720S Should I or shouldn't I?

720S Should I or shouldn't I?

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Beni997

390 posts

110 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I don't have a problem with it to be honest , the exchange rate has dropped significantly.

My main supplier buys from Germany and has just given me an exact 7% increase which I was expecting due to the exchange rate. The only thing is they never come in with a reduction when it goes in their favour.

TP321

1,475 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Turbo cab said:
The fact that this is such a new car and there is this level of availability only tells you that by spring they will be offering decent discounts and I think that its not unrealistic to see the same car around the £200 mark..
It seems this reality is gathering momentum...been saying it for a while now that £40k discounts will be available by spring once the initial order book is satisfied. The early adopters will get done over...again.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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garyhun said:
Is Ferrari upping the price any more a taking the piss exercise than McLaren not supporting prices by not being bothered about keeping cars within the dealer network?
Agree they should be supporting the used car proposition but that strategy is reliant on having a strong dealer network. Whilst they are desperately trying to expand and support increasing demand for their product these type of investments do not happen overnight.
Service capacity will become a further issue if they do not increase the number of dealers.

I don't think its McLaren taking the p155 but more the lack of dealer development strategy and growing pains of the brand which is one of the fastest growing brands out there.
hopefully we will see more quality dealers on board soon to support what is undoubtedly a fantastic product

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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RamboLambo said:
garyhun said:
Is Ferrari upping the price any more a taking the piss exercise than McLaren not supporting prices by not being bothered about keeping cars within the dealer network?
Agree they should be supporting the used car proposition but that strategy is reliant on having a strong dealer network. Whilst they are desperately trying to expand and support increasing demand for their product these type of investments do not happen overnight.
Service capacity will become a further issue if they do not increase the number of dealers.

I don't think its McLaren taking the p155 but more the lack of dealer development strategy and growing pains of the brand which is one of the fastest growing brands out there.
hopefully we will see more quality dealers on board soon to support what is undoubtedly a fantastic product
My point is that there's no point slagging off one side without being aware that perfection exists nowhere.


MDL111

6,895 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Well, why should Ferrari swallow the entire drop in sterling if they can sell their cars (relatively speaking) regardless of price .... from memory sterling dropped from sth like 1.36-1.40 to now sth like 1.12 post brexit


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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TP321 said:
garyhun said:
Is Ferrari upping the price any more a taking the piss exercise than McLaren not supporting prices by not being bothered about keeping cars within the dealer network?
Well said. Glad to see people waking up to this...
I'd still have a McLaren over a Ferrari though.

You see, unlike some on here I have a completely unbiased, open mind about all this. I do not think I've ever slagged off any side, I do not think I've even pointed fingers at one side at the expense of the other (unlike you and Rambo who appear blinkered in your love/hatred (delete as applicable) for one or other of the marques). I just 'get' McLaren and identify with them for whatever reason. At the same time I have no negative feeling towards Ferrari or any other brand, I just prefer McLaren.

At the end of the day you'll choose the car that just feels right. The one that puts a massive smile on your face. The one that makes you feel a million dollars. The one that makes you believe that anything is possible.

Sure, you'll probably consider the financials, but in most cases I doubt if it will make any difference to what your heart says, and at the end of the day that's what counts imo.

MDL111

6,895 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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garyhun said:
TP321 said:
garyhun said:
Is Ferrari upping the price any more a taking the piss exercise than McLaren not supporting prices by not being bothered about keeping cars within the dealer network?
Well said. Glad to see people waking up to this...
I'd still have a McLaren over a Ferrari though.

You see, unlike some on here I have a completely unbiased, open mind about all this. I do not think I've ever slagged off any side, I do not think I've even pointed fingers at one side at the expense of the other (unlike you and Rambo who appear blinkered in your love/hatred (delete as applicable) for one or other of the marques). I just 'get' McLaren and identify with them for whatever reason. At the same time I have no negative feeling towards Ferrari or any other brand, I just prefer McLaren.

At the end of the day you'll choose the car that just feels right. The one that puts a massive smile on your face. The one that makes you feel a million dollars. The one that makes you believe that anything is possible.

Sure, you'll probably consider the financials, but in most cases I doubt if it will make any difference to what your heart says, and at the end of the day that's what counts imo.
Well said - that's why all those new Turbo engined cars leave me a little cold. I know they are amazing and fast and superior, but somehow don't tug (is that a word?) my heartstrings like the older ones.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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MDL111 said:
garyhun said:
TP321 said:
garyhun said:
Is Ferrari upping the price any more a taking the piss exercise than McLaren not supporting prices by not being bothered about keeping cars within the dealer network?
Well said. Glad to see people waking up to this...
I'd still have a McLaren over a Ferrari though.

You see, unlike some on here I have a completely unbiased, open mind about all this. I do not think I've ever slagged off any side, I do not think I've even pointed fingers at one side at the expense of the other (unlike you and Rambo who appear blinkered in your love/hatred (delete as applicable) for one or other of the marques). I just 'get' McLaren and identify with them for whatever reason. At the same time I have no negative feeling towards Ferrari or any other brand, I just prefer McLaren.

At the end of the day you'll choose the car that just feels right. The one that puts a massive smile on your face. The one that makes you feel a million dollars. The one that makes you believe that anything is possible.

