree to always buy back into the dealer channel at best prices, you will protect prices of new and second hand vehicles.
Yes, Ferrari is the model. I guess one key measure of McL success is volumes and they've done well from a standing start on that measure. It has come at the price of depreciation vs list price when compared to other established marques. It's not awful by any means but it's well above Ferrari (I haven't got my calculator out on that one but feels like it) - just another cost of ownership to factor in. I'm not one who admires the overs market and cars as appreciating assets. I have a week off next week; perhaps a trip to Ascot is in order!
Have to say I really like the 570GT. It's interesting how this model has garnered so much praise and generated so many positive stories from owners. I went to Ascot and test drove one about 6 months ago. Thought it was great but the arrogance of the sales guy was enough to put me off any further interest. I don't expect any special treatment but as the owner of two Ferraris and a 911 I didn't expect to feel like I was taking up his clearly valuable time. Anyway - I digress.
My point is rather that I think the de-emphasis of the performance credentials of the GT has helped it tremendously. Lets face it, the performance limits of modern cars have now thoroughly surpassed those of the general supercar buying market. It's neither safe nor legal to take them anywhere near their limits on public roads and how many owners have the time or inclination to track their cars much? So we're faced with ever faster cars, diminishing 0-60 times, and quicker Nurburgring laps, which in reality we can't or won't ever access. It's just not as appealing anymore - outside of bragging rights..
So the GT is a breath of fresh air in the supercar market. It's a McLaren so we know it's fast and handles well, but what is boasted is that it's also comfortable, has some additional space, and if needed my mother could drive it. (sorry Mum). It won't have sand kicked in it's face by the next model released because it doesn't play that game. Lets face it, the 570S and the 650S are both staring down the barrel of a gun - the next one released will be better, in fact it's already done so. The GT however remains unaffected - it's still the best GT they make. And although the next GT may date this one, let's face it, an ageing grand tourer is a good thing - just go read any manufacturers back catalogue.
My point is rather that I think the de-emphasis of the performance credentials of the GT has helped it tremendously. Lets face it, the performance limits of modern cars have now thoroughly surpassed those of the general supercar buying market. It's neither safe nor legal to take them anywhere near their limits on public roads and how many owners have the time or inclination to track their cars much? So we're faced with ever faster cars, diminishing 0-60 times, and quicker Nurburgring laps, which in reality we can't or won't ever access. It's just not as appealing anymore - outside of bragging rights..
So the GT is a breath of fresh air in the supercar market. It's a McLaren so we know it's fast and handles well, but what is boasted is that it's also comfortable, has some additional space, and if needed my mother could drive it. (sorry Mum). It won't have sand kicked in it's face by the next model released because it doesn't play that game. Lets face it, the 570S and the 650S are both staring down the barrel of a gun - the next one released will be better, in fact it's already done so. The GT however remains unaffected - it's still the best GT they make. And although the next GT may date this one, let's face it, an ageing grand tourer is a good thing - just go read any manufacturers back catalogue.
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