720S Should I or shouldn't I?

[TGETV]

DarthtaterM16 said:

Currently for sale at £280k if anyone wants it

lols

[WDISMYL]

@TGE TV

Are you able to shed some more light on the 720s with respect to potential reasons that caused you to mention cancelled orders,refunds etc?

[DarthtaterM16]

Honestly wouldn't blame him if he didn't bother after the abuse he got from a load of willy waving chumps the last time he gave a bit of ownership insight.

[isaldiri]

Streetrod said:

True, but still a pretty low spec example

If it's low specced then the fault lies with Mclaren who were the ones with the bright idea of the 3 launch editions. The delay in deliveries is imo the major problem given what Mclaren had tried to do. Given how limited the choice of options was and the dealers were basically telling people you have this spec and take it or leave it, the factory needed to get cars out on time for it not to have backfired. They didn't and surprise surprise people are now less than keen on getting a late car into the end of the year that isn't really even in the spec they might want.

[Streetrod]

WDISMYL said:

@TGE TV

Are you able to shed some more light on the 720s with respect to potential reasons that caused you to mention cancelled orders,refunds etc?

I have already asked that question and did not get an answer

[RamboLambo]

Streetrod said:

I have already asked that question and did not get an answer

Funny that. How long before he appears on the Lambo forum bigging up the Aventador S pre sale ?
Had 5 cars on order from Geneva and was hoping to flip them all for a profit but now he has got his fingers burnt wouldn't be surprised if he cancels a few himself

[br d]

Streetrod said:

WDISMYL said:

@TGE TV

Are you able to shed some more light on the 720s with respect to potential reasons that caused you to mention cancelled orders,refunds etc?

I have already asked that question and did not get an answer

TGE was never buying to own anyway so his reasons for moving it on wouldn't have any credibility.

This absurd situation with the "vloggers" opinions on these cars becoming key is farcical, let's wait until people who really want to own the cars have had a chance to rate them.
Frankly the way the big marques are falling into this nonsense is embarrassing.

I don't have any objection to people cornering this market, more power to them for finding a niche. But to actually judge cars like these on the word of somebody who drives it around London for a couple of weeks, heavily populated with Go-Pros and largely to assuage their ego and pimp their profile is vacuity incarnate.

[WDISMYL]

br d said:

Streetrod said:

WDISMYL said:

@TGE TV

Are you able to shed some more light on the 720s with respect to potential reasons that caused you to mention cancelled orders,refunds etc?

I have already asked that question and did not get an answer

TGE was never buying to own anyway so his reasons for moving it on wouldn't have any credibility.

This absurd situation with the "vloggers" opinions on these cars becoming key is farcical, let's wait until people who really want to own the cars have had a chance to rate them.
Frankly the way the big marques are falling into this nonsense is embarrassing.

I don't have any objection to people cornering this market, more power to them for finding a niche. But to actually judge cars like these on the word of somebody who drives it around London for a couple of weeks, heavily populated with Go-Pros and largely to assuage their ego and pimp their profile is vacuity incarnate.

You misunderstood my question directed at TGE. Since he is frequently in the market buying and selling he will certainly have a very good idea of the state of it! He made references to cancelled orders and even refunds which has nothing to do with his opinion on the car but gives a wider assessment of that market, assuming you believe him.

Personally in my moments of boredom in front of the screen all day I find his videos quite entertaining. I don’t think he takes any of it seriously and is clearly trolling a lot of people especially the other you tubers. (They don’t seem to have realised that yet though. )

With regards to whose opinion is revelant that in itself is a matter of opinion!

Journalists whose livelihoood is dependent on a good review and have the cars for a couple of laps around a track are equally suspect. Each iteration of a particular model is perfect..until the next one comes along, whereupon we finally get to hear the truth about the previous generation albeit 3 years too late!

Lots of righteous posturing on PistonHeads. They’re only cars.

[TP321]

So the moral of this story is that if you are interested in buying a 720s, just sit back and wait a few more months and many will be listed for sale at well below list price....just as I predicted many , many months ago..A leopard cannot change its spots!

[WDISMYL]

TP321 said:

So the moral of this story is that if you are interested in buying a 720s, just sit back and wait a few more months and many will be listed for sale at well below list price....just as I predicted many , many months ago..A leopard cannot change its spots!