Sure, you'll probably consider the financials, but in most cases I doubt if it will make any difference to what your heart says, and at the end of the day that's what counts imo.
Well said - that's why all those new Turbo engined cars leave me a little cold. I know they are amazing and fast and superior, but somehow don't tug (is that a word?) my heartstrings like the older ones.
I should also have added "at the moment" to my comment "I just prefer McLaren" because, as we all know, the only constant is change! I'm still waiting for a new "Dino" from Ferrari, a little more compact, more simple maybe and lighter weight. That's the car for me smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 11th October 15:02

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

169 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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"At the moment" is relevant as I have no tie or loyalty as such to any of the brands. I have owned cars from all the major ones and I tend to buy what I feel is the best product for ME at that time.
My next purchases happen to be N/a Lambo's followed by another McLaren. Nothing from Ferrari currently tickles my fancy other than maybe a used 458 special when they return closer to list price.

Ferrari had always been my favourite as a boy, my first supercar was a Ferrari but at the moment I prefer the offerings from both Lambo and McLaren and for differing reasons.
Lambo's because they are N/a and wild
McLarens because they are leading edge technology
Ferrari sits in the middle as the "safe investment" which is not why I buy a car

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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MDL111 said:
Well, why should Ferrari swallow the entire drop in sterling if they can sell their cars (relatively speaking) regardless of price .... from memory sterling dropped from sth like 1.36-1.40 to now sth like 1.12 post brexit
Your point would be valid if this wasn't a global 7% price increase. The value of the pound or Brexit has nothing to do with this price increase.

MDL111

6,895 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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The Surveyor said:
MDL111 said:
Well, why should Ferrari swallow the entire drop in sterling if they can sell their cars (relatively speaking) regardless of price .... from memory sterling dropped from sth like 1.36-1.40 to now sth like 1.12 post brexit
Your point would be valid if this wasn't a global 7% price increase. The value of the pound or Brexit has nothing to do with this price increase.
Fair enough, then they just increased prices - if they can sell them, they should do it - publicly listed and all

bigweb

825 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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TGETV said:
I might make Youtube rubbish, but I'm still an owner/customer. An owner/customer with a reach of hundreds of thousands of people. Only takes a very very very small % of people to take on board what is said, to influence such a delicate market.
There is some element of sensationalising the title of a video/thumbnail - but I stand by my experience and what is on my channel.
I couldn't justify the extra £10 from extra views at the expense of publicly lying about a brand I actually like.

There's a reason brands are ploughing big budget into hitting Youtube/Instagram and paying influencers.
Even when I did my watch video with a watch that cost £2,000, it had circa 80,000 views, & within days Chrono24 dried up with that model. I since have had circa 25-30 messages/Snapchats/Tweets of people having bought the model I mentioned.
Credible influencers do influence, as much as that may irk you.
To be fair I did buy one of those watches within a week of the video. Not because it was specifically TGE giving the advice but just because he made some good points which led me to think about it.
I’m not in a position to buy a 720s but if I were a YouTuber could ‘influence’ my decision rather than make it for me.

TP321

1,475 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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bigweb said:
To be fair I did buy one of those watches within a week of the video. Not because it was specifically TGE giving the advice but just because he made some good points which led me to think about it.
I’m not in a position to buy a 720s but if I were a YouTuber could ‘influence’ my decision rather than make it for me.
Which watch was it?

bigweb

825 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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A first gen (ETA) Tudor Black Bay

Ferruccio

1,832 posts

118 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Another price reduction on the GVE car.

breadvan

1,985 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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garyhun said:
I'd still have a McLaren over a Ferrari though.

You see, unlike some on here I have a completely unbiased, open mind about all this. I do not think I've ever slagged off any side, I do not think I've even pointed fingers at one side at the expense of the other (unlike you and Rambo who appear blinkered in your love/hatred (delete as applicable) for one or other of the marques). I just 'get' McLaren and identify with them for whatever reason. At the same time I have no negative feeling towards Ferrari or any other brand, I just prefer McLaren.

At the end of the day you'll choose the car that just feels right. The one that puts a massive smile on your face. The one that makes you feel a million dollars. The one that makes you believe that anything is possible.

Sure, you'll probably consider the financials, but in most cases I doubt if it will make any difference to what your heart says, and at the end of the day that's what counts imo.
I was just like you....

Then I bought one, lost a shed load, won’t do that again whatever my heart says.

Please forgive me if I’m wrong but you sound like someone who hasn’t bought one yet?

isaldiri

18,416 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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breadvan said:
I was just like you....

Then I bought one, lost a shed load, won’t do that again whatever my heart says.
Curious, is that purely due to financial considerations?

breadvan

1,985 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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isaldiri said:
breadvan said:
I was just like you....

Then I bought one, lost a shed load, won’t do that again whatever my heart says.
Curious, is that purely due to financial considerations?
No, 1. Reliability. 2. Financial. 3. Lack of dealers.
Shame really because like Gary, I ‘get’ the brand but currently owning another McLaren sends shivers down my spine.

I still hope to be back when (if) McLaren starts listening to (past) owners.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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breadvan said:
I was just like you....

Then I bought one, lost a shed load, won’t do that again whatever my heart says.

Please forgive me if I’m wrong but you sound like someone who hasn’t bought one yet?
You are correct, I haven't. I ordered one but pulled out about 18 months ago due to a house purchase. I'm now lusting over a 570 Spider (although won't be in a position to purchase until next spring at earliest) but have to admit that, despite what I said earlier, if depreciation is too big a hit then that does put me off so I'll be keeping an eye on that over the next year or thereabouts.

TP321

1,475 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Ferruccio said:
Another price reduction on the GVE car.
What was the list price on this?

No matter how fast it is (and i have no doubt that it is), this will not save this ugly and unemotional car from savage depreciation..just doesn't cut it at this price point.