I suspect it will only be because the market is becoming rather saturated at that price point rather than being brand specific.

Regular posters are more than well aware of how much you want the Mclaren brand to fail with your incessant, infantile posts. Yipper will be along soon too.

I note that there are several Aventador S for sale for 10% premiums that aren’t selling and even some adverts admitting that speccing is still available which suggests people are giving up their slots in that brand.

The market does appear to be taking a breather.

[Streetrod]

TP321 said:

So the moral of this story is that if you are interested in buying a 720s, just sit back and wait a few more months and many will be listed for sale at well below list price....just as I predicted many , many months ago..A leopard cannot change its spots!

Good grief are you back again

If you would care to do a little research would find that only two cars appear to be for sale on the second-hand market at the moment and one of those is TGE's. Hardly the flood you were predicting considering how long cars have been available.

So please trot back to your little hole and let the grown ups talk

[Ferruccio]

RamboLambo said:

Funny that. How long before he appears on the Lambo forum bigging up the Aventador S pre sale ?
Had 5 cars on order from Geneva and was hoping to flip them all for a profit but now he has got his fingers burnt wouldn't be surprised if he cancels a few himself

Your position was that he lied about losing money.
Now you accept it.
An apology is in order surely?

[isaldiri]

can't believe I'm agreeing with TP321 but as far as prices are concerned, he's likely more accurate than others having a go at him. Per that youtube video, just ask a price from any dealer, Mclaren dealership or otherwise (and ime the official dealerships are far worse than others) to sell back a car. The bid is very likely nowhere.

[RamboLambo]

Ferruccio said:

Your position was that he lied about losing money.
Now you accept it.
An apology is in order surely?

Same car advertised at £30k premium now so how much do you think he actually lost. He was forced to sell due to imminent arrival of the AVS so he certainly didn't make the profit he was hoping for

[Beefmeister]

RamboLambo said:

Same car advertised at £30k premium now so how much do you think he actually lost. He was forced to sell due to imminent arrival of the AVS so he certainly didn't make the profit he was hoping for

It's not him selling it at £30k over. He sold it, at a loss of thousands, to a McLaren forum member. It is he who now has it at GVE.

Facts - they may not support your rambling but they are sort of important.

[RamboLambo]

Beefmeister said:

It's not him selling it at £30k over. He sold it, at a loss of thousands, to a McLaren forum member. It is he who now has it at GVE.

Facts - they may not support your rambling but they are sort of important.

I know he sold it and someone else is now advertising it but the fact is, it was a distressed "fire" sale that now someone is trying to turn to their advantage.
Neither is necessarily representative of a reasonable normal price on that car.

Just like an estate agent valuation you will get the 6 week quick sale value, market value and suggested advertising price.
IF he lost say £10k and its now £30k over, the middle ground is £10k OVER which does not sound unreasonable to me. I'm sure someone wanting a car quickly avoiding the waiting list could swallow that premium

[TGETV]

RamboLambo said:

I know he sold it and someone else is now advertising it but the fact is, it was a distressed "fire" sale that now someone is trying to turn to their advantage.
Neither is necessarily representative of a reasonable normal price on that car.

Just like an estate agent valuation you will get the 6 week quick sale value, market value and suggested advertising price.
IF he lost say £10k and its now £30k over, the middle ground is £10k OVER which does not sound unreasonable to me. I'm sure someone wanting a car quickly avoiding the waiting list could swallow that premium

Much jumps in logic. Such stupid.

[Mr Cod]

Come on chaps do we want another thread shut down?

[DashboardD]

To be fair, not really any of our business, and we've all made poor car buying decisions based on man maths etc. which haven't quite computed, never mind the lack of a crystal ball.
Surely, the luxury car market, at present, is as unprecedented and unpredictable as it has ever been...
However, @TGETV said only a month ago: "I've had no issues and personally wouldn't hesitate to buy another. Every brand has horror stories, just McLaren are new to the table so are fair game right now, couple that with rapid expansion and a few teething issues blown up online - voila.
Buy one, enjoy it"... so what's changed?

[RamboLambo]

TGETV said:

Much jumps in logic. Such stupid.

Says the man who lost £40 per mile
Must be the most expensive supercar experience in the world my little hamster